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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post
 


Surprising, as the retail stores don't usually carry a lot of double E widths.


I have an AE store 2 miles down the road and have purchased enough where they had no problem ordering in the sizes i wanted to try. Some I've purchased, brought home and tried on carpet for a week even for break in as I thought they were close, but still to narrow. Others too long and wide. Some i bought on eBay and wore a few times with suits, etc.

 

I've tried the Park Ave and Lexingtons, so it's not just the Bals.

 

Anyway, if anyone has other suggested lasts, i do like AE a lot and would gladly try others if I thought they would fit.

 

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by SimplyStylin View Post
 


Yup, that's what I said :)

 

Looking for alternative lasts, thanks!

 

If you have wide toes, 108 and 97 might not be good choices. I'd suggest the 201 or 73.

 

One other thing: a lot of folks tend to buy shoes that are too big because they are a little snug at first. If you found a size in the 65 where the fit is a bit snug (in the instep or waist), you will probably break it in. If it's snug in the toes it won't break in. 

 

I'm not really sure what you're looking for - you've clearly tried on a bunch of shoes already. Why not go back to the store and try some other lasts or styles? Most of AE's offerings are on the 65. If that really doesn't work for you, you will likely not find a lot of options.

post #61923 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post

I was recently told by a store manager that AE has really cut back on the number of shoes held by stores, especially odd widths. That way there is less money tied up in slow moving inventory. I had walked in with a list of five shoes I wanted to try in 10.5E, regardless of color, and they only had 1 of them.

I told him one of aE's advantages was odd widths but that advantage is deminished if they aren't in the stores to try on. He agreed.

If I have to guess on the fit I'm more likely to order another Carmina.

 

I've basically had to order in every pair of 10.5E, only got to leave the store one time with the purchase in hand. It was a pair of black Leeds a while ago. They usually have something in the same size and last to try though, but not always.

post #61924 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post
 

 

If you have wide toes, 108 and 97 might not be good choices. I'd suggest the 201 or 73.

 

One other thing: a lot of folks tend to buy shoes that are too big because they are a little snug at first. If you found a size in the 65 where the fit is a bit snug (in the instep or waist), you will probably break it in. If it's snug in the toes it won't break in. 

 

I'm not really sure what you're looking for - you've clearly tried on a bunch of shoes already. Why not go back to the store and try some other lasts or styles? Most of AE's offerings are on the 65. If that really doesn't work for you, you will likely not find a lot of options.

 

Thanks, that's just what I was asking for actually... some feedback from others that have had similar experiences or might have a suggestions. Appreciate the quick responses.

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Fair enough. If you're looking for some of the classic AE styles like the Fifth Ave and Park Ave, AE makes them on a different last (the 7 last) for Joseph A. Bank. They call them the Nathan and the Boardroom.

Great, I've read about this but wasn't sure which models to look out for. I may go and check them out later this week.

 

Thanks!

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Perfect. I want to pick up a walnut Strand but the only thing holding me back is the bowing I already experience on my Park Avenues...

Frankly I don't understand why this bowing issue which seems to be an AE specific issue doesn't make more people pause or even stop more often before purchasing an AE shoe.

Am I wrong in thinking that this is a manufacturing defect.? If it's any thing other than that I really would like to know. It. seems like it occurs fairly regularly. However even when someone doesn't get the best fit with someone else's shoes I don't see this issue occuring.

Am I wrong in thinking this happens mainly with AE shoes? I haven't seen this with any other shoes that I am aware of.

I consider a good number of their designs to be fairly nice at this price range and the materials they seem to use are decent for this price range. But this issue seems to be a bit much to put up with even for a shoe that is sold in such large numbers even at the lower price range for GYW RTW shoes.

I'm just curious. Can anybody tell me why this happens? Is it because AE doesn't leave their shoes on the Last for a long enough time as some have suggested? Also I'm curious why customers actually put up with a condition like this. I did conduct a search of this thread for bowing to see what I could come up with, but this comes up so often, unfortunately I wasn't able to find any good answers.
post #61927 of 70737
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I know this is the AE thread, but wanted to say that the 1k Mile & RW Moc Toe are both really good.  I feel like Nordstrom includes these on every sale, but if you don't own them, now's a good time.

BTW - how's your loafer search going smile.gif Did you try any of my suggestions.

Thanks for your recommendations. I am looking for a more or less formal penny loafer. So the only 2 that fall in this category are the Randolph and the Archer (spelling ?), with the latter not being offered in burgundy, if I remember correctly. I will try these out when I get some time.

Do the soles on the RW moc toe wear well? I destroy soles, and if it is anything like the gumlite soles, I will have to stay clear.
post #61928 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post
 

 

If you have wide toes, 108 and 97 might not be good choices. I'd suggest the 201 or 73.

 

One other thing: a lot of folks tend to buy shoes that are too big because they are a little snug at first. If you found a size in the 65 where the fit is a bit snug (in the instep or waist), you will probably break it in. If it's snug in the toes it won't break in. 

 

I'm not really sure what you're looking for - you've clearly tried on a bunch of shoes already. Why not go back to the store and try some other lasts or styles? Most of AE's offerings are on the 65. If that really doesn't work for you, you will likely not find a lot of options.

 

There is also 2 new lasts being introduced this fall. The 1942 and the 2043, with a new loafer, cap toe blucher, and "wholecut" balmoral with a medallion. The new independence line will also be built on the 201 last, so there's definitely going to be lots of new things to try come August or September. 

post #61929 of 70737
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post


Frankly I don't understand why this bowing issue which seems to be an AE specific issue doesn't make more people pause or even stop more often before purchasing an AE shoe.

