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Question regarding the AE Strand to the AE experts on this forum:. I notice on the AE site they have the Strand 'with combination Tap Sole". Does it make sense to get THEIR tap sole? Or does it make more sense to have one third party installed? Any thoughts? I need a shoe/sole that can handle a bit of wet pavement. I don't know much about shoes generally, so just seeing if there's are any positives/negatives of one over the other. Thx.

IG
I would prefer the tap sole from AE. If you're willing to pay the retail price and willing to wait, MTO a pair will give you more options (tap sole, Dainite sole)
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I take same size, smaller width from 65 last to 333 last. So my guess is that you'll be 10.5b.

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What's the general 5-65 to 333 last conversion?

Ie if I am at 10.5C in the 5-65, what am I likely to be in the 333?

Thanks

Lachyzee, if you could provide some more specifics that may be good. I am actually the same size on the 5 last as I am on the 333 last, however there are some important details to bring out.

On the 5-last, I have Walnut Shell Strands in 10.5C. Other than the Shell, they are standard shoes and abide my standard sizing principles. I also have the Jefferson on the 5-last in Shell and I went with 10.5D. The important difference is the lamb skin lining. I have the Harrison, which I MTOed in Black shell that is on the 333-last and I went 10.5D due to the lamb skin lining once again.

If you have any more specifics or questions, please let me know. Sounds like we are the same size though. :-)

-Mike
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I would prefer the tap sole from AE. If you're willing to pay the retail price and willing to wait, MTO a pair will give you more options (tap sole, Dainite sole)

 

I would prefer the 3rd party tap sole.   If you wear out the vtread, AE will re-sole the shoe for something over $100.   If you wear out a tap sole glued on by a cobbler, then you take another $25 down to the cobbler and they put on a new one.   Not only is the tap sole glued on by a cobbler just as good as a vtread, the fact that the shoes don't get resoled likely prolongs their useable life.   You can only resole a pair of shoes so many times.   The vibram material which my cobbler uses seems just as good, if not better, than the vtread material.   In this situation, I also find the glued on tap sole to be superior in every way.   I'll take the vtread if there's a pair of shoes I like with it, but if given the option, I'd choose to order plain leather soles then visit my cobbler. 

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I would prefer the 3rd party tap sole.   If you wear out the vtread, AE will re-sole the shoe for something over $100.   If you wear out a tap sole glued on by a cobbler, then you take another $25 down to the cobbler and they put on a new one.   Not only is the tap sole glued on by a cobbler just as good as a vtread, the fact that the shoes don't get resoled likely prolongs their useable life.   You can only resole a pair of shoes so many times.   The vibram material which my cobbler uses seems just as good, if not better, than the vtread material.   In this situation, I also find the glued on tap sole to be superior in every way.   I'll take the vtread if there's a pair of shoes I like with it, but if given the option, I'd choose to order plain leather soles then visit my cobbler. 

 

 

I have 2 pairs of Brooks Brothers AE shoes that come standard with the Vtread and I prefer the Vtread that AE does from the factory. The main reason is that on the aftermarket "Topy" jobs I have seen, the rubber layer is a flat layer slapped on with glue, whereas when you get it stock from the factory, they first glue it on over the leather sole, and then stitch over it when they are attaching the outsole to the rest of the shoe. I think the exposed stitching on the sole looks much better.

 

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I have 2 pairs of Brooks Brothers AE shoes that come standard with the Vtread and I prefer the Vtread that AE does from the factory. The main reason is that on the aftermarket "Topy" jobs I have seen, the rubber layer is a flat layer slapped on with glue, whereas when you get it stock from the factory, they first glue it on over the leather sole, and then stitch over it when they are attaching the outsole to the rest of the shoe. I think the exposed stitching on the sole looks much better.

 

 

 

The default Brooks Brothers AE sole with the vtread (grippy) and the combination heel (slippery) honestly doesn't make sense to me.   It might look neat, but it's functionally silly. 

 

I should also point out that I have a pair of shoes with the AE vtread (Rapid City) which I do like.  I bought and sent back a pair of the Brooks Macneils with the sole you favor.   I've had Vibram topy-like tap soles put on 4 pairs of AE shoes.    

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The default Brooks Brothers AE sole with the vtread (grippy) and the combination heel (slippery) honestly doesn't make sense to me.   It might look neat, but it's functionally silly. 


