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Some seconds are still OK though. Wearing one today Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Very nice! How the fit on those shell Graysons compared to calf 5 last?

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I agree with Dale. I've had pretty good luck with shell seconds, particularly at the 299 and 325 price points. Here are my 3 pairs:

Bradley's (slightly dry piece of leather on right shoe):



Park Avenue (crease on the vamps: we're firsts that had been tried on a little too aggressively. I bet I can eliminate it completely with the MDubs method):




Strands, (some askew stitching on the right toe cap. I do notice it sometimes, but for 299 doesn't really bother me):

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I have had good luck with shell seconds too, I think two at $299, one at $325 and two at $399.  I think it helps having a SA who knows what kind of flaws I am willing to accept.

 

 

Burgundy Patriots (one shoe was a display model and is slightly lighter, firsts otherwise and no stamp on them)

 

 

Truffle McAllisters (worst of what I have got, has a small darkened and creased section seen below. I was aware of the flaw before ordering them)

 

 

 

 

 

Brown Strands (had a small dent in the back and a small section of frayed stitching. lighter color in some sections after stripping the polish but I actually like that haha)

 

 

 

Brown Dundees (Looked like firsts and I don't think have a stamp. The do also have a slightly different color on one piece on the left shoe)

 

 

Burgundy Leeds (almost like a leather scar on the toe of the right shoe, can hardly notice at all. Also was a bit odd looking on the side but that broke in)

 

 

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$299 burgundy shell MacNeil seconds today:

 

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I have nothing against seconds. They're a great and affordable way to get into quality footwear. But seconds with truly severe flaws (I think the Dundees above qualify, and I've seen other "seconds" that are totally trashed in some way), even if purely cosmetic, should not be sold. It reflects poorly on the company in general. Having an outlet with some slightly-inferior merchandise is fine, but shoes that are so flawed that they only showcase your sloppy handiwork and poor quality control - that's not good. Just my two cents.

 

Agree 100%.  There are seconds and there are "thirds".  The latter should just be scrapped before they hit the market.

 

I once bought a pair of "seconds" from the Shoe Bank that had what I considered to be a pretty egregious flaw.  I emailed a photo of the flaw back to the SA.  He apologized and said there's no way those should have even left the factory floor.  Took them back without restocking fee.

 

This was in the days before I started asking SAs to give my seconds purchases a quick once-over before sending them to me.

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I am thinking about buying Long Branch - Teak distressed Leather shoe that is on sale now for $197. 

Before that if you own one of these, can you please post some pictures/opinion on this? 

Appreciate your help.

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Very nice! How the fit on those shell Graysons compared to calf 5 last?


I will defer to the op for the final word, but having tried on enough 97-last styles including the Grayson, I would point out that the fit is significantly different than the calf 65-last.  It is sort of narrow in the front/toebox area and widens as it goes out.  If you have really narrow heels that may be an issue.  Having said that I take the same size and width in both.

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Bourbon Strand seconds just delivered. They look great and feel great. The only things I can find are the stitching on the left toe is too close to the edge, and one spot on the back right that will disappear the first time they are polished.
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I do like some of the shoes with the woven portions, but I think the Shreveport is one that I like less than others.  I really wanted a pair of the two-tone Rye NY or I could see myself with the Boca Raton, Taormina or Carlsbad model.  I think I prefer the woven section to be a minority accent rather than the bulk of the upper.


You're like all over the map with these styles in terms of how they fit, not sure if you realize that.  Do you like any of these more than the others?

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Is it just me or do other members agree that color variations in shell are just part of the material and don't qualify them immediately as seconds?

I find most shell, especially when stripped down have variations in color. I understand the display models where one shoe is clearly lighter than the other is one thing, but different cuts typically have a different shade in the light.
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I will defer to the op for the final word, but having tried on enough 97-last styles including the Grayson, I would point out that the fit is significantly different than the calf 65-last.  It is sort of narrow in the front/toebox area and widens as it goes out.  If you have really narrow heels that may be an issue.  Having said that I take the same size and width in both.

I wear 10.5C in both the Grayson and Strand. All of mine are Shell though. No calf.

-Mike
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Is it just me or do other members agree that color variations in shell are just part of the material and don't qualify them immediately as seconds?

I find most shell, especially when stripped down have variations in color. I understand the display models where one shoe is clearly lighter than the other is one thing, but different cuts typically have a different shade in the light.

 

I actually like to see variations in the color of the shell.  And it is very difficult to avoid.  They have to use two different pieces of shell to make the shoes so the hardest part is matching the shell pieces in terms of color.  I believe it is @mdubs who has a pair of alden lhs loafers in ravello where the strap is a slightly different color than the rest of the shoes.  Looks absolutely fantastic to me.  Other than display models affected by sunlight etc., I don't think certain variations should automatically disqualify the shoes as seconds.

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I actually like to see variations in the color of the shell.  And it is very difficult to avoid.  They have to use two different pieces of shell to make the shoes so the hardest part is matching the shell pieces in terms of color.  I believe it is @mdubs who has a pair of alden lhs loafers in ravello where the strap is a slightly different color than the rest of the shoes.  Looks absolutely fantastic to me.  Other than display models affected by sunlight etc., I don't think certain variations should automatically disqualify the shoes as seconds.

+1

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I actually like to see variations in the color of the shell.  And it is very difficult to avoid.  They have to use two different pieces of shell to make the shoes so the hardest part is matching the shell pieces in terms of color.  I believe it is @mdubs who has a pair of alden lhs loafers in ravello where the strap is a slightly different color than the rest of the shoes.  Looks absolutely fantastic to me.  Other than display models affected by sunlight etc., I don't think certain variations should automatically disqualify the shoes as seconds.

 

 

Alden did an amazing job matching the shell pieces on the strap of my LHS. 

 

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Bourbon Strand seconds just delivered. They look great and feel great. The only things I can find are the stitching on the left toe is too close to the edge, and one spot on the back right that will disappear the first time they are polished.

 

Both "things" you point out should be no problem for you and the shoes. Enjoy them!

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