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Originally Posted by Snoogz View Post
 

This reads very fussy.  I would suggest if you are that picky about the slightest imperfection, you look elsewhere in a shoe maker.  A company that does not leave any imperfections on the showroom floor.  But, for that, you will be looking at three times  AE price point.

Thank you for your response. I actually really appreciate this type of feedback. I didn't mean to come off as fussy, but I see exactly how you got that impression. I guess what I was trying to gather is: am I overreacting to this one small imperfection? Given your response, would you be satisfied with this pair of boots? I'm going to keep them, but I just want to see what others' thoughts are.

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I think this occasion calls for a MacNeil family portrait:

 

 

* top row, left to right:  black shell, burgundy shell, MTO brown shell

* bottom row, left to right:  MTO black CXL, MTO brown CXL, chili grain (for Brooks Brothers), walnut grain

 

Amazing collection!  :worship2:

post #49983 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post
 

So I just picked up my long awaited Daltons from my local shop. There's one thing that is bothering me because I am very picky on the slightest imperfections of my shoes. I think I'm still gonna keep them just because I don't really have the time to have another pair made as I am leaving the country soon. However, I'd like your opinions on whether or not you guys would be satisfied with this pair of boots if it were your own.

This reads very fussy.  I would suggest if you are that picky about the slightest imperfection, you look elsewhere in a shoe maker.  A company that does not leave any imperfections on the showroom floor.  But, for that, you will be looking at three times  AE price point.

 

^ Very well said.

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Originally Posted by Snoogz View Post
 

This reads very fussy.  I would suggest if you are that picky about the slightest imperfection, you look elsewhere in a shoe maker.  A company that does not leave any imperfections on the showroom floor.  But, for that, you will be looking at three times  AE price point.

i was just gonna say - i thought i was really picky about the slightest imperfections about shoes until i looked up the price of eg's.  then i quickly and warmly embraced the imperfections of allen edmonds seconds!

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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post

Thank you for your response. I actually really appreciate this type of feedback. I didn't mean to come off as fussy, but I see exactly how you got that impression. I guess what I was trying to gather is: am I overreacting to this one small imperfection? Given your response, would you be satisfied with this pair of boots? I'm going to keep them, but I just want to see what others' thoughts are.

I understand how you feel but when you buy seconds like myself you learn to just ignore them. My strands were seconds and there were some imperfections in the leather but nothing no one would or myself would notice unless I kept staring at em.

They're just shoes at the end of the day
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^ Very well said.

 

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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post
 

Thank you for your response. I actually really appreciate this type of feedback. I didn't mean to come off as fussy, but I see exactly how you got that impression. I guess what I was trying to gather is: am I overreacting to this one small imperfection? Given your response, would you be satisfied with this pair of boots? I'm going to keep them, but I just want to see what others' thoughts are.

 

 

 

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i was just gonna say - i thought i was really picky about the slightest imperfections about shoes until i looked up the price of eg's.  then i quickly and warmly embraced the imperfections of allen edmonds seconds!

I would have no problem at all if these were seconds, but they're not and that's why I brought it up here. However, BootSpell and Snoogz have given me the impression that I've overreacted, and I'm 100% fine with that knowledge. Like I said, I was just curious to see what you guys would do if you were in my situation. How about yourself, though? If these were yours and they weren't seconds would you, too, keep them?

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I understand how you feel but when you buy seconds like myself you learn to just ignore them. My strands were seconds and there were some imperfections in the leather but nothing no one would or myself would notice unless I kept staring at em.

They're just shoes at the end of the day

I see where you're coming from, I've just always bought firsts (these boots, too, are firsts by the way), so that's why I'm here trying to gather some input from you guys. Also, I believe I still owe you a fit picture of my Fullertons.

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I would have no problem at all if these were seconds, but they're not and that's why I brought it up here. However, BootSpell and Snoogz have given me the impression that I've overreacted, and I'm 100% fine with that knowledge. Like I said, I was just curious to see what you guys would do if you were in my situation. How about yourself, though? If these were yours and they weren't seconds would you, too, keep them?

 

The best rule of thumb I know of is, if it's gonna bug you every time you look down at them, return them.  What I'm seeing in your boots probably wouldn't bug me - but that's me.

 

I will also say that what bugs me has changed over time.  Certain things now bug me more than they used to, and certain other things less.