OMG, this was bombed to death on the shoe care thread...it was painful reading.  Seems to be no middle ground - guys love topys or hate them.  I would never criticize anyone's feelings either way.  However, living in the pacific northwest rainforest (Vancouver area), I put topys on all my shoes.  Just doesn't feel right to me, stepping outside onto a wet sidewalk, driveway or road, with unprotected leather soles.  Soft, soggy, wet leather just doesn't do it for me.  If I lived in a dry climate, I'd love to wear unprotected leather soles.  I did chime in with the two-part combination heels too.  I have a few pairs with them, and I don't get it.  Best answer I could get on the care thread, was purely aesthetics - guys like the way they look when they cross their legs I guess.  Me - if I'm putting a topy on the sole to protect it, why do I want a half-leather heel?  I guess when they get enough wear, off they come at the cobbler, and on goes a rubber block heel.  I can only dream of living in Palm Springs...lol.  As for the BB vtread above, I too feel it's strange that you'd protect a leather sole with basically a grippy topy, but then stitch through it, creating waterways.   I know I know I know, I'll get attacked for the fact that a topy is only millimetres thick, and water can certainly come up over the sides to wet/soften the sides of the sole, but I've got sole dressings for those sides.  And I'm not grinding the water into the sides as I walk, like I am on the bottoms.  Long story longer, I believe in topys where I live, and have them on almost all of my leather shoes.

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Brand new McTavish seconds have arrived, love the look. Will get their first wear tomorrow. Too bad they discontinued these....J
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Looking at the independence collection. 

 

For someone who has never bought AE shoes, how do I figure out what size to search for? I have always worn Rockports or Florsheims. I am usually 9/9.5 M or W on Rockports.

PS: I am guessing this would need a Store visit?

 

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Any 4th July sales for Allen Edmonds - deals not worth losing? 
 

Independence Collection seconds for $229 instead of $389
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Yeah, getting a proper fitting over several different lasts (the 5, 3, and 2 lasts are used for the Indy collection) is the best way to spare yourself some very expensive mistakes.
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Sorry if this has been recently answered, but does anyone know when the next major seconds sale may be? The MTO thread has got me loving the 8 last and I'm thinking about the Carlyle for formal occasions..

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got my third pair of allen edmonds at a steal.

been wanting to get some chromexcels for awhile now.

first choice was the Rush st. but could not pull the trigger as something seemed off.

the clark st was my 2nd choice am so glad i got it as pictures don't do the shoe justice.

 

they are a different animal from the AE stock photos I've seen. they are nice heavy supple

and the colour is just so versatile. love the danite sole very very comfy!! love mine.

 

here some photos and comparing with some Alden PTB chromexcels

 

 

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I saw recently that AE stores will sometimes price match the Nordstrom sale. Any idea if they'd price match a belt in a color not carried by Nordstrom? I'm looking for a Merlot Manistee, but don't want to pay $120 for it.
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got my third pair of allen edmonds at a steal.

been wanting to get some chromexcels for awhile now.

first choice was the Rush st. but could not pull the trigger as something seemed off.

the clark st was my 2nd choice am so glad i got it as pictures don't do the shoe justice.

 

they are a different animal from the AE stock photos I've seen. they are nice heavy supple

and the colour is just so versatile. love the danite sole very very comfy!! love mine.

 

here some photos and comparing with some Alden PTB chromexcels

 

 


Funny you should post this. I was just looking around the AE website today and thinking that I really needed to get a pair of those. (although I'd have to special order them with a leather sole, as I cannot stand the Dainite)

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Funny you should post this. I was just looking around the AE website today and thinking that I really needed to get a pair of those. (although I'd have to special order them with a leather sole, as I cannot stand the Dainite)

Think you should go for it. The shoe is beautiful in person
Most of my shoes are of these shape and love them,quite happy with the
Danite sole. Live in asia always wet and damp and the leather sole will
Be dead in no time. Also most of my shoes have lesther sole so wanted someyhung
More durable.

Any reason why you dont like the dainite sole?
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Think you should go for it. The shoe is beautiful in person
Most of my shoes are of these shape and love them,quite happy with the
Danite sole. Live in asia always wet and damp and the leather sole will
Be dead in no time. Also most of my shoes have lesther sole so wanted someyhung
More durable.

Any reason why you dont like the dainite sole?

I find walking on pavement rather uncomfortable until the studs have worn a bit.
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