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I would like to start by stating how much i enjoy my AE shoes, and that the sales associates at the AE store i go to are nothing but stellar.

I would however live to voice my concerns regarding the craftsmanship quality of the last 2 pairs of shoes that i bought. Recently, i purchased the Kenilworths in burnished brown, and 2 days later i found the heel starting to come unglued. I opted to get the shoes repaired, since i did my best to imitate Patrick_B's wax job, and wanted to hold on to that pair. Also, i recently received my custom order for Moras in navy, which i waited 8 weeks for. I was getting ready to wax then when i noticed one of the buckles was not fully sewn, and was all but coming undone. It was very apparent from the hole pattern on the leather, from where the rest of the sewing would have been. That pair is also being repaired, and i was told they would put a rush order on both of them.

Is it possible that i am incredibly unlucky? I am starting to feel disillusioned about the quality of AE shoes, to the point that i'm thinking i should stop purchasing AE shoes for the time being. Heck, i don't even know if i should share these thoughts with my AE sales associate, because frankly, i don't know what can be done. Has anyone had trouble with AE craftsmanship quality lately?
Edited by JubeiSpiegel - 10/13/11 at 4:56pm
post #602 of 70737
I ordered three shoes that all had to be made in my size. The first was perfect. The second had several cosmetic and assembly defects that I posted about here on some thread. I returned it and am waiting for a replacement. The third had even more severe defects… fortunately the look was not so great on me, so I decided not to buy it.

Overall, a 1-out-of-3 success rate for my first AE orders (due to small finishing/assembly quality issues) has me a bit concerned. It’s frustrating because near as I can tell, the quality of materials is top notch. The finishing just seems rushed… as though each shoe could benefit from an extra 20 minutes of time throughout the assembly process.
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Thought the cats would like to see what came through today.....

Please excuse the hurried phone pics. Better photos shortly.
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AE Fifth Street spat-boot
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I am new to AE shoes, amd really like them a lot.   But I, too, have been irritated at how often I have had defects that would seem to me to make them "seconds,", yet they were shipped to me as factory first quality.

 

I have bought 8 pairs, from AE directly, from Endless.com, from Sherman Bros, and from Nordstrom.   Two pair of Randolphs that (to me) were unacceptable, were returned.   Five pair were fine.   The last pair I just received are of a Mcallisters, are not an example of their best crtaftsmanship.  I will try to uplaod a pic.   One heel as a grinder gouge.  I will probbaly just take a couple different grades of sandpaper and some liquid stain and try to "improve" them, as I'm not sure it rises to the level of needing to return them. 

 

But It does  irritate me that shoes that cost in the neighborhood  of $300 has me feeling like I need to figure out how to repair them right off the bat.   If the gouge is that noticeable to me, why didn't their "craftsman" repair the gouge before he stained the edges?  

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I haven't purchased a pair of 1st quality AE's in several yrs. Right now, I regularly wear the Kenilworth, Westchester and Tresana. All were purchased at the factory outlet in Freeport, ME. I buy during their frequent sales for a 15%-25% discount. I inspect fairly well before purchase but haven't gotten a bad pair yet. The Tresana (part of the Italian made 'Seven' line were paid for at the outlet but they shipped from the Madison Ave. store. I paid for factory 2nds but they may be 1st quality.

This was taken a few weeks ago during one of my Friday conference call shine sessions.

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AE Factory 2nd, Manhattan, Chili, ~2.5 yrs old
AE Factory 2nd, Westchester, Walnut, few months old
J&M from their 'Made in Italy' collection from ~4.5 yrs ago
AE Factory 2nd, Tresana, Cabernet Brown, from their ill-fated 'Seven' line, ~1.5 years old

The Tresana and the Johnston & Murphy fit so similarly, I wondered if they were made by the same mfr in Italy.

And my most recent AE factory 2nd purchase, the Kenilworth in burnished brown calf. These came out so damn nice, I didn't want to wear them smile.gif.

