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I can't discern the welt issue that you mention, but as far as the streaking goes, if you dont like it, get a different one. It wouldn't bother me personally but its totally understandable if you don't like it.

 

kyle

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Originally Posted by garland View Post

I can't discern the welt issue that you mention, but as far as the streaking goes, if you dont like it, get a different one. It wouldn't bother me personally but its totally understandable if you don't like it.

kyle

Sorry about that. I didn't include an image of the welt. You can look back through my posts in this thread to see the image of the first pair I ordered, though. They had the same welt issue but didn't have any streaks.
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So I have a pretty standard size, 9D when I went to try on Allen Edmonds. I am someone who is about to enter the work world and would like a pair of black or dark brown Park Avenues to wear to formal events and occasions. Money is pretty tight and I have no issue buying preowned, but I know Allen Edmond shoes' craft around the original owner's feet. Anyone have a recommendation on where I need to go to buy these shoes and the price range I should realistically be looking to spend? I know Allen Edmond's has a decent sale in October or so but I always try to opt for used. Do I need to shell out the money for new or what does everyone think?

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The issues are minor to me, but I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a $400 shoe to be virtually flawless. I tend to think I'd accept the streak, but I've only paid full price for one pair of Allen Edmonds and those were MTO.
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Originally Posted by capegirr View Post

So I have a pretty standard size, 9D when I went to try on Allen Edmonds. I am someone who is about to enter the work world and would like a pair of black or dark brown Park Avenues to wear to formal events and occasions. Money is pretty tight and I have no issue buying preowned, but I know Allen Edmond shoes' craft around the original owner's feet. Anyone have a recommendation on where I need to go to buy these shoes and the price range I should realistically be looking to spend? I know Allen Edmond's has a decent sale in October or so but I always try to opt for used. Do I need to shell out the money for new or what does everyone think?

Just be patient and lurk in this thread for a while.

Familiarize yourself with Shoebank.com where you can buy brand new slightly flawed "factory seconds." During outlet sales, sometimes closeouts and brooks brothers branded versions of classics like strand or park Ave can get as low as 150$
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You should call and give someone at AE a list of all the styles and colors you like so that when they do a production run, they can make an extra pair for you.


that would be nice but they still charge extra because in some cases they have to make a pattern for the shoe and it is extra work. As far as I know they still can only do it for the classic styles, like Park Ave, Leeds, Macneil, Sanford, etc. 

 

That definitely is a good option for people who want something new in their size that they don't usually carry. You can just email or call them directly to ask. 

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Here's my 2 cents - the park ave / fifth ave / strand is a little tougher than some - it doesn't really go on sale so to speak outside of those periods already noted by the other members - RDA, etc.  The retail AE stores recently had a sale but only on bourbon - typically colors that most people would actually want - like black, won't go on sale.  Shoebank is definitely worthwhile in this case - sometimes I feel like AE retail clearance is so close to shoebank that shoebank is a waste, but for something like the park ave I think shoebank can save you a lot of money.  The fifth ave usually runs slightly less than the park ave if you don't mind the extra perforations.  Jos A Bank sells the Boardroom which does occasionally go on sale.  Similarly, Brooks Bros sells the "Perforated Captoe" (Fifth Ave) which also goes on sale  If you have never tried the various lasts I would get some idea and not plan on a blind-buy (for example, the Jos A Bank shoe is on the 97 last which is quite different than the standard 65).  Unfortunately you kind of missed the boat by not buying from Brooks Bros right after Christmas.  You may need to wait a while longer.

 

Hope this helps - feel free to ask anything else, I shall do my best.

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Now for a question of my own - I actually posted this in a separate thread but will repeat it here.  I measure a 7.5D but usually shoes are elongated to the point where I go with a 7D.  My width is between C and D.  I have tried on almost all the lasts and have kind of figured out what length and width works in each.  My biggest problem has always been length - too long and my legs ache after any moderate amount of walking.  Too short and my toes are smashed in to the point where my big toes hurt after a short period.