Am I wrong in thinking that this is a manufacturing defect.? If it's any thing other than that I really would like to know. It. seems like it occurs fairly regularly. However even when someone doesn't get the best fit with someone else's shoes I don't see this issue occuring.

Am I wrong in thinking this happens mainly with AE shoes? I haven't seen this with any other shoes that I am aware of.

I consider a good number of their designs to be fairly nice at this price range and the materials they seem to use are decent for this price range. But this issue seems to be a bit much to put up with even for a shoe that is sold in such large numbers even at the lower price range for GYW RTW shoes.

I'm just curious. Can anybody tell me why this happens? Is it because AE doesn't leave their shoes on the Last for a long enough time as some have suggested? Also I'm curious why customers actually put up with a condition like this. I did conduct a search of this thread for bowing to see what I could come up with, but this comes up so often, unfortunately I wasn't able to find any good answers.

 

 

The primary reason for bowing on the topline, especially with 5 last shoes, is flat feet. It's an issue of the insole, especially in the back 1/3 of the shoe isn't wide enough to accommodate someones footprint, and the mass of the foot has to go somewhere. There is pressure applied to the lower section of the upper by the outside/inside of the foot, causing bowing that the foot/ankle doesn't have volume to fill. the 65 last is great, its also the narrowest last the AE makes. It isn't for everyone. There's lots of other last options that are able to deal with wider/flat feet much better. 

 

Hopefully this makes sense. Kind of hard to paint a word picture of this lol. 

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There is also 2 new lasts being introduced this fall. The 1942 and the 2043, with a new loafer, cap toe blucher, and "wholecut" balmoral with a medallion. The new independence line will also be built on the 201 last, so there's definitely going to be lots of new things to try come August or September. 


This is good news to hear, thanks again for the replies.

post #61931 of 70737
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Originally Posted by garland View Post


The primary reason for bowing on the topline, especially with 5 last shoes, is flat feet. It's an issue of the insole, especially in the back 1/3 of the shoe isn't wide enough to accommodate someones footprint, and the mass of the foot has to go somewhere. There is pressure applied to the lower section of the upper by the outside/inside of the foot, causing bowing that the foot/ankle doesn't have volume to fill. the 65 last is great, its also the narrowest last the AE makes. It isn't for everyone. There's lots of other last options that are able to deal with wider/flat feet much better. 

Hopefully this makes sense. Kind of hard to paint a word picture of this lol. 

This certainly makes sense based on your explanation. Seems odd though that I've read some comments from people stating they would have this issue but after returning a pair or two the second or third pair doesn't have this issue. It does really seem odd that this is the only shoemaker who has this issue. Sounds like a bad design, but in fact if it's because of what you said it may actually be a good thing for those who have narrow and not so flat feet.

Thanks for helping clear this up me.

Cheers,

Dan
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Daltons?

Those are sexy.  Did you get the nordstrom price match??
 
 
Thank you yes they are. I picked mine up from Amazon, looks to be similar pricing to Nordstrom. Want to add a darker boot to my rotation and notice Nordstrom has a to boot new york 'stallworth' and wolverine 1000 mile on good deals too...what do you guys reckon?

 

I own a pair of Stallworths in Cognac...the leather is thinner than AE and overall TBNY feels like a step down in quality from AE ($450 "retail" pricetag aside).  

-I have a pair if TBNY Brennans selling on eBay right now.  (15D)  Neither pair ever breaks through/into my AE rotation.

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FYI, the Maritime and Kirkwood are once again on sale for $125 in golden brown and navy (the two colors they are apparently not discontinuing).  I highly recommend grabbing a pair or three.

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Originally Posted by garland View Post

There is also 2 new lasts being introduced this fall. The 1942 and the 2043, with a new loafer, cap toe blucher, and "wholecut" balmoral with a medallion. The new independence line will also be built on the 201 last, so there's definitely going to be lots of new things to try come August or September. 

Can you confirm a shortwing blucher is still in the works for this fall?
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Originally Posted by SimplyStylin View Post
 

Hey guys.

 

I've unfortunately come to the conclusion that the 65 last just doesn't work for me after trying all sizes (I'm a 10.5E on the Brannok device... 10.5E is too narrow for me on the 65, 10EEE fits best on toe box but the rest of the shoe is too wide and look like clown shoes on me).

 

So I'm a '511 last' guy owning the Leeds, Daltons, & new Dundee 2.0 and really love them all.

 

I have discovered other brands that work for me, but I'm wondering if anyone else that has this problem found other lasts from AE that fit well for them? I looked at the Road Warriors, which fit fine, but they were very clunky in the toe box and i didn't think the quality was up there with the other styles.

 

Thanks!

 

This is where I ended up.  I own a few 65 last shoes, which I have broken in enough that they are comfortable, but consider them event shoes, NOT all day + shoes.

 

And have over 30 pairs of 511/511g lasted shoes/boots.

 

My preferences:

511

511g

678

234

201

 

Consider adding a Wilbert in CXL, (Golden Brown is on AE clearance) and Dark Brown is beautiful.

Recently added a pair of 234 lasted Addisons and dark brown 511 lasted Wilberts, both fit well.

 

@garland Do you know if these new lasts will include size 15?  Several recent added lasts do not. :(  

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