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I'm a big fan of embracing patina, especially in a product you're supposed to wear for years. However, you'd expect to get more life of of them before they start creasing in odd places. I've actually had Cole H's stand up longer.
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Am I the only one in the world that doesn't mind when shoes crease?

Also, I believe AE does use toe stiffeners in calf shoes?

I don't mind creasing, excessive or otherwise. On a Delray for instance, any location of creasing is ok for me. But on a cap toe, it seems to defeat the purpose aesthetically.

As for AE using toe stiffeners, i have yet to see an example where the toe area was not quite tender to gentle pressing. There is a certain stiffness when a toe stiffener is in place (be it plastic or leather). It is also something SAs have confirmed, and the AE factory videos never feature one. I do have an old Mora that i never use laying around, in the interest of science, i will consider taking the vamp apart to verify...
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I can see the granny knot, but the requirement for symmetrical comes off a bit over the top. Maybe even stuffy.

+1
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There was one point months ago where people were complaining that they could see a "bump" in their Mcalisters (I believe) due to what was thought to be a toe stiffener in the cap. I couldn't care less about creasing, personally, but it seems as if the only way that people would be pleased would be by AE having caps of multiple lengths to be used with different lasts, widths, sizes, models, etc. If you keep your shoes properly cared for, I don't believe creasing will have  adverse effects regarding the longevity of your footwear. Aesthetically, however, is a different question. Personally, the thought of me not liking a pair of shoes because of creasing has never crossed my mind. 

 

This is all my opinion, but these are decent-to-high-quality leather shoes. Decent-to-high-quality leather wrinkles and creases. In the case of Cole Haan, people probably aren't experiencing creasing because they are likely using an inferior quality, stiffer leather. As a result, these shoes probably don't crease due to them being more "plasticky" of a material. In the case of higher end brands, people probably aren't experiencing creasing because the leather is of a superior quality allowing it to somehow withstand creasing. This probably adds into the increased price versus AE. 

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I'm wearing old Park Avenue's today. A dutch coworker just asked if I was wearing european shoes. I said nope, these are american. Been staples for decades here. I think it's the old PA last though. Super nice and yeah, it looks euro. So awesome.

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This is all my opinion, but these are decent-to-high-quality leather shoes. Decent-to-high-quality leather wrinkles and creases. In the case of Cole Haan, people probably aren't experiencing creasing because they are likely using an inferior quality, stiffer leather. As a result, these shoes probably don't crease due to them being more "plasticky" of a material. In the case of higher end brands, people probably aren't experiencing creasing because the leather is of a superior quality allowing it to somehow withstand creasing. This probably adds into the increased price versus AE. 

You should note that while more expensive brands do use better leather and toe stiffeners, it does not always guarantee a creaseless cap toe. I recall some St. Crispins where the gentlemen had small creases in the cap toe, there was some conversation to the fact. It was not a sizing problem, and a leather toe stiffener was still present (albeit a little short), but the creasing still happened. It's not necessarily just the leather, but also good construction and sizing that reduce the chance of cap toe creasing.

In any case, like i said, if the cap toe creasing does not affect comfort, then it's only an aesthetic problem that should be accessed on an individual level...
Edited by JubeiSpiegel - 7/11/14 at 8:10am
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A stiffer, double-leather sole would also counteract a creasing of the cap.
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Does anyone have experience with the Gridiron Derby?  I want something for dress-casual/commuting and occasional office wear (slacks and OCBD).  I'm wondering if the football-grain relegates this model to the novelty section.

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If you're not already one, you need to be a Nordstrom Rewards cardmember to get access to the "Early Access pre-sale" July 10-17.  For me, after I log into Nordstrom.com and search for "Allen Edmonds Strand", the sale walnut Strand appears.

 

thanks a lot for the info, you can please let me know what price will the McAllister be and what colors are available? (I see merlot and walnut now)

 

thanks!

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Hi there,

 

I have the park avenue black in 9D, thinking about getting my second pair of dress shoes in brown now that I graduated college.

Preferably a blucher/derby (Leed, Kenilworth, or Delray???) And, how should I size in those?

Almost saw a pair of belgium on ebay that I like, can anyone speak about those?

Thanks.

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There's always the Carlyle:



And the Vernon, though technically an Adelaide. I'm pretty sure you can MTO one without the toe perforations.

 

Neither of those are on the 5 last, they are 8 last shoes. Still narrower than their more bulbous offerings, but the 5 last is a perfect balance for office and evening wear.

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Hi there,

I have the park avenue black in 9D, thinking about getting my second pair of dress shoes in brown now that I graduated college.
Preferably a blucher/derby (Leed, Kenilworth, or Delray???) And, how should I size in those?
Almost saw a pair of belgium on ebay that I like, can anyone speak about those?
Thanks.

The Kenilworth is on the 5 last, so should fit the same as your Park Avenue. The Leed is on the 1 last, which is more generous width wise, so you might want to get sized at an AE store before you buy this one online. The Delray on the 8 last is a little more tapered, but not as slim as the 5 overall, might have a little bit less toe space though.

When in doubt, if you have an AE location near you, use the resources at our disposal...
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Another great shoe which is on clearance and being discontinued by AE, hard to believe. I was considering a MTO in burgundy shell but that is no longer an option.

It is a shame really. AE is notorious for discontinuing great looking styles. Except for maybe a few current styles, they don't seem to be making any design I'd want to add to my collection. 

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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

It is a shame really. AE is notorious for discontinuing great looking styles. Except for maybe a few current styles, they don't seem to be making any design I'd want to add to my collection. 

I said this in the MTO AE thread, and i'll say it here.

Note to AE:

Please make more 8 last shoes.

Thank you.
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I wore my strands all day yesterday and at the end of the day my feet were killing me.

I normally only wear them for my 8 hour shift and I change into running shoes. After work we had a work party so I decided to wear them there. When I got home after midnight my feet were done.

Am I the only one who experienced the strands not being comfortable?
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