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I have Leeds 1.0 in black. In a bind I'm sure they would work and be better than many others around, but if you were buying them with intentions of wearing with a suit more often then that you should probably look at other models.

 

Black leeds is my tux shoe lol, and I could go may different routes. I love it.

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Question: now that the Leeds is on clearance, seriously considering purchasing likely the black. The reason I like it is because I view it as very formal which works for me because my workplace dress code is formal and my style is likewise.

However, I notice that you gents wear them with jeans and they do seem to have quite a thick welt. Granted that I have only seen brown/walnut versions with jeans/slacks, but that itself is part of the question.

Actual question: do you view the black /brown as formal wear to be worn with suit?

Sidepoint: Man! Those rush streets are red hot. Would love a pair of those for Sundays (can't justify it though: anyone seen lace up oxfords at the beach?)


Split reverse welt, open lacing, and double thick sole all make this a pretty casual shoe.

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Looking at all of the posts excited about new models and options got me thinking about my first pair of Allen Edmonds (and it doesn't hurt I was wearing them today):


My first are a pair of Byrons I bought off eBay for $80.  They were half a size too big, had been worn once before, and the model had been recently discontinued (back then, I didn't know they had been discontinued - I just knew they would likely be a good addition to my shoe rotation that at the time included two pairs of made in India Florsheim Imperials I had purchased during a Mens Wearhouse buy-one-get-one sale and pair of Mezlans I had been given as a present during high school).  

They are still going strong (this picture was after getting surprised by a thunderstorm) and are a regular part of my rotation of about 20 other pairs of AE's.

I thought a topic like this might be fun and allow people to show their appreciation for the brand by going back to the pair that got them started: what was your first (AE pair of shoes)?

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I thought a topic like this might be fun and allow people to show their appreciation for the brand by going back to the pair that got them started: what was your first (AE pair of shoes)?

Awesome idea. My first foray into Allen Edmonds was two discontinued pairs from the AE line, purchased for $80 each during a February, 2014 sale.

Chili Provo, black New Haven:






Total gateway shoes. I returned to the store a week later for a pair of bourbon Strands, and returned again the next week to order my first shell shoes. The two shoes above still come in handy whenever the weather demands a rubber sole.
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After more than a year of hard use, including being caught in multiple storms that were more like flash floods, I decided to try and condition my Kenwood loafers. I used Saphir Reno'mat, which hammered out a lot of the unsightly water spots and evened out the overall color, followed by two light coats of Renovateur.

The Renovateur brought out a nice gloss after brushing, and I should have stopped there. Instead, I overdid it and added a coat of AE neutral polish and now the loafers are stupid shiny:


I couldn't quite capture the bling, but you can kind of see it. They looked better with a more muted appearance.

Either way, I love this super-comfortable loafer and mine are ready for another year of casual destruction. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

I hope everyone's week is going well, as always.

Thanks for sharing. I've been looking up info on these products and considering purchasing some. This convinced me.
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Black leeds is my tux shoe lol, and I could go may different routes. I love it.

Thanks! Thats good to hear.

In our office a really formal outfit would draw weird looks smile.gif Thats why you only see me show my shoes with Jeans. They're nice, deep blue jeans and I use them for garden work once they wash out in places. I don't like the light blue that AE uses on their site for showing look with jeans at all. Even my black Brax are actually jeans fabric biggrin.gif

If Derby lacing is too casual I'll never ever be formal, as I just never fit into Oxfords period. I'd have to go totally bespoke for that I guess ($$$, definitely not).
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The misaligned eyelets is pretty common for AE. But not limited to just them. For 1sts it shouldn't be there. But pretty par for 2nds. There is a saw tooth lacing patter that might be able to pull it up some. I've some MTO Natural cordovan Leeds to do the same thing. Left shoe also. But I think its the left flap that is lower. 

Only pic I could find at the moment. But it shows it pretty well. Its lessened a bit over time.  


I switched to different lacing as the right foot was being crushed from the top with the nice lacing. Its actually much less visible now, just like you suggested. Even though they're 1sts I don't want to send them back, as they're gone from clearance now (only black left and I got brown only because walnut was gone after I had to send my first ones back for size)

Thanks!
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Even though I was measured for fit at an AE store by the Manager, and the fit is pretty darn good... my 8e strand and pa still have above average creasing...

 

http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/10/mythbuster-part-1-leather-creasing-means-something-is-wrong.html

 

this article lessened my worries big time.

 

as long as i take care of these shoes, my above average creases hopefully will not turn into tearing.

 

for the 65 last, there's just a bit more space between the top of my foot and the inside lining so the leather is able to flex more with each step I take.

 

My shoes look like they've developed patina already lol

 

 

 

The store manager I made my huge purchase with sent me a handwritten thank you note.. it's an allen edmonds branded thank you card so I'm assuming this is common?


Edited by HealthActuary - 7/29/15 at 6:07pm
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The Walnut Strands popped my cherry. Though I had replaced these with a different size since my feet grew in the last year, I still keep the pictures, for old times sake.

