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Uniqlo! $39.

 

I know this is the AE Appreciation thread, but... that is some great looking selvedge, esp at that price! How did you size these jeans? Do you have a preference in cut/style? (I have searched and read many posts here, and elsewhere, but the answers seem to be all over the place.) 

 

Thanks, JSO1!

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I know this is the AE Appreciation thread, but... that is some great looking selvedge, esp at that price! How did you size these jeans? Do you have a preference in cut/style? (I have searched and read many posts here, and elsewhere, but the answers seem to be all over the place.) 

 

Thanks, JSO1!

 

Sure. I prefer slim cut / slim fit jeans, pretty much the slimmest cut that most jeans are offered in from people like Levi's or Lucky. Nothing too crazy or fancy.

 

All of these fit roughly the same on me (no washing):

 

Uniqlo (selvedge) - 34

Levi's 511 (selvedge) - 34

Lucky Brand Legend (selvedge) - 33

Lucky Brand Dean / 1 Authentic Skinny (non-selvedge) - 33

Banana Republic Kentfield Pant - 33

Banana Republic Chinos - 33

Most dress slacks - 33

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It's hit or miss with that guy. He has some shoes that are absolutely trashed (uppers separated from the welt, massive gashes in the heel, etc.), but some are too bad at all.

 

Yeah you have to watch carefully, your best bet is not buying the trashed ones but trying to find the ones that look good but have just a bit of wear on them. Those are store returns that were taken back but now cannot be sold at retail so in most cases would have been firsts.

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Okay, guys. I need some help. I have spent the last couple of years buying shoes without a real plan. I want your help to tell me what my shoe wardrobe lacks and what is superfluous. What should I sell and what do I need that I don't currently have?

My current line up is as follows:

Gobi in snuff suede
Dalton in Walnut and OxBlood
Leeds in Black Cordovan and Brown Calf
MacNeil in #8 Cordovan
Vintage Gold Bond blutcher in #8 cordovan
Hinsdale loafer in #8 cordovan
Vernon in Chili Calf
Lexington in Walnut calf
Norwich in black calf
Bradley in black calf
McTavish in black calf
Strand in brown calf

 

 

 


I'm going to take another crack at this, though I don't expect to change anyone's mind.  :)

 

IMO, this set is heavy on bluchers, heavy on brogueing, heavy on shell, and heavy on black.  IOW, good to go for fall/winter non-suit situations.  In fact, an embarrassment of riches.  Among the things it is "thin" on, as noted by others, are casual spring/summer shoes.  So, lighter materials, lighter colors, etc., should be among the things considered for adding.

 

However, another thing I think it is light on - and this is where I think everyone else disagrees - is year round suit wear.  I'm not saying that one can never wear bluchers or a non-black shoe with a suit.  I do both all the time.  But I do think that for a certain look for certain occasions, a black plain captoe oxford/bal has no optimal substitute.  Out of the twelve shoe rotation, surely there is room for one.  To those who say you have plenty of black shoes, I guess my response is, "he has the wrong ones."  E.g., I think both the Bradley and Norwich would be excellent members of a 12 shoe rotation if they were in any color other than black. 

 

And, respectfully, I wonder what purpose a black McTavish serves.  It's an odd bird to begin with with "rough collection" leather, a double sole, and split welt but in an oxford configuaration.  Compounding that by offering it in black never made sense to me.  Apparently, AE has thought better of it and now has dropped black as a stock option.

 

Since your original mission to also consider what might be sold, I'd start by culling from the herd two or all three of the black shoes you now have, add a black captoe of your liking, and also add a dedicated spring summer shoe.  If you wear suits a lot, I stick by my thoughts of adding a dark colored non-black punch cap or wingtip.  If you don't, never mind.

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I'm going to take another crack at this, though I don't expect to change anyone's mind.  smile.gif

IMO, this set is heavy on bluchers, heavy on brogueing, heavy on shell, and heavy on black.  IOW, good to go for fall/winter non-suit situations.  In fact, an embarrassment of riches.  Among the things it is "thin" on, as noted by others, are casual spring/summer shoes.  So, lighter materials, lighter colors, etc., should be among the things considered for adding.

However, another thing I think it is light on - and this is where I think everyone else disagrees - is year round suit wear.  I'm not saying that one can never wear bluchers or a non-black shoe with a suit.  I do both all the time.  But I do think that for a certain look for certain occasions, a black plain captoe oxford/bal has no optimal substitute.  Out of the twelve shoe rotation, surely there is room for one.  To those who say you have plenty of black shoes, I guess my response is, "he has the wrong ones."  E.g., I think both the Bradley and Norwich would be excellent members of a 12 shoe rotation if they were in any color other than black. 

And, respectfully, I wonder what purpose a black McTavish serves.  It's an odd bird to begin with with "rough collection" leather, a double sole, and split welt but in an oxford configuaration.  Compounding that by offering it in black never made sense to me.  Apparently, AE has thought better of it and now has dropped black as a stock option.

Since your original mission to also consider what might be sold, I'd start by culling from the herd two or all three of the black shoes you now have, add a black captoe of your liking, and also add a dedicated spring summer shoe.  If you wear suits a lot, I stick by my thoughts of adding a dark colored non-black punch cap or wingtip.  If you don't, never mind.
I think those are all good thoughts. My rotation is pretty blutcher heavy because of a high instep. I have regretted the mctavish since I bought them. Norwich and Bradley could go without me missing them. I'd like to add a PA, suede strandmock, and shell fransiscan. Thoughts on those additions subtractions?
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I think those are all good thoughts. My rotation is pretty blutcher heavy because of a high instep. I have regretted the mctavish since I bought them. Norwich and Bradley could go without me missing them. I'd like to add a PA, suede strandmock, and shell fransiscan. Thoughts on those additions subtractions?

