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Unfortunately, CS is not a substitute for QC. There's a reason why almost every firm in the world would like to keep their quality failures internal - AE, on the other hand, seems to view their customers as something of an outsourced QC department.

 


I agree with you that CS is not a substitute for QC. However, the large number of seconds has created a marketplace for the outlets. Basically AE has created an entry level line for consumers who would perhaps find the $385 price unreachable but $249 and below in their budget. By getting them comfortable with the product at a lower price, those purchasers may eventually move up to retail, or at least 1st quality buyers.

Imagine what would happen if AE fixed their manufacturing to a 1% exception rate. The shoebank would disappear, the outlets would disappear and they would need to create an entirely new entry level line if they wanted to retain their 2nds customer. And that is not to say that a new line would be a successfull strategy. 2nds represent "value" to a lot of buyers.

I am not saying that they are doing this on purpose, but I'll bet they sell a hell of a lot more shoes the way things are now than if they fixed their qc issues and stopped selling 2nds.
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Which last runs longer: 65 or 333?

In my experience, the 333 last runs longer

 

Thanks, I thought the 65 is supposed to be AE's longest last.

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Hello all,

I walked into the nearest store and I came along the Shreveport woven lace-up and fell in love. However, size 7 shoes are hard to come by and I always try on shoes before I buy. Can anyone tell me how they fit? They seem narrow and not long like a Magnanni but I would like input before I order online for the sale.

 

You will love them.

 

I wear the same size as my Strands and Park Avenues, but they feel awesome because of the woven sides. 

 

I have both black and walnut.

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Does the Shoebank still run 2 for $250 sales? Used to get these a couple times a year, but it's been the longest time since I've seen an email for one

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Unfortunately, CS is not a substitute for QC. There's a reason why almost every firm in the world would like to keep their quality failures internal - AE, on the other hand, seems to view their customers as something of an outsourced QC department.

 


I agree with you that CS is not a substitute for QC. However, the large number of seconds has created a marketplace for the outlets. Basically AE has created an entry level line for consumers who would perhaps find the $385 price unreachable but $249 and below in their budget. By getting them comfortable with the product at a lower price, those purchasers may eventually move up to retail, or at least 1st quality buyers.

Imagine what would happen if AE fixed their manufacturing to a 1% exception rate. The shoebank would disappear, the outlets would disappear and they would need to create an entirely new entry level line if they wanted to retain their 2nds customer. And that is not to say that a new line would be a successfull strategy. 2nds represent "value" to a lot of buyers.

I am not saying that they are doing this on purpose, but I'll bet they sell a hell of a lot more shoes the way things are now than if they fixed their qc issues and stopped selling 2nds.

 

Great post @bdavro23! Nice analysis of AE's current business model. I'm not sure if it's by design, but it appears to be working for them!

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PSA

Brown Shell Strands on Shoebank this morning in 11.5 D.
Not any more😜
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Does the Shoebank still run 2 for $250 sales? Used to get these a couple times a year, but it's been the longest time since I've seen an email for one

Long gone, I'm afraid.
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Anyone have sizing advice on the Snuff Suede Singleton loafer for Ralph Lauren? I read somewhere that it is on the 2 last, but I am not very familiar with it. I'm usually a TTS 8.5D. I plan to wear sockless or with thin no show socks. Do you think 8D would work for me? Thanks in advance for any help.

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Anyone have sizing advice on the Snuff Suede Singleton loafer for Ralph Lauren? I read somewhere that it is on the 2 last, but I am not very familiar with it. I'm usually a TTS 8.5D. I plan to wear sockless or with thin no show socks. Do you think 8D would work for me? Thanks in advance for any help.


 


I have a slightly low volume foot and found I had to size down. If you have a high volume foot or a high instep, you may want to go TTS. YMMV.
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Anyone have sizing advice on the Snuff Suede Singleton loafer for Ralph Lauren? I read somewhere that it is on the 2 last, but I am not very familiar with it. I'm usually a TTS 8.5D. I plan to wear sockless or with thin no show socks. Do you think 8D would work for me? Thanks in advance for any help.

2 last is narrow, but I find TTS works.

 

I'm looking for a pair of those in 9D myself...

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I would say I have a low volume foot. I hope 8D works, I found them on the Ralph Lauren website for $169. I believe there is still a 12D available if anyone is interested. If they don't work out, I'll just send them back. It seemed to be worth a shot to me. I love the look of them.

 

Thank you both for your help!

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Not any more😜

Good for you, @RitchieBro! Feed that addiction!
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I ended up getting a pair of Cole Haan wingtips.  I like them, they just need to be broken in some.

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Visited the LaSalle St. Chicago store today to do some color comparisons.  It's amazing how much it helps to see them in person.  Was looking for a Merlot McA, but wound up going with the Dark Chili. Came back to the office to order, so I can avoid sales tax (ship to Indiana).  If I get another shoe during the sale, it will be the Shreveport.

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Gentlemen,

While placing an order at the Riverhead outlet yesterday, I inquired as to the availability of certain RL-branded shoes, namely the RL Singleton loafer. I was informed that there was no record of seconds in this shoe, in any size. The SA opined that AE may have sold them all off. Can anyone verify this information? The RL Singleton is a great shoe, even better when they can be had at seconds pricing.
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