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I'm late to the party for the seconds sale. Most of the really good deals are gone (belts, Gobis, Daltons, etc are gone.) The Jeffersons for $197 is an incredible deal (and my favorite shoe). Get in fast.


Anyway, I have a pair a waxy gray McTavish wingtips. What do these match? Could I add some red polish to make them more like oxblood? (Can I even polish rough collection shoes?)

Some guy at work had the waxy grey mctavish on this week and I am not a fan. I'd be interested to see what polish of a different color would do but I'm not a fan of them just out of the box.
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Originally Posted by SVS View Post

I'm late to the party for the seconds sale. Most of the really good deals are gone (belts, Gobis, Daltons, etc are gone.) The Jeffersons for $197 is an incredible deal (and my favorite shoe). Get in fast.


Anyway, I have a pair a waxy gray McTavish wingtips. What do these match? Could I add some red polish to make them more like oxblood? (Can I even polish rough collection shoes?)
I have the smokey grey distressed and love them. Wear only with rougher denim, though.

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I bought a pair of Wilbert seconds recently in outland brown, and now have ordered a dark brown pair.  They are one of if not AE's top selling / most popular casuals.  

 

Of your 4 choices...

the 678 last Ashton and 511 last Wilbert are my preferences, as they are both slightly wider than the 65 last Black Hills and 108 last Clark Street.

 

If you have tried any of these lasts, the foot-shape differences are significant enough between these 4 shoes that fitment should be considered even before your visual preference imo.

 

That said, I think the Ashton would be the best choice with wool trousers of the 4.


This was a pretty informative post - agree with the significant variations among the lasts.  I own the Black Hills and love em, although bluchers on the 65 like this always feel just a touch too loose.  The Wilbert fit me ok but not as good - I like the elongated length of the 65 over the 511.  Don't rule out the San Marco - it's much better than the Norwich, trust me on that. 

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No pinky toe hurt at all. Very comfortable except the arch rise area. No, not many options on EE on Shoebank, will go and try in the store this weekend. Overall I hate to return the Black PA.. they look great and marginally better than the FA.


Have this same issue as well - smfdoc wrote up a really good summary I saw.  How painful is the arch area?  Does it actually bother you or you just don't like the way it looks?  Messing around with the width to get the gap to close will alter the fit significantly in other ways, just to let you know.

 

I could go into excruciating detail about all the lasts and about what worked for me but I won't unless you ask.  But I will say one thing - balmorals will not be your friends.  Bluchers will be far more forgiving in this regard.  You might be able to get away with closed lacing on things like the Rush Street with CXL, but with stiff calf leather like the 5th ave, they will be trouble.  Again, if you want me to go into detail, let me know...

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To go with YoungSweet's post, I will offer that of my ~15 pairs of AE shoes/boots (not including the several new pairs of boat shoes I've been going on and on about), 2 are firsts and the rest are seconds.  My firsts include a pair of brown Delrays I will be selling (since I already have brown Lasalles) and a pair of Shaker Heights I got on amazon for $160.  

 

Of all my seconds, the worst "defect" is a slightly askew toebox stitching on my tan RL Sandersons, but it doesn't stop me from wearing them all the time.  I find that with boots, the common seconds "defect" is usually poor clicking/slightly "wrinkled" leather along the medial aspect of the panel that covers your medial malleolus and above.  It's something that no one will ever see when you're wearing pants, unless maybe if you're sitting down, your pants ride up, and you turn your foot outwards to show someone.  So, basically a non-issue.  For the rest of my non-boot seconds, most of them I have tried and tried to find the defect and have failed.  I think on one pair of walnut shoes, there was a little bit of "fading" in the color around the throat of the shoe - and I added a bit of Cognac polish (AE doesn't sell it anymore, but it's closer to Walnut than the Walnut polish is) and fixed it forever.

 

I know others have had some not-so-great results with a few pairs of seconds (striping is a common problem with bourbon and maybe oxblood shoes) . . . maybe I am just much less picky or perceptive (although I'd like to think that, as a Dermatologist, I have a pretty good eye for detail).  Either way, chances are if you're someone who is "moving up" to AE/AE seconds, you're not the kind of person who will vehemently protest the QC and expect $1000 quality at $200 pricing.

 

Good luck!