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Anybody know how often Shoebuy includes AE's in their sales? I looked a month or two ago and they were 20% off. Now they aren't included. Should have jumped on it when I had the chance :-(
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Hey there,

Hoping for a little advice. First time buying 'real' dress shoes. Tried the 'strand' in 10.5E (I'm normally 11.5EE), and while the heel was perfect, my pinky toe was getting crushed. They didn't have 10.5EEE in-store.

So I'm wondering, does the EEE designation widen the heel, or mainly the toe area?

I was planning on ordering an EEE, but don't want to find that the heel became too loose (I'd rather have a tight toe-box than an ill-fitting heel.

Thanks!
post #608 of 70737
ps_000,

Yes the heel will get wider by going from a 10.E to a 10.5EEE - Allen Edmonds does carry an EE width for certain models - Might want to try the EE first as it will provide another 3/16" of width in front portion, but will also widen the heel by that amount as well
post #609 of 70737
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ps_000,
Yes the heel will get wider by going from a 10.E to a 10.5EEE - Allen Edmonds does carry an EE width for certain models - Might want to try the EE first as it will provide another 3/16" of width in front portion, but will also widen the heel by that amount as well

I have asked before for the EE width, but they never carry it. Hopefully you will have more luck than i did, i was even told that they not longer had the EE last for the particular model i asked for.
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I would however live to voice my concerns regarding the craftsmanship quality of the last 2 pairs of shoes that i bought. Recently, i purchased the Kenilworths in burnished brown, and 2 days later i found the heel starting to come unglued. I opted to get the shoes repaired, since i did my best to imitate Patrick_B's wax job, and wanted to hold on to that pair.

I had the EXACT same problem with a new pair of Kenilworth in brown. A little gap appeared in one of the heels where it attaches to the sole. AE suggested I return them and they would look at them and see what to do about it. I declined because I didn't want to wait or possibly get stuck with paying additional shipping. I had them repaired at a local cobbler instead. Also a little nick in one of the heels that was not that noticeable but I still didn't like it. The craftsmanship appears not to be in the same league as my vintage Florsheims.
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Thanks for the info guys.

It doesn't seem that, at least online, EE exists for Strands and McAllister anymore. Has anyone had any luck getting size shoes in an EE size in-store? (I'm hoping to order online though -- Allen Edmonds seem to be marked-up by at least $50 in Canada!
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Originally Posted by spicolli1976 View Post

Anybody know how often Shoebuy includes AE's in their sales? I looked a month or two ago and they were 20% off. Now they aren't included. Should have jumped on it when I had the chance :-(

I dont believe too often, but check my signature. I may have what you are looking for.

Also, does anyone know when they are bringing the Mora back (not to the custom line)?
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Originally Posted by ps_000 View Post

Thanks for the info guys.
It doesn't seem that, at least online, EE exists for Strands and McAllister anymore. Has anyone had any luck getting size shoes in an EE size in-store? (I'm hoping to order online though -- Allen Edmonds seem to be marked-up by at least $50 in Canada!

They dont exist in EE unless you make them up in the custom section of the site, which will set you back at least $450 for basically the same shoe. Not worth an extra $125 just for a width because either the E will fit or the EEE will fit. No one is that exact that they can ONLY take EE
post #614 of 70737

The standards must have been lowered for what is considered "1st quality" these days.  I received a brown Fifth Avenue and a Black Park Avenue both with the infamous cracked heel right out of the box.  The Walnut FA and Walnut Strands I purchased are doing fine.  Maybe the Rediscovering America sale was more about dumping some second rate merch.  Although I'm sure they will take care of it and the SA's at my local store have been great.

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ps_000,

According to Allen Edmonds website, they do carry EE width in certain models (Park Ave / MacNeil / Leeds) - The best way to determine what they carry in EE width is to either call them or use their Live Chat functionality (AE has the best customer service I have ever experienced)

Good luck in your shoe search
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