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Do you recommend sizing down on the kirkwood?  I just ordered a kirkwood & maritime on a size 8eee since that's my size on all of my AE shoes.  I'm now wondering if I should have gotten a size 7.5eee.  The maritime is currently not in stock so I can still call AE to change the order.


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I found that they ran a bit large.  Keep in mind that the CXL will stretch!









 





Do you recommend sizing down on the kirkwood?  I just ordered a kirkwood & maritime on a size 8eee since that's my size on all of my AE shoes.  I'm now wondering if I should have gotten a size 7.5eee.  The maritime is currently not in stock so I can still call AE to change the order.



 





I tried on a 12D (most shoes) and 11.5D. Went with 11.5D.


Same situation for me, but backwards. 11D was a bit snug. Tried 12D which were loose. Went with smaller size which felt fine after a few wearings.

 



Didn't try an 11.5?
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Pesonally, I would go with the Bourbon Strand or Dark Chili Rogue - just my personal taste.

Chris

I agree, Bourbon, brown, Oxblood, or dark chili. Especially if you aren't even wearing a tie to these things. If the Grey is too light, you might be in walnut territory? Medium Grey looks great with these colors.
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I call bullshit on that $1,000 shoe nonsense. AE uses material which is vastly inferior to those other brands. If they set decent QC, without tweaking their clearly shitty operations they'd lose money. If they clean up their operations they'd come out money ahead for sure - they're currently a textbook case of anti-lean operations. This all assumes that their owners are in it for anything more than a pump and dump, which remains to be seen.

No. This is wrong. As has been discussed many times over on this site, AE makes substantial profit selling seconds and gives them the opportunity to sell far more shoes than they would be able to at the higher first quality prices. In effect, their seconds market allows them to introduce an "entry level" line, without having to pay for the expense of tooling, marketing, etc, etc, blah blah, blah...

 

Seriously, I swear we just had this conversation...

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. I was thinking that. I wanted something with a little design to it thats why I was looking at the Fith Avs or the Strands over the Park Aves. I really dig the strands but I see most people don't recomend them in black. I actually bought the Cliftons because Nordstrom had them on sale for 240.00 but after seeing the Fith Avenues online I really like the lacing on the latter much more then the Cliftons. So I'm thinking of returning and getting the Fith Aves....I'm still trying to decide also if my grey suit is too light for a brown shoe. I'd like my brown shoe to ve versatile enough to wear with jeans and a blazer too and in my opinion the Strands are too much. That's why I was thinking of Black Strands for the weddings then a more simple brown shoe to go with everything . I'm a mess and have like two days to decide which two pairs of shoes to buy!

 

I think you can pull off any of the colors with grey, even if a light grey. If you have a need for a classic solid dress shoe (sounds like you do) then I'd pick up a black cap toe. Then for your second pair, venture out into something that's in a brown tone and a little more casual. I am really liking the burnished chili lately, as I find it super versatile. I recently added rogue, franciscan and bleeckers in this color. Each of these can work, in a pinch, with jeans all the way up to sport coat/more casual suit with no tie. As suggested, the rogue might work better for you than the strand.

 

All in all, wear what ever makes you comfortable and happy...

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I agree, Bourbon, brown, Oxblood, or dark chili. Especially if you aren't even wearing a tie to these things. If the Grey is too light, you might be in walnut territory? Medium Grey looks great with these colors.

Agreed. I feel like my walnut bals only come out to play when I am wearing light grey.

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Oxblood with medium grey sounds perfect...Just remember  @Patrick30  oxeblood is a burnished finish so tread lightly with your care for them


Can you explain what you mean by this, thanks. I've been liking the burnished finish in the pictures online, is that finish in some way less durable or more prone to problems?

 

thanks

 

Well the mottled/depth of the finish is applied by a burnishing wheel...meaning that Oxeblood, Bourbon and Bob's Chili are not from the tannery in those colors...Oxeblood for example starts out as Merlot and AE created the darker color by running the leather on a burnishing wheel which adds the dark/black to it...

 

I am a big fan of the burnished colors and do not have a problem...that being said I am not one for mirror finish shines or really much waxing at all...A lot of folks like to treat their shoes and boots with a whole bunch of products like Renomat, Renevateur, waxes, pastes, conditioners, water proofers etc....which is all fine if you know what you are doing but someone new to it trying that stuff on burnished shoes will in fact strip the burnish from the shoe leaving the solid base color.

 

Personally...I will use some leather conditioner applied lightly and 24 hours later may use a neutral wax to add some protection...again applied very lightly and removed even more lightly...that is it...I have a few pairs of Bourbon going on 2 years old( i think) and I have not done anything else to them other than wipe down and brush

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I call bullshit on that $1,000 shoe nonsense. AE uses material which is vastly inferior to those other brands. If they set decent QC, without tweaking their clearly shitty operations they'd lose money. If they clean up their operations they'd come out money ahead for sure - they're currently a textbook case of anti-lean operations. This all assumes that their owners are in it for anything more than a pump and dump, which remains to be seen.

No. This is wrong. As has been discussed many times over on this site, AE makes substantial profit selling seconds and gives them the opportunity to sell far more shoes than they would be able to at the higher first quality prices. In effect, their seconds market allows them to introduce an "entry level" line, without having to pay for the expense of tooling, marketing, etc, etc, blah blah, blah...

