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No difference for me, ie no more difference than comparing a pair built on a Wednesday with one built on a Friday.
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Originally Posted by Allen Dreadmon View Post

I'm thinking of picking up another pair of Strands.  My 8D's fit well except for the flaps forming a "V".  This didn't bother me until I saw pics here of proper fitting balmoral shoes - they look way better with the flaps touching. 

Will stretching the width help a bit with the flaps?  Thanks in advance.

This morning:



Stretching to add width might even make the "problem" worse since the leather would then have to cover a broader area, ie travel farther.

If they fit great, either forget about it or try another last (or brand). If your current ones are a bit snug, try an E or EE. However, fit trumps all. I wouldn't keep adding width just for aesthetic reasons.
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Stretching to add width might even make the "problem" worse since the leather would then have to cover a broader area, ie travel farther.

If they fit great, either forget about it or try another last (or brand). If your current ones are a bit snug, try an E or EE. However, fit trumps all. I wouldn't keep adding width just for aesthetic reasons.

 

That makes sense.  Thanks for your response.

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Have you actually tried them both?  The Rush Streets are awesome - like a super comfortable version of the park ave.  The Addison fit is radically different from any of the current styles - the toebox and heel fit huge.  If you haven't already tried them, that may influence your decision.

I'm actually have both and they fit my feet well. I was just looking for suggestions on which would look better with a seersucker suit.
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Seeking some opinions. Which shoe would you wear with seersucker, golden Rush street or Addison? I'd love to add a woven for this occasion, but I've already hit my allotment for shoes this spring.

 

I assume you're talking about blue seersucker and you don't want to (or can't) wear bucks.  If the Rush Street and the Addison are your only choices, I would do the Rush Street, as I would not do a loafer even with a casual suit (my bias although many if not most in this thread would disagree).  However, I much prefer something in the red family with blue seersucker.  I've been know to wear burgundy shortwing bals with mine.

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No difference for me, ie no more difference than comparing a pair built on a Wednesday with one built on a Friday.

Exactly. I can't really tell any general difference in fit between my Jeffersons, she'll strands or park aves, suede mcallisters, or grey McTavish. But items that are made by people using natural materials will have some degree of variability.

However, my shell Kenilworths (with indy lining) are my loosest 5 last shoes (but that's because the pattern runs big), and my Ardsley park MTO is the tightest (because the factory installed a full sockliner by mistake.)
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Originally Posted by Allen Dreadmon View Post
 

I'm thinking of picking up another pair of Strands.  My 8D's fit well except for the flaps forming a "V".  This didn't bother me until I saw pics here of proper fitting balmoral shoes - they look way better with the flaps touching. 

 

Will stretching the width help a bit with the flaps?  Thanks in advance.

 

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I would advice that you move on to a different last, that has more room on the instep area, such as the 333 and 201 lasts.

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I assume you're talking about blue seersucker and you don't want to (or can't) wear bucks.  If the Rush Street and the Addison are your only choices, I would do the Rush Street, as I would not do a loafer even with a casual suit (my bias although many if not most in this thread would disagree).  However, I much prefer something in the red family with blue seersucker.  I've been know to wear burgundy shortwing bals with mine.

 

I would do the loafer personally.  The fact that you are considering wovens points me to a loafer.  Seersuker to me is a most casual suiting (the wrinkles that keeps it in that ballpark), and pretty much any loafer would go.  

 

Seersucker with a snuff suede tassel or strap loafer is what I'd do.  

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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post


Stretching to add width might even make the "problem" worse since the leather would then have to cover a broader area, ie travel farther.

If they fit great, either forget about it or try another last (or brand). If your current ones are a bit snug, try an E or EE. However, fit trumps all. I wouldn't keep adding width just for aesthetic reasons.

 

You might get a similar fit going a half size down and up a width. You'd be surprised. If you have a store near by, it would be worth it go to and try a few sizes. Hopefully the SA is smart and knows that helping you get into the right size could mean you buying more shoes in the future. 

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

I assume you're talking about blue seersucker and you don't want to (or can't) wear bucks.  If the Rush Street and the Addison are your only choices, I would do the Rush Street, as I would not do a loafer even with a casual suit (my bias although many if not most in this thread would disagree).  However, I much prefer something in the red family with blue seersucker.  I've been know to wear burgundy shortwing bals with mine.

Yes to behonest I am not a big fan of bucks. Interesting take. I do have a pair of merlot mcallisters. I'll have to try them on with the suit as well.
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Originally Posted by Allen Dreadmon View Post

I'm thinking of picking up another pair of Strands.  My 8D's fit well except for the flaps forming a "V".  This didn't bother me until I saw pics here of proper fitting balmoral shoes - they look way better with the flaps touching. 

Will stretching the width help a bit with the flaps?  Thanks in advance.

This morning:



Are they still new? Have they broken in yet? If the shoe is tight on the foot and you want to close the gap, I have had success by wearing a pair of athletic sock maybe 2 for a day or as long as you can stand it. It should stretch out and the v will close better. I feel like a stretcher can over stretch and not stretch in all the right spots.
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After seeing your original post (which I think said something like "I picked up x and y, and also a pair of Norwich seconds, which are really comfortable...") I remember thinking, "that's funny, I've never heard anyone say that :) You do know that the 222 last can be pretty brutal in terms of width, especially in stiff calf leather like that used on the Norwich?  The 222 is sort of a compromise for me - it really works well for high arches if you can deal with a crazy tapered toebox.  If I recall correctly, the Norwich received a lot of complaints.  Good luck - they do look really nice, hope they work out for you.  Anyone I've heard say they like them has either an A or B width in general.

My left foot, which is half a size longer and narrower than my right foot, was fine. The problem was my slightly wider right foot. With those with experience with the double oak sole, how brutal and long is the break in period? How much stretching should I expect?

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Originally Posted by LEgoiste View Post
 

 

I would advice that you move on to a different last, that has more room on the instep area, such as the 333 and 201 lasts.

 I do suffer from high instep.  I was hoping to pick up a pair of Strand seconds from Shoebank.

 

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Are they still new? Have they broken in yet? If the shoe is tight on the foot and you want to close the gap, I have had success by wearing a pair of athletic sock maybe 2 for a day or as long as you can stand it. It should stretch out and the v will close better. I feel like a stretcher can over stretch and not stretch in all the right spots.

 

Thanks, I'll try your suggestion!  They are not new but have been worn less than 10 times.

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For those of you from NYC area, would you suggest a good sales associate from any of the stores in the city that will take his/her time to get me in properly fitting shoes? I want to pick up a pair of McAllisters, and I am tired of going through this trial and error wasting money.

Thanks in advance.
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For those of you from NYC area, would you suggest a good sales associate from any of the stores in the city that will take his/her time to get me in properly fitting shoes? I want to pick up a pair of McAllisters, and I am tired of going through this trial and error wasting money.

Thanks in advance.


You should have asked this question yesterday at the very latest!!!

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