 

But, what sometimes shows up is on my right foot, the joint at the base of my big toe is somehow aggravated by the shoe, to the point where it puffs/swells up and results in excruciating pain.  Unfortunately this doesn't show up until I wear the shoe for a full work day, like 10+ hours at once.  My Daltons produced a killer pain in this joint area at first.  I wound up wearing them with the thickest socks I could find (like wool hiking socks), enduring crazy amounts of pain, and then finally switching back to dress socks.  This seems to have worked, although not 100%.  I just started to really wear my Jermyns and the pain in that joint is back, stronger than ever, to the point where I am dying to take them off as soon as I get home, as I can't stand them for another minute.  I tried the thick socks approach, followed by thin socks, and it seems to be working, so far.

 

What is it that causes this - is it that the lasts aren't good for me?  The lengths and widths seem ok.  Is it stiff leather?  Instep?  Or something else entirely.  Curious to hear Mr. Size 15's perspective, if he is around.

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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
 

Now for a question of my own - I actually posted this in a separate thread but will repeat it here.  I measure a 7.5D but usually shoes are elongated to the point where I go with a 7D.  My width is between C and D.  I have tried on almost all the lasts and have kind of figured out what length and width works in each.  My biggest problem has always been length - too long and my legs ache after any moderate amount of walking.  Too short and my toes are smashed in to the point where my big toes hurt after a short period.

 

But, what sometimes shows up is on my right foot, the joint at the base of my big toe is somehow aggravated by the shoe, to the point where it puffs/swells up and results in excruciating pain.  Unfortunately this doesn't show up until I wear the shoe for a full work day, like 10+ hours at once.  My Daltons produced a killer pain in this joint area at first.  I wound up wearing them with the thickest socks I could find (like wool hiking socks), enduring crazy amounts of pain, and then finally switching back to dress socks.  This seems to have worked, although not 100%.  I just started to really wear my Jermyns and the pain in that joint is back, stronger than ever, to the point where I am dying to take them off as soon as I get home, as I can't stand them for another minute.  I tried the thick socks approach, followed by thin socks, and it seems to be working, so far.

 

What is it that causes this - is it that the lasts aren't good for me?  The lengths and widths seem ok.  Is it stiff leather?  Instep?  Or something else entirely.  Curious to hear Mr. Size 15's perspective, if he is around.


I think width may be too narrow for you. When you step forward, the foot slides forward in the shoe, and the forefoot expands. The shoe may fit fine when your foot is off the ground, but the foot may need more room in the front when you walk.  I experienced similar problems and going up in width solved the problem. Shoes should not be uncomfortable when you walk in them.

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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post

Here's my 2 cents - the park ave / fifth ave / strand is a little tougher than some - it doesn't really go on sale so to speak outside of those periods already noted by the other members - RDA, etc.  The retail AE stores recently had a sale but only on bourbon - typically colors that most people would actually want - like black, won't go on sale.  Shoebank is definitely worthwhile in this case - sometimes I feel like AE retail clearance is so close to shoebank that shoebank is a waste, but for something like the park ave I think shoebank can save you a lot of money.  The fifth ave usually runs slightly less than the park ave if you don't mind the extra perforations.  Jos A Bank sells the Boardroom which does occasionally go on sale.  Similarly, Brooks Bros sells the "Perforated Captoe" (Fifth Ave) which also goes on sale  If you have never tried the various lasts I would get some idea and not plan on a blind-buy (for example, the Jos A Bank shoe is on the 97 last which is quite different than the standard 65).  Unfortunately you kind of missed the boat by not buying from Brooks Bros right after Christmas.  You may need to wait a while longer.

Hope this helps - feel free to ask anything else, I shall do my best.

AE Anniversary sale is in April/May, and McAllister seems to be reduced to around 250 every year, along with favorites like Mora and Lexington and Franciscan.

Nordstrom Anniversary in July ALWAYS includes Park Ave and Strand.