The Bradley used to do nothing for me, but has grown on me a lot. To the point that one of the few shoes I could actually fit into my wardrobe at this point would be a brown shell Bradley.

As to your possible additions, it is highly unlikely that you could find an appropriate fit in the PA/ Strandmok (65 last) and the Franciscan (333 last), particularly in shell, which will fit differently again to calfskin and especially because it is a monk loafer. These two lasts are very different and I would encourage you to try them in person before taking the plunge.
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I think those are all good thoughts. My rotation is pretty blutcher heavy because of a high instep. I have regretted the mctavish since I bought them. Norwich and Bradley could go without me missing them. I'd like to add a PA, suede strandmock, and shell fransiscan. Thoughts on those additions subtractions?

 

I'm a fellow sufferer so I get it.  You have some familiarity with the 65 last so I'm sure you can dial in a PA or FA to your liking.  I'm about a "E and a half"  on the 5 last.  With an E I get a V-gap that doesn't pass muster on SF but they're comfortable.

 

However, if either the look or the fit of a PA doesn't suit you, you might have better luck with another maker.  Carmina, e.g. offers both their Detroit and Rain lasts in a UK "EE" which is approximately a US "E" and folks with higher insteps speak well of both those lasts.  (I have on a Detroit lasted shoe today :).)  With current exchange rates, I see they have a black punch cap on the Rain (in UK EE) for $343 and free shipping.  I THINK that is before the VAT is deducted.  Even if not, still a great deal.

 

I think your suggested three-for-three swap is a strong net improvement.  You might also consider an inexpensive dirty buck  as an additional S/S option.  Unfortunately, I don't think AE currently offers one, unless I'm forgetting one. 

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Brown shell strands today smile.gif
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I have only ever bought AEs because I have a store 30 minutes away. Can you point me to a link to check out the Carmina shoes you mentioned?

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I'm a fellow sufferer so I get it.  You have some familiarity with the 65 last so I'm sure you can dial in a PA or FA to your liking.  I'm about a "E and a half"  on the 5 last.  With an E I get a V-gap that doesn't pass muster on SF but they're comfortable.

 

However, if either the look or the fit of a PA doesn't suit you, you might have better luck with another maker.  Carmina, e.g. offers both their Detroit and Rain lasts in a UK "EE" which is approximately a US "E" and folks with higher insteps speak well of both those lasts.  (I have on a Detroit lasted shoe today :).)  With current exchange rates, I see they have a black punch cap on the Rain (in UK EE) for $343 and free shipping.  I THINK that is before the VAT is deducted.  Even if not, still a great deal.

 

I think your suggested three-for-three swap is a strong net improvement.  You might also consider an inexpensive dirty buck  as an additional S/S option.  Unfortunately, I don't think AE currently offers one, unless I'm forgetting one. 

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You might also consider an inexpensive dirty buck  as an additional S/S option.  Unfortunately, I don't think AE currently offers one, unless I'm forgetting one. 

You aren't. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and order a MTO Leeds in snuff suede with brass eyelets and chili welt soon for this very purpose. I'm undecided on whether I want it lined or not and the type of sole... And before anyone mentions it, I am aware of the Frans Boone Alden PTB that is exactly that. I'm 12.5B in the Barrie last, so it's not an option.
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I have only ever bought AEs because I have a store 30 minutes away. Can you point me to a link to check out the Carmina shoes you mentioned?

 

Sure (if I've done it correctly) : http://www.carminashoemaker.com/mens-oxford-shoes/toe-cap-punched-80201

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You aren't. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and order a MTO Leeds in snuff suede with brass eyelets and chili welt soon for this very purpose. I'm undecided on whether I want it lined or not and the type of sole... And before anyone mentions it, I am aware of the Frans Boone Alden PTB that is exactly that. I'm 12.5B in the Barrie last, so it's not an option.

 

You know, with their great variety of offerings, the (current) omissions of a white/dirty buck, a grain LWB, a SWB (except for this new travelers/comfort thing), and a (cleatless) spectator are curious.  Shoe companies much smaller have entries in one or more of those slots.  AE has none, and the ones they once did have have been dropped. 

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All of these fit roughly the same on me (no washing):

 

Thanks so much!

 

And a BIG thanks to everyone on this board/thread. I have learned so much in my short time here. My fashion sense loves you, my wallet... not so much. 

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I understand the black McTavish doesn't fit a predetermined category, and I never thought I'd like a clunky looking shoe like that, but I love that shoe. I have no regrets about buying it. I wear dress pants and shirt everyday to work. It takes the traditional wingtip and, with the matte finish leather and contrast stitching and sole, gives it a bit of a contemporary flair. I enjoy the feel of the shoe when I wear it. It has a place for me.
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And, respectfully, I wonder what purpose a black McTavish serves.  It's an odd bird to begin with with "rough collection" leather, a double sole, and split welt but in an oxford configuaration.  Compounding that by offering it in black never made sense to me.  Apparently, AE has thought better of it and now has dropped black as a stock option.

I understand the black McTavish doesn't fit a predetermined category, and I never thought I'd like a clunky looking shoe like that, but I love that shoe. I have no regrets about buying it. I wear dress pants and shirt everyday to work. It takes the traditional wingtip and, with the matte finish leather and contrast stitching and sole, gives it a bit of a contemporary flair. I enjoy the feel of the shoe when I wear it. It has a place for me.


I actually love wearing the shoe as well. Fits great and very comfortable, plus I feel it is more rain resistant than others I have. My problem is philosophy of use. It is too casual for suits/nice slacks, and too dressy for jeans.

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