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Hard to tell for sure from the pictures but I do not think that is excess cream on those. A lady at the shoebank nailed it awhile back when she told me that AE shell seconds are either really good or really bad.

 



I'd agree with that statement. I was looking into getting some Leeds and the SA said they were pretty bad and sent me a picture. I'll see if I still have it. The inside of shoe had horrible wrinkling to it.
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post
 

Hard to tell for sure from the pictures but I do not think that is excess cream on those.

 

Honestly, I thought it looked like there were gouges in the shell in some places. If it's excess cream, it should be slightly raised, instead.

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Hard to tell for sure from the pictures but I do not think that is excess cream on those. A lady at the shoebank nailed it awhile back when she told me that AE shell seconds are either really good or really bad. You could just water brush them for awhile to see what happens. I use Reno when new and then only once every 6 months to a year after that and a whole lot of water brushing in between. Usually while still warm from wearing them. I tried the neutral Saphir cream but didn't care for it but that was only on my walnut shell Daltons. I do like the cordovan cordovan but then brush the heck out of them after applying it, I prefer to not have any product on shell if I can help it. Many of us have different routines and what works best for you is the right one IMO. Doesn't help that AE shell can have its own "personality" that varies from shoe to shoe. Main thing I feel is brushing and you can't do it all at once it takes time. Let them rest in between sessions.

 

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I'd agree with that statement. I was looking into getting some Leeds and the SA said they were pretty bad and sent me a picture. I'll see if I still have it. The inside of shoe had horrible wrinkling to it.

 

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Honestly, I thought it looked like there were gouges in the shell in some places. If it's excess cream, it should be slightly raised, instead.

 

Thanks again, guys. Yea, I zoomed in on those spots because they looked like the obvious blemishes. I'll hit them with the damp rag tonight and see what comes of them. I'm heavily leaning towards keeping them, but if you guys think it's pretty bad I may reconsider. Thanks again for all of the help.

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Thanks again, guys. Yea, I zoomed in on those spots because they looked like the obvious blemishes. I'll hit them with the damp rag tonight and see what comes of them. I'm heavily leaning towards keeping them, but if you guys think it's pretty bad I may reconsider. Thanks again for all of the help.

 

What is the texture on them? Are they concave or convex? Excess polish certainly does happen; my Burgundy Shell Patriots seconds had a big splotch that came right out:

 

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Even though I was busy traveling for the last month, I managed to get in on the $299 shell seconds to grab some Burgundy Cordovan Patriots.

 

My first question regards fit. I'm an 8.5D/E in the 5-65 last and a 9D in the 1-511 (Shelton and Finch saddle shoes) and 2592 (Center Fielder and Harbour boat shoes). I went with the 8.5D on the advice of the sales associate because he thought without laces to tighten, you want to make sure it isn't too loose. I think this is the right size for me, but I'm having trouble confirming. When barefoot, they a little snug but not bad. The heel doesn't slip, but it's also not tight on the heel. They even feel pretty good with thin socks on. I think after stretching out a tiny bit, they might be perfect. However, when I try to wear loafer socks with them, the ridge of the socks under the vamp really digs into my instep. I guess my question is, should I abandon the idea of using loafer socks with these? I worry about destroying expensive shoes with unguarded foot sweat.

 

Second, I had some questions about their quality. Yes, these are seconds, but I'm trying to decide if it's worth the restocking fee to try to look for better ones. My first showstopper concern was this huge block splotch on the outside of the right shoe:

 

Splotch (Click to show)

 

 

Luckily, to my amazement, I was able to scrape part off with my fingernail. I then used a cotton cloth with Conditioner/Cleaner to remove the rest, and it looks like this:

 

No splotch (Click to show)

 

 

So far so good. I did notice that the left shoe is noticeably lighter, but that's the sort of "seconds" blemish I think I can live with:

 

Mismatch (Click to show)

 

 

 

The final problem is the one I'm most concerned about. I noticed that both shoes have significant pitting on the toes, just in front of where the first crease would go:

 

Pitting (Click to show)

 

 

 

Is this at all normal? I was surprised that they both have it in the same place. Could this actually be some physical damage? Any chance I could work on them and clear it up? The pits actually look big enough that I don't see a good way I could fix it. Let me know what you think.

 

Thanks in advance for all help and advice. Also, it's good to be back!

 

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What is the texture on them? Are they concave or convex? Excess polish certainly does happen; my Burgundy Shell Patriots seconds had a big splotch that came right out:

 

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The first one I photographed is almost certainly concave. It looked like a big pit. The second one I'm not sure, but the discoloration makes me think it may be convex excess polish. I will double check when I get home and report back.

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And that's the only thing I need are these. I don't need those or those. Just these boots... And these gunboats. The boots and the gunboats and that's all I need... And these loafers. The boots, the gunboats, and the loafers, and that's all I need... And these wingtips. The boots, and these wingtips, and the loafers, and the gunboats... And these chukkas. The boots, these gunboats, and the loafers, and the wingtips, and the chukkas, and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need these. The boots and the chukkas, and the gunboats, and the wingtips for sure. Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! And these cap-toes. That's all I need.
....and this remote control...and this paddle game (shameless Steve Martin reference). J
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Just had a great experience! I am newly moved into a new area. I took my vintage AE Ivanhoes to a cobbler in town and he was amazing. My heel had fallen off and the other one was beginning to split from the sole. He took both heels off, re-glued them, and tacked them back on in less than an hour for $10. I am thrilled.

 

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So I randomly acquired a free pair of new brown Leeds with a rubber sole. However, as you can see the upper was not stitched into the sole in one spot. Would a cobbler be able to fix this? If so, anyone know a reputable cobbler in Chicago by any chance?

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^^ Wow, they look great! COngrats.

 

Thanks...still a little shocked how much I like them after the first pair was such a disaster in size and fit.

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Yeah, that's reparable.  That said, the time and cost involved vary enormously: sometimes, if the leather is intact and there's enough there to work with, it can be done really quickly; if the leather tore out of the seam, or if there wasn't quite enough to begin with, it'll take a little more doing, up to the point of completely resoling the shoes, which is what had to happen after I blew out my Filsons in exactly the same spot.

 

Still, given that you got them for free (lucky sod!) it'll be a worthwhile investment.  Not knowing Chicago beyond The Blues Brothers and the inside of its hockey arenas, I can't be of help beyond that.

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Ok, first go with the damp rag, and a couple close ups of the blemishes shortly afterwards. What do you all think?











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That's not looking too promising, Luv.  To my eyes, it looks like the finish is missing from those spots.  I would call customer service and see if they could refinish the shoes (hopefully for free) to correct those spots.

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That's not looking too promising, Luv.  To my eyes, it looks like the finish is missing from those spots.  I would call customer service and see if they could refinish the shoes (hopefully for free) to correct those spots.

They are seconds. I don't know if I have a legitimate complaint? =/

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They are seconds. I don't know if I have a legitimate complaint? =/

 

AE customer service has been known in the past to refinish shell seconds if it will fix an issue. They may say no, but it's worth a phone call.

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Well got my McNeil 5 Cognac's replacements back today and they a great looking. While there are a bunch of minor flaws on these they are staying. I would have to even question if the first pair I received was on the 5 last now that I have the new pair. These are much more refined looking than the last pair and the fit is great and I will not have remorse when I sell my Rush St that do not fit great now. 

 

 

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Cognac is a lovely color, congrats!

 

Got my natty cxl macneil's back and the grommet's been fixed. Finally glad to be able to wear them now!

 

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