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My fellow AE fans I need opinions.

I have a pair of navy players on the way and i realize most of my shoes are brown shades.

Kenilworth - Brown
Stand - Walnut
Lasalle - Chili
San Marco - Brown
Fifth Ave - Black (being sold at the moment)

Was thinking about the Daltons in bourbon. Is it too close to my other shoes in brown? or maybe oxblood? or the cronmok?

Oxblood, merlot or navy. If it's Daltons you are after Oxblood for sure. Pure sex. Really regret missing the EC Oxblood GMTO. Or throw in a suede Navy Mcgregor.
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What's the story on the Norwich (I mean besides the whole 2 last thing). Anyone here have it? Like it?

Between Norwich and bradley, which would be more versatile? Less old mannish?

What do folks wear with either?

Have the Norwich in brown calf...probably the least-worn of my now 17 AEs. Probably mostly has to do with the fact that I have 3 other business casual-ish shoes in brown (Neumora, Patriot, and Townley) that I'll tend to chose over the Norwich. The 2-last fit doesn't help either.

I'd rather have the Bradley. That partly goes to the fact that I don't currently have a burgundy open-laced shoe & have too many dark brown options, though.
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Maiden voyage of my rush streets. My girlfriend had a little fun with her picture app.
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I would bring them to a cobbler. It will cause a more dramatic change and will help prevent the pain that you have to endure to just barely stretch them. It takes a lot from your foot to actually stretch a leather shoe that is lined enough to make that big of a difference. Plus when you use a thicker sock to fill up space as I commonly have to do with an extremely narrow foot, it is one thing. It is completely different when you are trying to make your foot effectively larger to stretch a shoe because the material of the sock does spread and thins out in different areas, which lowers the effectiveness of the idea. A cobbler can fill the area with a stretcher and even add pads/blocks to the stretcher to push out in those areas with something hard and solid. 

I'll try - will let you know how this works out.  Note to the others - listen to the dr, he knows what he is talking about.

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I was looking for a pair of sort of rugged casual AEs.  My go-to was the Ridgeway but it looks like I missed out on that since there are no more around.  Was really hoping to score a pair of Black Hills in black but all that is available is the Walnut and the Grey.  For anyone that hasn't tried them, the Black Hills are crazy comfortable.  Anyway, let's say these were my choices based on availability of shoebank and the retail store at this point:

Brooks Aberdeen (dark brown), Brooks San Marco (black), AE Kiowa, AE Nashua (all black), Black Hills (Walnut).  I prefer black or darker colors in general.

1.) Which do you think is the best choice of these, and 2.) Anyone have any experience with either the Brooks Aberdeen or the Kiowa?  I don't have much experience with the Brooks styles; I think I did try on one at some point and remember it being a much more snug fit due to the poron but didn't know if it was enough to justify a size change.  I love the look of the Kiowa but have no idea on the sizing.

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Sort of unrelated, but have been meaning to ask this.  What is up with the Strandmok?  AE has the Neumok already and they discontinue the red and the green (both of which were awesome) and they have the Rush Street with which they discontinue everything but the brown.  They advertise the Strandmok as an "alternative to boots" with a danite sole, yet it is unlined (don't know about others, but I can't wear my unlined Neumoks in freezing winter weather).  So I guess I just don't get it.  Why keep the Strandmok around while discontinuing many of the Neumok and Rush Street styles, which at least in my opinion, were better styles?

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So I scooped up these shell AE Fairgate's on Ebay. Being that my workplace is extremely casual and I can't resisit the antique welt, I decided to take them to my local cobbler (Choi Shoe Repair in Seattle) to have the blind eyelets replaced with exposed and to sand the edge and apply neutral dressing for a contrast look. Here are the before and afters:

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So I scooped up these shell AE Fairgate's on Ebay. Being that my workplace is extremely casual and I can't resisit the antique welt, I decided to take them to my local cobbler (Choi Shoe Repair in Seattle) to have the blind eyelets replaced with exposed and to sand the edge and apply neutral dressing for a contrast look. Here are the before and afters:

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Wow those are spectacular....excellent! I am starting to gather up a few pairs I want some altercations done too...very nice...is the welt flat black or dark brown

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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

What's the story on the Norwich (I mean besides the whole 2 last thing). Anyone here have it? Like it?

Between Norwich and bradley, which would be more versatile? Less old mannish?

What do folks wear with either?

 

Less old manish? Probably the Norwich IMO. It wears well with suits (especially in shell) or dressed down. but.

