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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

Interesting feedback....it seems like allen edmonds are a decent enough shoe for the retail price, but once you start a comparison/ competition between Allen Edmonds and any other shoe brands aside from kenneth cole and cole haan, Allen Edmonds loses the comparison/competition almost invariably and across the board. So basically, if any other, even half decent, shoe maker begins to produce shoes in multiple widths, Allen Edmonds would likely be staring at bankruptcy. ..which sounds like allen edmonds, in many instances, is a value due to lack of options rather than any inherently superior craftsmanship.

I would disagree with this.  A few pages back someone posted a link to a guy who did a "tear down" of multiple shoe brands, including John Lobb.  What he basically found was (at least in his opinion) that the Allen Edmonds were on the same level of quality as other, more expensive brands (but they lacked the obvious signs of hand made shoes).  I view shoes in three tiers: Cole Haan/Kenneth Cole/Johnston & Murphy; Allen Edmonds; then the really expensive brands.  However, in terms of quality I personally place Allen Edmonds right up there with the best.  They are by far the highest quality shoes I've ever worn and look much, much better than just about all other shoes I see guys wearing at work.  They have a customer for life in me.  

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My first foray into the seconds market didn't go quite as well as anticipated. On the upside, this will be better for my wallet.

I ordered a pair of chilli carlyles, but the burnishing on one is almost tiger striped. It was very noticeable in my bedroom, which is poorly lit, so in office lighting I think they'll look ridiculous (my wife noticed the flaw immediately).

Still tempted to pick up a pair of seconds gridirons before the sale ends, as it's a bit niche of a shoe for me to drop $300 on, but I'm a little gunshy now. I'm on mobile and can't figure out how to upload multiple pics, but below is a side by side. I took it I'm the bathroom where the lighting is more bold, but it's still more subtle in the pic than in person. Am I being too picky? I was expecting a scuff or deep scratch in the leather, but for $219+tax this is a deal breaker for me.

I had the  same issue with a pair of bourbon kenilworths. I emailed Allison about it, and she provided me with a shipping label free of charge. I sent them to her, and she had them refinished, again, free of charge.

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post
 

While the ingredients in VSC are not totally known it is known that it contains turpentine, as does Reno. Ron Rider recommends Reno and Nick Horween likes VSC for shell so I don't think turpentine is as much of an issue as some think. Of course used in small amounts and not too often. I use very little product on my shell and gave away my Saphir neutral cordovan cream I could get as good of a shine with just Reno, water and brushing.

 

Agree.

 

Alright, I'll give some Reno a shot then. The Dundee's are my first regularly worn shells so kind of the learning platform. I'll use a small amount and see how that goes.

 

Thanks.

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Just took my bourbon Daltons out of the box to try on just to check the fit as I have not looked at them in 3 plus months. I have to say with all the boots out there I have been looking at and buying it really is spectacular.

There are only two or three other boots I have seen that I would rather own over it and they are a hell of a lot more money.

Vass longwing from NMWA..
Alden #8 NST from leffot
Edward Green navy leather calf Galloway boot.
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

I had the  same issue with a pair of bourbon kenilworths. I emailed Allison about it, and she provided me with a shipping label free of charge. I sent them to her, and she had them refinished, again, free of charge.
If this is true (I have no reason to assume otherwise) then AE might need more of my money. I stand by companies who are willing to stand by their products.
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That's the color difference if anyone was interested.
Edited by aglose - 8/31/14 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

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Originally Posted by Michael Haines View Post

Guys back when Paul first opened up the MTO order I did one Cappacino Shell Leeds and one Brown shell Bayfield in mini lug sole boot both 11e well both have had maybe 5 wears and I have to thin out the herd. I been running lots edward green, vass, and viberg through and wife says something has to go. What I need help with is what should I be asking for these shoes in fantastic condition.

hmmm.  I wear a 10.5 3E on the 5 last. I wonder if I could fit that Leeds. Did you figure out a price? Perhaps I could stop by an AE store this week to get fitted...


Dibs on the bayfield, peppercorn.
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Renovateur really is a superior product (I know I'm preaching to the choir here).

Last night, my band played an outdoor wedding in Sag Harbor, and I was stuck standing in the dirt and weeds behind the very small stage.

After the gig, my Neumoras were caked in dirt and dust and grass (and a snail).

This afternoon, I simply wiped all the dirt and debris with a damp cloth, applied a light coat of Reno, and buffed moderately, and my trusty #2 pair of AEs were back in fighting shape!






And just because the sunlight was so purdy, I couldn't resist taking out my oft-neglected cordovan Strands for a little brushing, since they were looking a mite bloomy.



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OK.  I am polishing shoes for the first time in my life.  

I got my walnut cloud Park Ave.  

I applied 2 coats of shoe cream.  

And I started applying brown shoe polish because I wanted it to turn little darker.

Well…  It came out dark.  I kind of like it.

Well…. the color is uneven..  I kind of like it but the problem is I can't seem to make the place I want darker darker.   lol.   I can make it lighter by taking the polish off with the sponge applicator.

Am I applying too much at a time?

Does anyone 'dig' the uneven polish job?  

I feel lost somewhat.

 

You can see what color I started with by looking at the tongue.  

Is rubbing alcohol the best way to strip the polish to start over?

 

Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by nomos View Post
 

OK.  I am polishing shoes for the first time in my life.  

I got my walnut cloud Park Ave.  

I applied 2 coats of shoe cream.  

And I started applying brown shoe polish because I wanted it to turn little darker.

Well…  It came out dark.  I kind of like it.

Well…. the color is uneven..  I kind of like it but the problem is I can't seem to make the place I want darker darker.   lol.   I can make it lighter by taking the polish off with the sponge applicator.