But for the deepest discount, u can't beat buying BB seconds during a Shoebank sale.
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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
 

Now for a question of my own - I actually posted this in a separate thread but will repeat it here.  I measure a 7.5D but usually shoes are elongated to the point where I go with a 7D.  My width is between C and D.  I have tried on almost all the lasts and have kind of figured out what length and width works in each.  My biggest problem has always been length - too long and my legs ache after any moderate amount of walking.  Too short and my toes are smashed in to the point where my big toes hurt after a short period.

 

But, what sometimes shows up is on my right foot, the joint at the base of my big toe is somehow aggravated by the shoe, to the point where it puffs/swells up and results in excruciating pain.  Unfortunately this doesn't show up until I wear the shoe for a full work day, like 10+ hours at once.  My Daltons produced a killer pain in this joint area at first.  I wound up wearing them with the thickest socks I could find (like wool hiking socks), enduring crazy amounts of pain, and then finally switching back to dress socks.  This seems to have worked, although not 100%.  I just started to really wear my Jermyns and the pain in that joint is back, stronger than ever, to the point where I am dying to take them off as soon as I get home, as I can't stand them for another minute.  I tried the thick socks approach, followed by thin socks, and it seems to be working, so far.

 

What is it that causes this - is it that the lasts aren't good for me?  The lengths and widths seem ok.  Is it stiff leather?  Instep?  Or something else entirely.  Curious to hear Mr. Size 15's perspective, if he is around.

 

Is Mr. Size 15 in reference to me? haha

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Originally Posted by gatszu View Post
 


I think width may be too narrow for you. When you step forward, the foot slides forward in the shoe, and the forefoot expands. The shoe may fit fine when your foot is off the ground, but the foot may need more room in the front when you walk.  I experienced similar problems and going up in width solved the problem. Shoes should not be uncomfortable when you walk in them.

 

I agree with @gatszu. The width may be too narrow for you. It can feel okay but then as your feet swell during the day they can start to become tight. Plus certain foot types will drop in the arch (pronating) and over the day the front of your foot can become irritated by the hitting close to the front. It is always best to try the shoes on at the end of the day or at least late afternoon to factor in the swelling. If you are having a problem due to this, using a width larger can help to fix the problem. If they are a bit wide at that point, you can always use a thicker sock or insert a leather insole or tongue pad to make up for the difference in fit. 

 

You also need to think about what has happened when you go down a 1/2 in length. That now changes the width of the shoe. If you are a 7.5D and move down to a 7 in length, you need to get a 7E to keep the same overall width/volume. In the end, the Brannock device is only a guideline, because each company's lasts vary in size. Even the lasts by AE vary in much more than just the toe shape. They have completely different fits if you haven't noticed this by trying a bunch of the different styles already.

 

 

If you are having a problem with your big toe joint (1st Metatarsal-Phalangeal Joint) you could have a jamming that is happening at the joint. Have you tried to move your big toe when barefoot and compared your range of motion (ROM) between your two feet. If you have decreased ROM on one foot more and that one is what is causing more pain, that can be the problem. 

 

It is possible that the lasts can be the problem, because certain shapes just don't work for certain foot types. The instep size can be a problem for some people but only if you have a really high instep, which usually won't affect the big toe joint. 

 

Think about those few things and let me know what you notice. I can advise in a few other things from there if that helps.

 

I'm sure others would agree in that you could even take a few pics wearing the shoes and post them on here for us to comment on the apparent fit. 

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I exchanged the pair I had, and received these. Not happy with the quality.

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Looks like there's some truffle and walnut shell on the marketplace....

Edit: Not referring to my listings.
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I exchanged the pair I had, and received these. Not happy with the quality.

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I am sorry to see those, they should take a return on that and get you a decent pair. I would call them and make sure that they actually visually inspect the shoe before shipping to you.

 

-Mike

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I exchanged the pair I had, and received these. Not happy with the quality.

are these first or seconds? either way, i would send this picture to the rep that sent you these shoes. the stitching looks too sloppy as if the shoemaker was just cranking out shoes without regards to the broader details.  

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