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post #44026 of 70737
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Originally Posted by MCanavan6 View Post

Is it surprising I had to size down an entire length for these? I know the McAllisters run long and narrow (which is why I need an 8E), but I've seen nothing on the Moras running less than true to size.

Most folks size the same on the 5 (McAllister) and 8 (mora) lasts, but my experience with dub monks is that they may generally run a little looser than balmorals. But as we all have many different factors that affect how different shoes may fit our feet, I think that this forum's favorite motto applies quite well in most issues regarding fit: YMMV

If the shoe fits, wear it!
post #44027 of 70737
Your best choice for interviews will still be the dark brown PA even if you acquire the wingtips.
post #44028 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

Gentlemen, I'm in need of some sartorial advice. I am a medical student applying for residency and will be (potentially) going on a series of interviews throughout the country in a few months. Outside of a couple pairs of boots, my AE "dress shoe" collection is pictured below. Now, the general consensus of the internet is to get a charcoal or navy suit for interviews, a white non-button down pointed collar shirt, with a conservative tie (burgundy or navy).

I will most likely buy a navy suit, but I am struggling to decide which shoes to wear. The Macneil, IMO is not an option because it is pebble grained, a blucher, and has a thick double sole. The Walnut Strand is too flashy and informal. My only current "safe" option is my dark brown Park Ave, but many are saying I need a black shoe. The easy choice would be to buy a pair of black balmoral captoes, but I already have the Park Ave's, and believe my current collection is too small to allow such a non-versatile shoe.

Do you guys think a burgundy shoe is fair game for an ultra-conservative interview? I was thinking about the McAllister in Merlot (or burgundy), but am not sure if this will be too flashy due to all the brogueing. I'm not exactly keen on getting another 5-last balmoral, but I feel this may be my best choice. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.

Most folks will suggest a black captoe balmoral for interviews, as they're most formal. If you'd like to switch up your lasts/designs, you might try the Rutledge (3 last) or Vernon (8 last) adelaides. Merlot is an excellent color to have in your rotation though, even if not the first choice for this particular occasion.

In practice though, unless you're applying to work in a London law firm, you would likely be fine with the McAllister...

By the way, the Park Ave does come in merlot, and really you could order an MTO shoe in any color you like...
post #44029 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
 

Gentlemen, I'm in need of some sartorial advice. I am a medical student applying for residency and will be (potentially) going on a series of interviews throughout the country in a few months. Outside of a couple pairs of boots, my AE "dress shoe" collection is pictured below. Now, the general consensus of the internet is to get a charcoal or navy suit for interviews, a white non-button down pointed collar shirt, with a conservative tie (burgundy or navy).

 

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I will most likely buy a navy suit, but I am struggling to decide which shoes to wear. The Macneil, IMO is not an option because it is pebble grained, a blucher, and has a thick double sole. The Walnut Strand is too flashy and informal. My only current "safe" option is my dark brown Park Ave, but many are saying I need a black shoe. The easy choice would be to buy a pair of black balmoral captoes, but I already have the Park Ave's, and believe my current collection is too small to allow such a non-versatile shoe.

 

Do you guys think a burgundy shoe is fair game for an ultra-conservative interview? I was thinking about the McAllister in Merlot (or burgundy), but am not sure if this will be too flashy due to all the brogueing. I'm not exactly keen on getting another 5-last balmoral, but I feel this may be my best choice. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Hit ebay and get a great pair of black park's - they generally can be found very cheap...get your use out of them and then know you always have the funeral shoe in the closet waiting for you without feeling bad about price. 

post #44030 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post

Your best choice for interviews will still be the dark brown PA even if you acquire the wingtips.
Agreed. A brown cap toe shoe with no broguing is more suitable than anything with broguing, and you've made it clear that black Park Avenues aren't on the table.