Am I applying too much at a time?

Does anyone 'dig' the uneven polish job?  

I feel lost somewhat.

 

You can see what color I started with by looking at the tongue.  

Is rubbing alcohol the best way to strip the polish to start over?

 

Thanks in advance.

Not sure what the cloud walnut looks like, but it looks to me that there is too much product in there now. The basic TLC process is cleaning->conditioning->drying->polishing with drying and a lot of brushing in between the steps, then of course buffing at the end. In my experience when applying products the mantra "less is more works".

 

There is a lot of information in the shoe care thread too.

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Was looking for a pair of burgundy loafers. First pair of shell cordovan. AE Westchester





The left shoe to me looks a little lighter than the right. Is this normal for shell? They are 1st quality, not seconds.

Your thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Billyboy316 View Post

Was looking for a pair of burgundy loafers. First pair of shell cordovan. AE Westchester





The left shoe to me looks a little lighter than the right. Is this normal for shell? They are 1st quality, not seconds.

Your thoughts?

Not too unusual. Each shell takes color differently. You can see on these strands that the different leather cuts must have been clicked from different shells:



But, if it bothers you, then def send back for a replacement. It's a $650 shoe, and you should be happy with it.
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

Not too unusual. Each shell takes color differently. You can see on these strands that the different leather cuts must have been clicked from different shells:



But, if it bothers you, then def send back for a replacement. It's a $650 shoe, and you should be happy with it.


Thanks peppercorn. I love the shell Shell Strands in brown.
The coloring on mine does not bother me as much as the low vamp. I am used to a higher vamp loafer, like my Carlsbad and Walton. I did not realize this when I bought them (bought over the net (closeouts)...got the size right though).

I am going to call AE in the morning to see what they can do.
If they can't do anything for me, I will probably see who wants them here. Want to make sure they find a good home smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post

I would disagree with this.  A few pages back someone posted a link to a guy who did a "tear down" of multiple shoe brands, including John Lobb.  What he basically found was (at least in his opinion) that the Allen Edmonds were on the same level of quality as other, more expensive brands (but they lacked the obvious signs of hand made shoes).  I view shoes in three tiers: Cole Haan/Kenneth Cole/Johnston & Murphy; Allen Edmonds; then the really expensive brands.  However, in terms of quality I personally place Allen Edmonds right up there with the best.  They are by far the highest quality shoes I've ever worn and look much, much better than just about all other shoes I see guys wearing at work.  They have a customer for life in me.  

I havent seen the teardown before, but this is how I feel as well...its quite apparent, according to the consensus ive read, that there are undoubtedly much better quality and better looking shoe brands than allen edmonds...but I can say that, in all candor I honestly love the brand myself...It fits my conservative style of dress very well, so ill likely be a lifelong customer as well. Ive got a great rapport with my local allen edmonds retail store, and i love going their to browse their new releases, and my main point person at that store is always really nice to me.

And ive seen a couple of other people on the elevator in my building at work who were wearing Allen Edmonds, and despite their inferior quality to most other dress shoe makers, they looked nice to my eye...there was one older gentleman who had on what looked a walnut park avenue...I instantly recognized it for its dreaded and oft-maligned stubby toe cap...but they honestly looked very good on him...not modern or trendy, but good enough to compliment the rest of his suit nicely. And I know that there are alot of lawyers and executives of engineering firms in my building, so I figure if they will stoop to wearing allen edmonds in place of john lobb, St. Crispins, edward green, or G&G and can be satisfied with their footwear, why wouldnt I.
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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post

I would disagree with this.  A few pages back someone posted a link to a guy who did a "tear down" of multiple shoe brands, including John Lobb.  What he basically found was (at least in his opinion) that the Allen Edmonds were on the same level of quality as other, more expensive brands (but they lacked the obvious signs of hand made shoes).  I view shoes in three tiers: Cole Haan/Kenneth Cole/Johnston & Murphy; Allen Edmonds; then the really expensive brands.  However, in terms of quality I personally place Allen Edmonds right up there with the best.  They are by far the highest quality shoes I've ever worn and look much, much better than just about all other shoes I see guys wearing at work.  They have a customer for life in me.  

That poster was me - I compiled the tear downs
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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

I havent seen the teardown before, but this is how I feel as well...its quite apparent, according to the consensus ive read, that there are undoubtedly much better quality and better looking shoe brands than allen edmonds...but I can say that, in all candor I honestly love the brand myself...It fits my conservative style of dress very well, so ill likely be a lifelong customer as well. Ive got a great rapport with my local allen edmonds retail store, and i love going their to browse their new releases, and my main point person at that store is always really nice to me.

And ive seen a couple of other people on the elevator in my building at work who were wearing Allen Edmonds, and despite their inferior quality to most other dress shoe makers, they looked nice to my eye...there was one older gentleman who had on what looked a walnut park avenue...I instantly recognized it for its dreaded and oft-maligned stubby toe cap...but they honestly looked very good on him...not modern or trendy, but good enough to compliment the rest of his suit nicely. And I know that there are alot of lawyers and executives of engineering firms in my building, so I figure if they will stoop to wearing allen edmonds in place of john lobb, St. Crispins, edward green, or G&G and can be satisfied with their footwear, why wouldnt I.

Here it is, take a look: http://www.styleforum.net/t/415186/shoe-dissection-allen-edmonds-john-lobb-bostonian-and-more

I think the main takeaway is when you go to the best of the best, you'll step up in quality, but you see diminishing returns. I view the next tier up from AE being things such as Alden, Crockett, etc. Unfortunately, you need to remember that is a 35-50% uptick in MSRP and its not exactly hard to get AE's a lot lower than MSRP.
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