I'll go a step further - of my 21 pairs of AEs, about half are firsts and half are seconds.  I have had an issue with one of the seconds, but, and I bullshit you not, almost every pair of firsts has had an issue - and I'm not talking about identifying a microscopic-sized melanoma with the naked eye types of issues, I'm talking with the construction/fit.  So I wouldn't worry about the seconds.

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Should I just avoid firsts altogether then since firsts and seconds seem to be nearly the same in quality and seconds are like upwards of $150 cheaper?

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I recently purchased a pair of Rogues through the shoe bank at $199 and was very pleased with the shoe. The left one is pictured. As many on the forum have stated, the AE is a great shoe at retail price, but the small issues that may make the shoe a second is really tolerable to make them such a good discount. Many of the forum members have numerous pairs of seconds that are perfectly acceptable. I would not hesitate to order it. The worst thing that can happen is that you return it with free shipping and they hit you with a $10 restock fee. Remember that a first Rogue is $385, and a second is $254. Right now it is $199, and a bargain.

 

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No one should ever say a dalton and long branch fit the same...cause they don't and that is a fact not an opinion and I don't care what shape the person's foot is. Long branch has more volume.

I have 8E in my walnut shell Daltons and they are perfect, even though I wear 8.5D in almost everything else, including my Long Branches (tan Dublin).

Hard to compare though because the Daltons are unlined shell with a flat welt and the long branch are lined dublin with a reverse welt.

Shell may be different. I should have clarified regular leather.
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Should I just avoid firsts altogether then since firsts and seconds seem to be nearly the same in quality and seconds are like upwards of $150 cheaper?

 

Depends on your sizing, rotation, (and how many exams you've passed...er, I mean, disposable income...). If you're in an awkward size, there might not be enough seconds in the styles you want. And for a shoe you'll want to look your best in you might want to go first quality (or look to other manufacturers). Sale pricing isn't too awful for firsts, as long as you can plan your purchases around a certain time of the year. But in general, yes, seconds are the way to go.

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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

@mreams99, you didn't happen to notice any in size 10.5 3e, did you? That store is not out if the way to the school where I teach. Too bad I won't be going in until September! Should've stopped in once or twice during the school year.

I will pop through there tomorrow (Sunday) with a camera and let you know what else I see...
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Have this same issue as well - smfdoc wrote up a really good summary I saw.  How painful is the arch area?  Does it actually bother you or you just don't like the way it looks?  Messing around with the width to get the gap to close will alter the fit significantly in other ways, just to let you know.

 

I could go into excruciating detail about all the lasts and about what worked for me but I won't unless you ask.  But I will say one thing - balmorals will not be your friends.  Bluchers will be far more forgiving in this regard.  You might be able to get away with closed lacing on things like the Rush Street with CXL, but with stiff calf leather like the 5th ave, they will be trouble.  Again, if you want me to go into detail, let me know...

 

Thanks... I'm going to the AE store and try out some lasts. I hate to know that balmoral will not be suited to my feet. I'm planning to try the 201- Rogue and lot of 108 lasts. If possible, you can suggest me some lasts for me to try it at the store today.

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Thanks... I'm going to the AE store and try out some lasts. I hate to know that balmoral will not be suited to my feet. I'm planning to try the 201- Rogue and lot of 108 lasts. If possible, you can suggest me some lasts for me to try it at the store today.


108 and 333 are good ones to check out.  222 is a toe crusher, at least for me.  Most people look at where their big toes are in order to see if a shoe fits, I find that making sure the pinky toes have room is important too.  Always be willing to try a wider size, even if that means you have to go down half a size in length.  

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Has anyone convinced them to ship seconds to Canada? Frustrating that you can't check out with a Canadian address.

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Has anyone convinced them to ship seconds to Canada? Frustrating that you can't check out with a Canadian address.

I am sure you can find someone to proxy for you from the US if you are sure of your size. Why do your want to convince a company to go against their stated policy?
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108 and 333 are good ones to check out.  222 is a toe crusher, at least for me.  Most people look at where their big toes are in order to see if a shoe fits, I find that making sure the pinky toes have room is important too.  Always be willing to try a wider size, even if that means you have to go down half a size in length.  


Thanks.. only 2 shoes I could try in EEE for my size. They had none in E or EE.  

PA and Mora 2.0. Mora is perfect and PA little loose around but SA suggested even EE will have that gap near the top. I don't think I could go 1 more size as already am half size down for E size.

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