ok. this may not be a question to be asked at this thread, but i still can't find a good answer after searching on the site.
So here it is,
I just got the randolph in 11D in the mail yesterday and when i tried them, my heels felt loose, but the width is fine.
I did went into a store and tried on both 10.5D and 11D. In the 10.5D, my ball feels a little tight when I was trying them on and i have to fight a little to get my foot into the shoe. But my heel didn't feel as loose as 11D, but still just a slight loose.
when I tried on the 11D, it's really comfortable everywhere and I didn't have to fight to get my foot into the shoe.
I measured a 10.5D in store with my toe touching, or just a little over that 10.5 line.
But when I asked the SA, he told me 10.5D should stretch over time and he told me it really depends on person fit but i just want a nice fit. Because when he tried to pinch my toe he said he really couldn't tell a difference in the two sizes.
P.S. I also tried on the player shoe where I find my feet very happy in a 10.5E, if that helps.
Should I go back and exchange for a 10.5D and let the stretch do the magic? or 11D is just fine, and the heel slip will go away as I break in the shoes?
guys, on the walden or westchester loafer, are you guys sizing down to prevent heel slip? In length, width, or both?
I have the Westchesters, I can not recommend strongly enough that you try on various sizes before buying. That shoe is much different than most AEs, even others on the same last. I am a 10 in all AEs, I wish I would have sized up for the Westchesters. They have been pretty brutal, tough to break in and don't seem to stretch as much as other AEs.
It's really a trial and error thing. After trying a few different methods, I got a system that gave me the results that I wanted. There's a youtube video in that link that describes fairly closely my method, he calls it 'bulling'.