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This is what my MTO (rubber soles and heels) Bourbon Park Avenues looks like after over a dozen polishings with Kiwi Neutral Wax (the stuff in a tin) and then brushing and polishing with the black shoe brush and the black shoe polishing cloth, both of which probably have some residual black polish on them......

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Originally Posted by Roycru View Post

This is what my MTO (rubber soles and heels) Bourbon Park Avenues looks like after over a dozen polishings with Kiwi Neutral Wax (the stuff in a tin) and then brushing and polishing with the black shoe brush and the black shoe polishing cloth, both of which probably have some residual black polish on them......


those look really nice to my eye...the trademark bourbon color is all but completely gone, judging by that pic...but instead it seems to have taken on its own unique truly burnished walnut color...i suspect this is where my bourbons are headed at this rate. As it stands, right now, they are just kind of a flat shade of medium brown, thanks to the bourbon polish ive been using.
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I also have a confession to make....i had went out and bought a tin of neutral kiwi wax (in the beige tin)...i had already been using bourbon polish for a few polishings, before it occured to me (from reading this thread, i think) to purchase the neutral wax, to try to preserve what was remaining of the bourbon hue...but even since i stopped using the AE Bourbon polish, i STILL cant get that kind of shine on my shoes.. (any of them really)...what are you doing to get such a pristine shine like that?
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The Bourbon shoes are still a different color than any of my Walnut shoes.  They are "browner", probably because of the black burnishing.  If you want to make some areas "blacker", you might want to try doing what AE does, and adding a little black polish on your black shoe brush (AE uses their black polishing wheels) and brush the areas that you would like to make more "Bourbony" looking.

I use a brush and then a cloth, and after enough polishing, the shoes start to look the way most of my shoes do. (Some still haven't been polished enough times).

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

Reason I stated that and I was not meaning to come off as a jerk but I guess I did now that I reread what I wrote - I looked at that finish and saw it as a layered finish when I got my bourbon Dalton's akin to looking at a piece of marble so the only thing that is going to come out of a colored  tube/tin/jar is a solid color and if applying a solid color then it is going to make the shoe a solid color. Worse still it sounds like the polish if applied to firmly seemed to strip away the burnishing in your case.

I have three pair of Bourbons and just treat with neutral polish. None of them get worn more than a few times a month so the finish has stayed very nice on them.

Kahuna, I think regular readers of this forum realized that you meant no offense. But I completely agree with your point about the burnishing - I think it would be helpful if AE was a little clearer about exactly what their Oxblood and Bourbon (and I also think Bob's Chili) are, and that it will be very difficult for someone to maintain that color. I think you either have to go the neutral polish route or just be resigned that your shoes will change color over time. That's also why I have avoided those colors myself.
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I am looking to pick up a pair of walnut Strands for my first AE pair, but would prefer not to pay $385 if possible. 

I don't know if you're interested, but the last time I was in the Destin, Fla. factory store they had boxes of walnut Brooks Brothers Strands on sale for (I think) $199. I don't know if they were firsts or seconds, but it might be worth an email or call to see about availability:

Allen Edmonds
10406 West Emerald Coast Parkway, Ste. 67,
Destin, Florida, 32550-7105, USA
850-654-4790
destin@allenedmonds.com

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if i was supposed know to stay away from bourbon shoe polish for my bourbon colored shoes, or what, but now that i know whatall is entailed in polishing the bourbons and oxbloods

I've had a different experience with my bourbon Strands using the bourbon polish. I have polished them pretty vigorously and have yet to see a change in the burnishing and overall color.

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Recently, freshly polished after months of polishing:




I wonder where the difference lies. I also can't help but wonder if I've just been lucky so far, and that I should perhaps switch to neutral while I still have a solid, original bourbon finish.

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You're making me even more excited for my Oxblood First Avenues.

It's a great color! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by CMT1 View Post

I don't know if you're interested, but the last time I was in the Destin, Fla. factory store they had boxes of walnut Brooks Brothers Strands on sale for (I think) $199. I don't know if they were firsts or seconds, but it might be worth an email or call to see about availability:

Allen Edmonds
10406 West Emerald Coast Parkway, Ste. 67,
Destin, Florida, 32550-7105, USA
850-654-4790
destin@allenedmonds.com
I've had a different experience with my bourbon Strands using the bourbon polish. I have polished them pretty vigorously and have yet to see a change in the burnishing and overall color.