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post
 

 

^ Very well said.

 

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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post
 

Thank you for your response. I actually really appreciate this type of feedback. I didn't mean to come off as fussy, but I see exactly how you got that impression. I guess what I was trying to gather is: am I overreacting to this one small imperfection? Given your response, would you be satisfied with this pair of boots? I'm going to keep them, but I just want to see what others' thoughts are.

 

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Originally Posted by doctorman View Post
 

i was just gonna say - i thought i was really picky about the slightest imperfections about shoes until i looked up the price of eg's.  then i quickly and warmly embraced the imperfections of allen edmonds seconds!

I would have no problem at all if these were seconds, but they're not and that's why I brought it up here. However, BootSpell and Snoogz have given me the impression that I've overreacted, and I'm 100% fine with that knowledge. Like I said, I was just curious to see what you guys would do if you were in my situation. How about yourself, though? If these were yours and they weren't seconds would you, too, keep them?

 

TG, I know how you feel.  I also am a pretty picky OCD kind of guy.  As @doctorman says, for the price point of AEs, you can't expect the quality, attention to detail and finishing that you would get for brands costing at least twice as much.  I don't know how long you've been buying shoes/boots at this price point or even higher, but you eventually get a sense of what to expect at the various levels.

 

I actually owned a pair of the burgundy shell Daltons.  I returned the first pair because they had problems way worse than yours (stitching coming apart, etc.).  Even the replacement pair was not as nice as yours seem to be.  I sold them because I found I just didn't wear them.

 

From what I can see of yours, they are pretty pristine.  Enjoy them!

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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post




I would have no problem at all if these were seconds, but they're not and that's why I brought it up here. However, BootSpell and Snoogz have given me the impression that I've overreacted, and I'm 100% fine with that knowledge. Like I said, I was just curious to see what you guys would do if you were in my situation. How about yourself, though? If these were yours and they weren't seconds would you, too, keep them?

Absolutely keep them. As others have have said, if you want better artisanship, pay for nicer shoes. Even brands a step or two above AE in price like Alden and Carmina aren't gping to be perfect. For perfection, you're looking at EG, JL, GG, etc.

I understand these boots aren't cheap, but that's almost entirely due to the cost of cordovan.
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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post
 

 

 

 

 

I would have no problem at all if these were seconds, but they're not and that's why I brought it up here. However, BootSpell and Snoogz have given me the impression that I've overreacted, and I'm 100% fine with that knowledge. Like I said, I was just curious to see what you guys would do if you were in my situation. How about yourself, though? If these were yours and they weren't seconds would you, too, keep them?

that's a fair question and i really had to think about it.  i would keep them. but that's just me... i actually like the fact things are just not made perfect and it gives them characters.  

 

i'm definitely not here to "judge" you - my earlier response is just a poor attempt of humor.  your should-i-keep-it question comes up once every month or so and there is not a right answer.  but i buy allen edmonds expecting the imperfections that i won't see from eg. so expectation is probably everything...

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I tend to keep shoes new for a while before I wear them in the wild.  I may put them on for a hour now and again on the carpet to break them in and to check for unobvious structural flaws.  I'm pretty nitpicky about the shoes when they're brand new.  However, once I wear them in the wild, my tolerance level increases.  I actually find it amusing.  Once you start wearing your shoes, shit happens.  The tiny imperfections become less important.  Even with the utmost care and best intentions, they'll get creased and scuffed and scratched and wrinkled.  The moral of the story: Buy shoes that you like and enjoy them.  They are just shoes.


Edited by FatTuesday - 10/2/14 at 6:45pm
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They look great can not wait for the GMTO

 

+1

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So what's the official word (or consistent past practice) about Shoebank seconds when the RDA begins?  Are they similarly discounted?  Is that 15% across the board, or does it vary?

post #49995 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post
 

So I just picked up my long awaited Daltons from my local shop. There's one thing that is bothering me because I am very picky on the slightest imperfections of my shoes. I think I'm still gonna keep them just because I don't really have the time to have another pair made as I am leaving the country soon. However, I'd like your opinions on whether or not you guys would be satisfied with this pair of boots if it were your own.

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I would not pay first quality price ($725 + taxes) for these. You pay for first and should receive first quality footwear. The medallion on the right shoe is also messy. Those, I would accept as seconds, but definitely not first.

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