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Which seller?
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Listed as "New without box"... Also conveniently positioned the shoe with the defect so the top of the shoes couldn't be seen in the sole photo he/she used.

Oh yeah I would return them for item not described and request a full refund including return shipping. Only other option if you can live with the defect is seeing if they would drop the price significantly. I sell a lot of AE seconds and deceptive selling practices like this really irk me.
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I think AE needs more suede options. I have 4 pairs of leather dress shoes but I think I need to add a suede soon.

Also, I don't think I ever seen anyone in this thread that has purchased Chelsea boots. No love for em?

 

MTO, my friend.  MTO.

 

As for chelseas, AE's most recent offerings were the Haight and the Ashbury.  The former:

 

 

And the latter:

 

 

I know the medallion on the Haight turned a lot of people off.  And, the Ashbury looks too casual for a chelsea IMO.

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Oh yeah I would return them for item not described and request a full refund including return shipping. Only other option if you can live with the defect is seeing if they would drop the price significantly. I sell a lot of AE seconds and deceptive selling practices like this really irk me.

Thank FreedBird,

 

I will most likely return them. Seller won't acknowledge they are Seconds/Thirds and won't admit to the defect, they just admit that the stamping is to prevent "retail returns".

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Thank FreedBird,

I will most likely return them. Seller won't acknowledge they are Seconds/Thirds and won't admit to the defect, they just admit that the stamping is to prevent "retail returns".

Open a case with eBay, provide the photos you provided of the shoes. You should win the case pretty easily.
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Open a case with eBay, provide the photos you provided of the shoes. You should win the case pretty easily.

Will do, thanks again.

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I've had two shell 2nds that didn't have marks and a third that did. The first two. Burgundy shell Dalton's and Dundee didn't have glaring faults. The brown shell Jefferson had some stray stitching and the piping on the opening had an issue. Nothing you'd notice at a glance.

Glad to hear the McGraws look good. I haven't heard notice that they didn't have my Kenwood so it should be on the way. Hoping for a good pair cuz $150 is insane deal.

I haven't returned one from the 2 for deal before but I think it won't be an issue.

 

Thanks for the info! Here are the McGraws on their inaugural wear.

 

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Thank FreedBird,

I will most likely return them. Seller won't acknowledge they are Seconds/Thirds and won't admit to the defect, they just admit that the stamping is to prevent "retail returns".

If it's hitch n post, I would advise people to use caution. I saw that they listed my recently returned MTO navy McAllisters, the ones I had to return because the sole was peeling off. Nowhere was the defect mentioned. Also, the sole was falsely described as being full leather with a rubber tap. It was a full rubber gumlight.
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I think AE needs more suede options. I have 4 pairs of leather dress shoes but I think I need to add a suede soon.

Also, I don't think I ever seen anyone in this thread that has purchased Chelsea boots. No love for em?

 

AE hasn't had a suitable Chelsea boot in awhile. In  my opinion, the Chelsea boot should be a sleek (108 last please) black or dark brown boot with a flat welt and smooth calfskin. AE did with the Haight and Ashbury what they always do with their shoes, take a classic style and make it "different" For example, the Haight has a split welt, chisel toe and a medallion. The Ashbury is in some distressed/casual leather and not in a color I found suitable. 

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If it's hitch n post, I would advise people to use caution. I saw that they listed my recently returned MTO navy McAllisters, the ones I had to return because the sole was peeling off. Nowhere was the defect mentioned. Also, the sole was falsely described as being full leather with a rubber tap. It was a full rubber gumlight.

Wow that is scary. It is hitch n post. 

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Wow that is scary. It is hitch n post. 

 



Kinda what I was thinking all along. Usually I see their posts are new with defects. However if its listed as new with box and it has a no warranty stamp on the bottom. Its a pretty cut and dry case there for a refund. Did they include a picture of the sole and no warranty stamp in the listing? Most of the ones do. I haven't gotten anything from them as I feel the deals aren't that great and have paid the same or less for 1st quality shoes by being patient and in the right place at the right time.

Not sure how dented that toe box is and if it could be massaged out with a little heat.
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Wow that is scary. It is hitch n post. 

They seem to have a pipeline of shoes that AE refuses to sell as seconds. The "no warranty" stamp means exactly what it sounds like: AE will not honor warranty returns or repairs due to structural or manufacturing flaws, unlike seconds. With a pair of seconds, if the heel falls off prematurely or the stitching falls out or anything else that's not cosmetic, AE will honor their manufacturers warranty and fix it for you. Not so with "no warranty" shoes. To say that it's to prevent retail reselling is rather dishonest.
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Thanks for the info! Here are the McGraws on their inaugural wear.

 

 



Looks good! Can see the the one being a bit lighter. Only adds to the character though. And can always put the other one in the sun for a few days. I like the look of the Mcgraw better than the Kenwood however have no experience with the 234 last. Nor the handswen 800 for the Kenwoood really. But reading reviews I think it'll be a good fit.
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Wow that is scary. It is hitch n post. 

 



Kinda what I was thinking all along. Usually I see their posts are new with defects. However if its listed as new with box and it has a no warranty stamp on the bottom. Its a pretty cut and dry case there for a refund. Did they include a picture of the sole and no warranty stamp in the listing? Most of the ones do. I haven't gotten anything from them as I feel the deals aren't that great and have paid the same or less for 1st quality shoes by being patient and in the right place at the right time.

Not sure how dented that toe box is and if it could be massaged out with a little heat.

 

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They seem to have a pipeline of shoes that AE refuses to sell as seconds. The "no warranty" stamp means exactly what it sounds like: AE will not honor warranty returns or repairs due to structural or manufacturing flaws, unlike seconds. With a pair of seconds, if the heel falls off prematurely or the stitching falls out or anything else that's not cosmetic, AE will honor their manufacturers warranty and fix it for you. Not so with "no warranty" shoes. To say that it's to prevent retail reselling is rather dishonest.

Listed as New without box, no mention of any defects. They offered refund once I send them back but again never admitted to any defect/deceiving other than "sorry you're not happy". They included a picture of a sole and I guess I was naive since they said in the listing "marked to prevent retail return" I assumed it was their own proprietary marking and my experience with AE seconds/thirds is quite limited. I will just return them as this disappointment in the quality/expectations leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I don't like feeling tricked/deceived in a transaction.

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Listed as New without box, no mention of any defects. They offered refund once I send them back but again never admitted to any defect/deceiving other than "sorry you're not happy". They included a picture of a sole and I guess I was naive since they said in the listing "marked to prevent retail return" I assumed it was their own proprietary marking and my experience with AE seconds/thirds is quite limited. I will just return them as this disappointment in the quality/expectations leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I don't like feeling tricked/deceived in a transaction.

Make sure you get a full refund including return shipping and don't get charged a restocking fee. It may be worth opening an item not as described case if you feel the seller won't handle it properly for you.
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