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Recently, freshly polished after months of polishing:




I wonder where the difference lies. I also can't help but wonder if I've just been lucky so far, and that I should perhaps switch to neutral while I still have a solid, original bourbon finish.
It's a great color! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

The second pic is EXACTLY how my moras look now...just kind of a darker, flatter shade of medium brown...its still a nice, color, but its not the Bourbon color i had initially come to like...in my opinion, this color change is going to be much less noticeable on a highly brogued shoe such as the strand....i know for my moras, which have comparably fewer visual obstructions on the uppers, the flatter, more monotone shade of brown is alot more noticeable to my eye..on a shoe like the strand, it would seem to me that there are more visual breaks, in the form of broguing, perfing etc, to the consistent coloring of the upper for the change to appear as anything other than a deeper shade of the original bourbon on each piece of leather...idk, but that was my theory on it...because even on Roycru's PA's, to me the loss of the original bourbon (in favor of a really cool shade of a kind of dark burnished walnut), is pretty apparent for me..but then again, they, like the Mora, dont have many visual breaks in the upper. Again, just my theory on it.

Stellar looking strands btw.
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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

The second pic is EXACTLY how my moras look now...just kind of a darker, flatter shade of medium brown...its still a nice, color, but its not the Bourbon color i had initially come to like..

Stellar looking strands btw.

Thanks! One problem with both of my shots above is that they used a bounce flash, and while they do show the color of the shoe, it's really the color they shine in abundant light. I just pulled my Strands out of the closet and took a new shot without the flash:




Another shot that represents their current color in interior light, no flash:




Is this also what yours look like once the light gets a bit low? I ask only because my shoes haven't changed color since pulling them out of the box, at least not to my eye, but you may be on to something in that the color change may not be as perceptible with the Strand.
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I would say yours look a bit darker than mine are right now...i think i may have been using TOO much bourbon polish..because looking at this second set of pics, yours look darker and shinier, but they they dont have as much color as mine...this is something i could only attribute to the fact that i probably layer a new coat of "bourbon" over the previous with each polishing, rather than the minimalist approach of shining up, what was already there...but idk...but to answer your question, yours look darker than the shade of bourbon i currently have, there in this second set of pics
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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

I would say yours look a bit darker than mine are right now...i think i may have been using TOO much bourbon polish..because looking at this second set of pics, yours look darker and shinier, but they they dont have as much color as mine... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
this is something i could only attribute to the fact that i probably layer a new coat of "bourbon" over the previous with each polishing, rather than the minimalist approach of shining up, what was already there...but idk...but to answer your question, yours look darker than the shade of bourbon i currently have, there in this second set of pics


It's easy to chalk it up to the impossibility of getting an ideal sense of color from pictures, or set of pictures, coupled with the variance of bourbon from shoe to shoe. My friend's bourbon McTavish are a slightly different color than my bourbon Strands, and seem to have a bit more green to the color.

As far as polishing out the color goes, I am definitely going to be wary of this going forward. I had planned to use neutral polish on my new oxblood Daltons and will switch the Strands over to this program as well.
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It's easy to chalk it up to the impossibility of getting an ideal sense of color from pictures, or set of pictures, coupled with the variance of bourbon from shoe to shoe. My friend's bourbon McTavish are a slightly different color than my bourbon Strands, and seem to have a bit more green to the color.

As far as polishing out the color goes, I am definitely going to be wary of this going forward. I had planned to use neutral polish on my new oxblood Daltons and will switch the Strands over to this program as well.
yeah, and thats really partly what i mean when i say that mine have more color than his...mine have a more dark reddish tone to them, rather than that dark yellowish/green undertone they had when i originally took ownership of them.
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You guys see any probs with the creasing on these daltons? Im a size 11 on the branock but these are 10.5.







11d was too big, these are 10.5e and seem to fit well. I have an 11b on the way.
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You guys see any probs with the creasing on these daltons? Im a size 11 on the branock but these are 10.5.









11d was too big, these are 10.5e and seem to fit well. I have an 11b on the way.

They look fine to me
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Pretty excited about picking up a pair of shell PA burgundy seconds for net $349 from the Jeff'ville OH outlet! Kristle there said they look perfect! Will post pics upon arrival and I hope they fit!!
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There's been an ongoing soap opera that I've enjoyed watching over the past 6 months.

There's been one hapless pair of black ostrich delrays in my size in Shoebank inventory forever. Every so often, when the outlets run a sale, it disappears. But eventually, the prodigal ostrich always wanders back.

I try to imagine someone in my unusual size looks at the inventory during a sale, and thinks, "hey, nows a good time to get my hands on an exotic for an affordable price! How bad could it be?"

And considering that the flaw must be bad enough to send it back EVERY SINGLE TIME, my mind always wonders what it could possibly be. The curiosity is building to a fever pitch. I'm pretty darn close to ordering it myself, just to see what's so damn wrong with the footwear. It might be worth the $10 just to satisfy the curiosity....

 

FYI, I haven't ordered them yet, but I have been wondering when they'll disappear for good.  I might be interested if they were walnut, bourbon, or chili, but not terribly interested in black Delrays, no matter what the leather.

 

Also, no keyrings in Philadelphia, but they did have beer. Not complaining ;-)

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