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Originally Posted by HealthActuary View Post
 

Even though I was measured for fit at an AE store by the Manager, and the fit is pretty darn good... my 8e strand and pa still have above average creasing...

 

http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/10/mythbuster-part-1-leather-creasing-means-something-is-wrong.html

 

this article lessened my worries big time.

 

as long as i take care of these shoes, my above average creases hopefully will not turn into tearing.

 

for the 65 last, there's just a bit more space between the top of my foot and the inside lining so the leather is able to flex more with each step I take.

 

My shoes look like they've developed patina already lol

 

 

 

The store manager I made my huge purchase with sent me a handwritten thank you note.. it's an allen edmonds branded thank you card so I'm assuming this is common?

I wouldn't worry about the creasing - all leather shoes crease.  

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Thank you to all who replied regarding the degree of formality or otherwise of the Leeds.

If most people view something as informal, then that's what it really is even if I'd like to convince myself otherwise. And I do see that a clunky welt and double sole does make it less formal, so will sadly have to wait a little longer for my next purchase.

I'm still willing to get a derby as a formal shoe though, since I simply cannot see the intuition behind derbies being inherently informal, and there do seem to be two opinions on this. What do you guys ike for that? Personally, the Delray has always appealed to me. Are there any formal derby captoes, for example?
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Thank you to all who replied regarding the degree of formality or otherwise of the Leeds.

If most people view something as informal, then that's what it really is even if I'd like to convince myself otherwise. And I do see that a clunky welt and double sole does make it less formal, so will sadly have to wait a little longer for my next purchase.

I'm still willing to get a derby as a formal shoe though, since I simply cannot see the intuition behind derbies being inherently informal, and there do seem to be two opinions on this. What do you guys ike for that? Personally, the Delray has always appealed to me. Are there any formal derby captoes, for example?
You could try the Lexington in black or dark brown.
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Originally Posted by Levi1 View Post

Thank you to all who replied regarding the degree of formality or otherwise of the Leeds.

If most people view something as informal, then that's what it really is even if I'd like to convince myself otherwise. And I do see that a clunky welt and double sole does make it less formal, so will sadly have to wait a little longer for my next purchase.

I'm still willing to get a derby as a formal shoe though, since I simply cannot see the intuition behind derbies being inherently informal, and there do seem to be two opinions on this. What do you guys ike for that? Personally, the Delray has always appealed to me. Are there any formal derby captoes, for example?

The Delray was my second pair of AEs and still one I reach for most often in my rotation. I find them versatile enough to dress down with khakis or up with suits. Now, to qualify the suit comment, I'm in biotech and live in San Diego so I have a lot more latitude there than bankers and lawyers on the east coast.

As for the inherent formality, look at pictures of a black Park Avenue and a black Lexington. They're basically identical except for the lacing style. Historically, the oxford style is considered more formal and I think most people would agree with that if asked to choose the more formal style. That said, lacing style is only one component of a shoe. The aforementioned black Lexington is obviously more formal than a Strandmok with distressed leather, contrasting sole/welt color, etc. If you want a blucher specifically for suits, look for things like flat (versus split reverse) welt, sing (versus double) sole, blind (versus visible) eyelets and minimal/refined brogueing. Examples would include styles like Flatiron, Larchmont or McGregor.
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I ordered a pair of Daltons from the Shoe Bank back when they were ~$225. There was definite heel slipping and that's the thing I worry about most during try on. Fortunately I stalled on deciding to return them and in the meantime noticed a pair of Portlands for $100 less. They arrived today and procrastination definitely paid off in this case. No heel slippage and a better fit in the toe box to boot. In some ways I prefer the aesthetic of the Dalton but the Portlands will be more flexible in my rotation and the combination tap sole will be appreciated on my trips to Seattle. The only flaw I see is some streaking in the burnishing (last pic) but that won't be very visible and will work out over time.
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Let me throw a couple of thoughts into this discussion about formal versus informal. My experience that the vast majority of people wearing suits just throw anything in their feet as a "dress shoe." There are lots of cheap glued shoes with rubber soles at the bottom of suit slacks. While the readers of this forum certainly know finer footwear, the average person will never notice an Oxford versus a derby and make a decision about the level of formality.

Second, there are some people who use a list of criteria to determine the "formal" shoe and this places shoes that do not meet each criteria onto some scale of "informal." My experience is most of these criteria are based on "Sleekness." Oxfords are sleeker in appearance than derbys. Double oak soles are less sleek than a single oak. Somehow this applies to brogue as the plain cap toe is sleeker than the brogue covered shoe. I was told that I was mistaken that brogue patterns and mutliple layers of a wingtip was less fancy thank a plain cap toe.

This information was particularly frustrating to people like me who have yet to find an Oxford design that fits our feet. I certainly cannot justify a bespoke Oxford just to have a shoe that I can wear with a suit. I, and some others like me, have grown content with a fine leather AE derby shoe with a leather sole with our suits. Sometimes plain; sometimes with brogue. 95% or more of the people do not give a second thought to these "dress shoes." With a good polish, nice shine, proper edge coating, these will be just fine with a suit. Just my opinion based on observation. "Your mileage may vary."
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