 

The Norwich can be a real bear to fit properly. Because its on the 2 last, it gets pinchy in the toe, but then you have excess room around the throat that the strap can't take in when you size up. Obviously the black and brown calf are on clearance, which essentially means they're going away. I don't know if this is the case but I would imagine its because of the fit. It didn't work for the majority of people that were interested in it (at least in my experience). I would say wait and see what comes next :) 

 

Kyle 

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I was looking for a pair of sort of rugged casual AEs.  My go-to was the Ridgeway but it looks like I missed out on that since there are no more around.  Was really hoping to score a pair of Black Hills in black but all that is available is the Walnut and the Grey.  For anyone that hasn't tried them, the Black Hills are crazy comfortable.  Anyway, let's say these were my choices based on availability of shoebank and the retail store at this point:

Brooks Aberdeen (dark brown), Brooks San Marco (black), AE Kiowa, AE Nashua (all black), Black Hills (Walnut).  I prefer black or darker colors in general.

1.) Which do you think is the best choice of these, and 2.) Anyone have any experience with either the Brooks Aberdeen or the Kiowa?  I don't have much experience with the Brooks styles; I think I did try on one at some point and remember it being a much more snug fit due to the poron but didn't know if it was enough to justify a size change.  I love the look of the Kiowa but have no idea on the sizing.


I like my brown grain Kiowas.  (I also have a pair of Ridgeways.)  I also like the Brooks Brothers versions of AE shoes, as they often come with Poiron insoles and repp stripe tap soles.  For some bizarre reason, some Brooks Brothers versions of some AE shoes also come with leather/rubber heels, which I immediately replace with rubber heels.


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Less old manish? Probably the Norwich IMO. It wears well with suits (especially in shell) or dressed down. but.

The Norwich can be a real bear to fit properly. Because its on the 2 last, it gets pinchy in the toe, but then you have excess room around the throat that the strap can't take in when you size up. Obviously the black and brown calf are on clearance, which essentially means they're going away. I don't know if this is the case but I would imagine its because of the fit. It didn't work for the majority of people that were interested in it (at least in my experience). I would say wait and see what comes next smile.gif 

Kyle 

Thanks Kyle. There's a stray shell Norwich in my size at the Shoebank. Was thinking about it. I have a pair of eagle county boots on the 2 last, and they fit great, but not until several wears when the upper broke in and stretched out.

Obviously boots fit differently than monks, and shell doesn't stretch like calf, so who knows. Maybe I'll just give it a shot...
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Thanks Kyle. There's a stray shell Norwich in my size at the Shoebank. Was thinking about it. I have a pair of eagle county boots on the 2 last, and they fit great, but not until several wears when the upper broke in and stretched out.

Obviously boots fit differently than monks, and shell doesn't stretch like calf, so who knows. Maybe I'll just give it a shot...

I've said this a few times but I really can't get past the split welt on the Norwich. I think of single monk straps as sleek shoes. To me they are a derby with a buckle instead of laces. The split welt makes it look clunky, especially from the top down.

Also, AE is coming out with a new single monkstrap called the Warwick sometime this year I believe. You might want to hold out and see what that's like.
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

What's the story on the Norwich (I mean besides the whole 2 last thing). Anyone here have it? Like it?

Between Norwich and bradley, which would be more versatile? Less old mannish?

What do folks wear with either?


I have the Norwich in black, brown, and brown shell.  And I have a pair of Lubbocks which are pretty much the same thing as the Norwich except more casual looking.  These are my favorite shoes.  I have wide, flat feet.  I wear them in my normal size of 12E and they fit perfectly in length and width although I do cinch the straps up to the tightest notch--the shells were a little loose and I ended up putting another set of holes in the straps so I could cinch them up a little tighter.   I don't think that they are old mannish since I often get compliments on them from young hipster type men (I get the most compliments from women about my Finch blue and tan saddle shoes) but compliments on the Norwich seem to come from young guys.    

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I've said this a few times but I really can't get past the split welt on the Norwich. I think of single monk straps as sleek shoes. To me they are a derby with a buckle instead of laces. The split welt makes it look clunky, especially from the top down.

Also, AE is coming out with a new single monkstrap called the Warwick sometime this year I believe. You might want to hold out and see what that's like.


I'm just the opposite.  I like the welts and the double sole clunkiness of the Norwich.  The sleeker looking Franciscan doesn't appeal to me at all.  I will keep an eye out for this new Warwick.  

 

If the 222 last is what most people seem to have a problem with, maybe AE should make a double sole, split reverse welt monk strap on the same last that the Mctavish uses.  The McTavish doesn't seem to get a lot of complaints about the fit.

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I'm just the opposite.  I like the welts and the double sole clunkiness of the Norwich.  The sleeker looking Franciscan doesn't appeal to me at all.  I will keep an eye out for this new Warwick.  

 

If the 222 last is what most people seem to have a problem with, maybe AE should make a double sole, split reverse welt monk strap on the same last that the Mctavish uses.  The McTavish doesn't seem to get a lot of complaints about the fit.

 

Im with you! I really like the aesthetic of the reverse welt, etc on the Norwich. Like @NWTeal mentioned, there's a new single monk coming soon called the Warwick. It'll be built on a new last. Looking forward to seeing how it fits for sure. 

 

Kyle 

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