 

Seriously, I swear we just had this conversation...

 

And to add...there are more AE "No Warranty" shoes sold through re-sellers on Ebay than most good shoe manufacturers sell in their regular line... I think AE has a good idea of what they are doing and making money doing it at this point.

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I'm trying to convince myself that I need a sleek pair of black shoes to make my wardrobe more versatile. Don't want to jump to Carmina yet as I have other financial obligations
Carmina is Cheaper than AE through AV Skoak.
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I think you can pull off any of the colors with grey, even if a light grey. If you have a need for a classic solid dress shoe (sounds like you do) then I'd pick up a black cap toe. Then for your second pair, venture out into something that's in a brown tone and a little more casual. I am really liking the burnished chili lately, as I find it super versatile. I recently added rogue, franciscan and bleeckers in this color. Each of these can work, in a pinch, with jeans all the way up to sport coat/more casual suit with no tie. As suggested, the rogue might work better for you than the strand.

All in all, wear what ever makes you comfortable and happy...
Thanks for the feedback! See everything I've read says " no" to the Walnut with medium/light grey. The charts all suggest a more "basic" brown. But I like your suggestion the Walnut Rogue is a very nice shoe in my opinion. I think I will get that for my Brown shoe. As for the Black, if you had to decide between the Clifton or the Fith Avenue which would you choose? Very similar except the lacing . I know I don't want the Park Avenue right now. Weddings are formal but also allow some style and freedom.
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No. This is wrong. As has been discussed many times over on this site, AE makes substantial profit selling seconds and gives them the opportunity to sell far more shoes than they would be able to at the higher first quality prices. In effect, their seconds market allows them to introduce an "entry level" line, without having to pay for the expense of tooling, marketing, etc, etc, blah blah, blah...

Seriously, I swear we just had this conversation...
Actually I think you guys convinced yourselves of this. I'm solidly in the camp that thinks doing things like proven market winners is probably better than making a bunch of crap quality rejects. Unless of course AE is aiming to become the GM of shoes.
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Now that I finally have my beloved Allen Edmonds Strands in walnut, I need a belt to match.

I'm in a creative field and never need to dress up for work, so I tend away from the corporate look and try to be more on the cool/hip side of things. Example: my brown belt is this one from John Varvatos:



I like the square buckle.

Against all advice to the contrary I wear my Strands with jeans (albeit dark-rinse ones), a white shirt, and a navy linen sportcoat.

And can I assume we agree that something like the below would be too top-to-toe matchy matchy?
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As for the Black, if you had to decide between the Clifton or the Fith Avenue which would you choose? 

I rarely wear black shoes, so this would be a very specific purchase: weddings, funerals, some job interviews, etc.. For this reason, I'd go for a closed toe shoe (balmoral). Thus my pick would be the 5th Ave.

 

I still say a Rogue in dark chili would be more versatile than walnut... but can understand why you are drawn to walnut. (I just picked up the LGA in walnut, my first new walnut in quite awhile.)

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No. This is wrong. As has been discussed many times over on this site, AE makes substantial profit selling seconds and gives them the opportunity to sell far more shoes than they would be able to at the higher first quality prices. In effect, their seconds market allows them to introduce an "entry level" line, without having to pay for the expense of tooling, marketing, etc, etc, blah blah, blah...

Seriously, I swear we just had this conversation...

This does not explain the significant variation in quality for FIRSTS. They most certainly take a loss on shoes developed as firsts, sold as firsts, and returned over and over and potentially have to be rebranded as seconds. There is an acceptable error rate in every manufacturing process, and AE has been able to sell from this error batch as seconds. Agreed, and not a terrible model. But you run into issues when their error rate starts creeping into firsts territory.
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Thanks for the feedback! See everything I've read says " no" to the Walnut with medium/light grey. The charts all suggest a more "basic" brown. But I like your suggestion the Walnut Rogue is a very nice shoe in my opinion. I think I will get that for my Brown shoe. As for the Black, if you had to decide between the Clifton or the Fith Avenue which would you choose? Very similar except the lacing . I know I don't want the Park Avenue right now. Weddings are formal but also allow some style and freedom.

Walnut and light grey work really well. Same with cream and light blue. Other than that, there are usually better options. Depending on how medium the medium grey is, Walnut - Dark Brown all could work, with Chili/Bourbon likely being better if you're sticking with a brown. Don't rule out snuff/brogue suede either (bitter chocolate is probably fine as well). But it depends on the day, occasion, weather, other clothing being worn, accessories, last time wearing those shoes, expected future next time wearing them, etc.

 

Clifton and Fifth Avenue are quite different. The Clifton feels really awkward to me. If you want a blucher I'd go Leeds, and if you want a balmoral I'd go PA (but I guess the Fifth Ave is fine).

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Thanks for the feedback! See everything I've read says " no" to the Walnut with medium/light grey. The charts all suggest a more "basic" brown. But I like your suggestion the Walnut Rogue is a very nice shoe in my opinion. I think I will get that for my Brown shoe. 

 

I understand the appeal of walnut, but if you're only going to have one brown shoe, then I'd suggest a darker shade of brown. Walnut just isn't as versatile as something like a brown or dark chili.

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