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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post

I seriously need to stop reading this thread. I want a pair of caryle, dalton and more. I'm going to go broke

 

My black Carlyle and bourbon Dalton are probably my 2 favorite pairs.

 

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My black Carlyle and bourbon Dalton are probably my 2 favorite pairs.

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Can you post pics of both please? I'm looking at the oxblood dalton since all my other AE's are in brown shades
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Today was warm enough that I decided to break out my Banchorys, for what is probably the 4th wearing or so. I bought them as seconds, and figured the flaw was the deep tear in the leather that needed mending on both sides... or maybe the twisted, askew broguing... but, today, I noticed the stitching holding the tongue on has come out... and back they go to the cobbler.

 

Getting these for $107 is suddenly looking like less and less of a steal :censored: 

 

 

EDIT: The tongue is still attached, but over 50% of the stitches have popped

You seem to have the worst luck with the seconds...you're making me reconsider some things I have on order.

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I love my walnut Strands but I'd say they are the LEAST versitile AE's I have.

Fair warning, I'm helplessly traditional. But, I don't like - when wearing coat and tie - to wear shoes lighter than my pants. Thus, the only suit I'd consider wearing them with is something light and seasonal, eg seersucker. Never with a "business" medium to dark gray or navy suit.

With odd jacket and trousers, I've wron then with lighter pants but I also have lots of bluchers and wear them with odd jackets, too. Being walnut, they aren't out of the closet much in fall and winter.

As far as wearing them without coat and tie, I don't do that with bals. Not much anyway. And never with jeans. So, as much as I love the looks of mine, they don't see much use, especially this time of year.

I'd say my most versitile are, in no particular order:

* Truffle (medium brown) shell McGraws (loafers)

* dark brown Sanderson (RL x AE LWB with single sole)

* sniff suade Neumoks (wing tipped bal)

I don't like to be disagreeable, but I would tend to disagree almost entirely about my Walnut Strands.

 

Do you have a matching belt? I think that makes them work.

 

Also coordinating shoelaces with my ties is a great combo.

 

I am in my mid 30's, if that makes a difference.

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Do you actually use the Alden Leather Defender that's recommended here? I've never tried it so I'm curious. I guess I'm a little adverse to spraying anything on shell.
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Funny you mention the Neumoks. I just got my brown leather Neumoks in from the bank. Tried them on with jeans, chinos and slacks and I liked the look. Just need something like the infamous "Players" that kinda worked with everything.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post


I love my walnut Strands but I'd say they are the LEAST versitile AE's I have.

Fair warning, I'm helplessly traditional. But, I don't like - when wearing coat and tie - to wear shoes lighter than my pants. Thus, the only suit I'd consider wearing them with is something light and seasonal, eg seersucker. Never with a "business" medium to dark gray or navy suit.

With odd jacket and trousers, I've wron then with lighter pants but I also have lots of bluchers and wear them with odd jackets, too. Being walnut, they aren't out of the closet much in fall and winter.

As far as wearing them without coat and tie, I don't do that with bals. Not much anyway. And never with jeans. So, as much as I love the looks of mine, they don't see much use, especially this time of year.

I'd say my most versitile are, in no particular order:

* Truffle (medium brown) shell McGraws (loafers)

* dark brown Sanderson (RL x AE LWB with single sole)

* sniff suade Neumoks (wing tipped bal)

 

 

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Originally Posted by catlettsl View Post

What would you guys say is the most versatile AE's. Suits, slacks, chinos, jeans.....Walnut Strands????


Far from being my favorite, but I would say my most versatile would be my black Daltons.  Walnut Strands?  If you want the captoe to scream for attention and be the first thing anyone notices maybe - doesn't work for me.  Are you guys talking about that sort of soft flexible suede neumok in brown?  I tried that and didn't like it at all.  The acorn one was nice but that brown one I just couldn't stand - and this is coming from someone who bought the red.  Guess everyone's opinion is different. 

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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post

I seriously need to stop reading this thread. I want a pair of caryle, dalton and more. I'm going to go broke

 

I can definitely recommend the Dalton, but if you haven't tried it on, read through some of the reviews on the AE website about this right boot pressure issue some people have - one of those reviews is mine.  It does go away but the break-in period was considerable, at least for me.  Don't worry about going broke - when AE starts producing that lightweight comfort crap you'll be able to save more.

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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post


Can you post pics of both please? I'm looking at the oxblood dalton since all my other AE's are in brown shades
 

These photos are reposts (and poor quality from an iPhone), but it's all I have for now, and the lighting in my apartment is abysmal for photography. The first two are from when I was asked to compare the 5 last (Park Ave.) to the 8 last. The pic of the Daltons was from when I first received them. The Carlyles are first quality and the Daltons are seconds, with no discernible flaws.

 

 

 

 

 

Bonus Shot of the Carlyles in action (Click to show)

Just to highlight the 8 last's silhouette.


Edited by Darkside - 2/11/15 at 6:54pm
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You seem to have the worst luck with the seconds...you're making me reconsider some things I have on order.

 

I've had lots of bad luck with AE, but it's been generally improving. With seconds, anything too serious was happily returned pro gratis. The only seconds I've not returned and had trouble with have been the Banchorys with the tear (visible at purchase) & tongue stitching and my Walnut Shell Daltons, also with stitching issues (very minor and easily corrected by my cobbler).  Besides these, I did have a pair of Bourbon calf Daltons with a faulty heel counter, which was my oddest defect and most troublesome return.

 

Overall, I'll continue buying seconds < $200 and shell < $400. Over that, it's harder not to justify firsts, especially considering the deals that can be had on clearance, during anniversary sales, etc.

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much appreciated @Darkside
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I can definitely recommend the Dalton, but if you haven't tried it on, read through some of the reviews on the AE website about this right boot pressure issue some people have - one of those reviews is mine.  It does go away but the break-in period was considerable, at least for me.  Don't worry about going broke - when AE starts producing that lightweight comfort crap you'll be able to save more.

 

If "lightweight comfort" doesn't remove from the catalog, I don't see what the problem is. I'm actually intrigued by the potential, depending on what the actual offerings end up being.

 

I understand the fear that offering casual shoes and taking risks with fashion could be detrimental to AE's success. However, smaller companies have an advantage over larger corporations in being more agile to change. That's admittedly easier for a startup than a genuine heritage brand, but it's also important to gain new customers, especially with an aging demographic. The last few years have been good and bad for shoe companies, with heritage styling coming back into fashion. Companies like AE see themselves attracting a new demographic, with more younger buyers than they've had in over two decades. They need to address that demographic as well as their long-time, loyal customers; that new, younger demographic might grow into being their next generation of long-time, loyal customers!

 

I'm in my early 30's and exclusively wear AE shoes 365 days a year (minus days I wear bean boots), but I know plenty of guys at my age or younger that wear expensive and glued, but nice-looking, leather sneakers... Leather sneakers are kinda "in" at the moment.  Perhaps it's not your style, or mine, but maybe those same guys are buying the Walnut Strand, McTavish, or Gobi?  Perhaps some of them will appreciate buying their next lightweight, leather casual shoe from AE as well? Is it not worth the experiment?

 

 

I suppose some will say those buyers should just go elsewhere fo their shoes and AE should just keep doing what it's always done. I guess that's fair. I'm biased because there are at least some styles I might be interested in not available by AE, but not available in my size by *any* maker, so I'm completely okay with a wide-width maker choosing to expand their line. That's especially true of it opens up more leathers for MTOs ;)

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I think from a business/professional standpoint, AE has their core offerings and that does not change too much - Strand, Park Avenue, McAllister, Fifth Avenue, etc...  But they've also added some new styles that I think are really outstanding - the Carlyle and the McGregor, both are extremely nice in person and I hope are part of the long term collection.

 

The other stuff that's more casual, you can see them trying out a bunch of new stuff every year and keeping what works/sells and discontinuing what does not.  I think this is actually a pretty smart approach.  They also seem to be learning how to make a better, more stylish shoe.  Compare some of the styles like the Clark Street or the McTavish to some of the utter drek they had 3 years ago and you'll see what I mean.  Even their stuff from the DR is better than the competition, IMO.  I have a pair of tan Eastports and they have held up better, look nicer, and are more comfortable than the red/white Sperry Top Siders I have. 

 

Anyway, I think AE is transitioning from a company that was pretty fuddy duddy to one with a more modern sensibility.  I hope the trend toward more stylish shoes while maintaining high build quality and leather quality continues.

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Wearing my Elgins today. Doesn't get a lot of love because balmoral + casual details doesn't make a lot of sense. Good looking shoe though.
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I'm surprised there are already Rogue and Warwick seconds on the ShoeBank (for $254 vs $385 firsts). The 201 last is really comfortable with its roomier toe area and instep, yet still has the 5 last's sleek shape. I'm definitely considering the Warwick as my next purchase. A SWB would be nice as well on this last.

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I'm surprised there are already Rogue and Warwick seconds on the ShoeBank (for $254 vs $385 firsts). The 201 last is really comfortable with its roomier toe area and instep, yet still has the 5 last's sleek shape. I'm definitely considering the Warwick as my next purchase. A SWB would be nice as well on this last.
it actually makes more sense. They're producing a new shoe in large quantities to create a stock, they're bound to make errors as they do with any other shoe. If anything, I'd expect more 2nd of those two models.
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