I'd urge you to reconsider that stance; they're indispensable for a funeral or a job interview. A black plaintoe might also do the trick if you're looking for a non-Park Avenue option, with the bonus that it's also a good eveningwear shoe should you ever find yourself in a tuxedo.
post #44031 of 70737

I'll make a statement that might be controversial: I think the Park Avenues are overrated.

 

The cap is very short and I think there are better options for a shoe that doesn't get worn very often by most. I have two pairs, black and burgundy shell, and I wish I had gone a different route for the black pair. The burgundy shell is at least more interesting in color and I got them from Nordstrom Rack for a steal . 

 

I second @random-adam in that the black plain-toe is a great alternative. The Carlyle would definitely do the trick and it's on a more attractive last. 

post #44032 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

Gentlemen, I'm in need of some sartorial advice. I am a medical student applying for residency and will be (potentially) going on a series of interviews throughout the country in a few months. Outside of a couple pairs of boots, my AE "dress shoe" collection is pictured below. Now, the general consensus of the internet is to get a charcoal or navy suit for interviews, a white non-button down pointed collar shirt, with a conservative tie (burgundy or navy).

I will most likely buy a navy suit, but I am struggling to decide which shoes to wear. The Macneil, IMO is not an option because it is pebble grained, a blucher, and has a thick double sole. The Walnut Strand is too flashy and informal. My only current "safe" option is my dark brown Park Ave, but many are saying I need a black shoe. The easy choice would be to buy a pair of black balmoral captoes, but I already have the Park Ave's, and believe my current collection is too small to allow such a non-versatile shoe.

Do you guys think a burgundy shoe is fair game for an ultra-conservative interview? I was thinking about the McAllister in Merlot (or burgundy), but am not sure if this will be too flashy due to all the brogueing. I'm not exactly keen on getting another 5-last balmoral, but I feel this may be my best choice. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.

Your gut is correct on most of these fronts. If you are looking to expand your collection, you need to take into account the rest of your lifestyle. Will you be wearing suits often? How formal/casual are you going to be dressing regularly?

Really a black PA is a shoe you will have to likely get at some point. Even though mine doesn't seem to get much use, there are many times when it is nearly the ONLY correct choice.

I love merlot PA also, but really if it is appropriate so are your dark brown PA. Even IF you could do a merlot Mcallister, your dark brown PA will be fine.

Bottom line is you really have two options:

1. Purchase Black PA
2. Wear brown PA and purchase whatever you want/don't purchase

If anything other than a black PA will work you are already covered and shouldn't let this affect your next shoe decision.
post #44033 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

Gentlemen, I'm in need of some sartorial advice. I am a medical student applying for residency and will be (potentially) going on a series of interviews throughout the country in a few months. Outside of a couple pairs of boots, my AE "dress shoe" collection is pictured below. Now, the general consensus of the internet is to get a charcoal or navy suit for interviews, a white non-button down pointed collar shirt, with a conservative tie (burgundy or navy).

I will most likely buy a navy suit, but I am struggling to decide which shoes to wear. The Macneil, IMO is not an option because it is pebble grained, a blucher, and has a thick double sole. The Walnut Strand is too flashy and informal. My only current "safe" option is my dark brown Park Ave, but many are saying I need a black shoe. The easy choice would be to buy a pair of black balmoral captoes, but I already have the Park Ave's, and believe my current collection is too small to allow such a non-versatile shoe.

Do you guys think a burgundy shoe is fair game for an ultra-conservative interview? I was thinking about the McAllister in Merlot (or burgundy), but am not sure if this will be too flashy due to all the brogueing. I'm not exactly keen on getting another 5-last balmoral, but I feel this may be my best choice. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.



The dark brown PAs are probably the best (if going with a navy suit) or the black wingtips if going charcoal suit. Ideally, you would go buy a new pair of black shoes though. Seeing the PA is off the table, the fifth ave, harrison, or rutledge, would work.
post #44034 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
 

Gentlemen, I'm in need of some sartorial advice. I am a medical student applying for residency and will be (potentially) going on a series of interviews throughout the country in a few months. Outside of a couple pairs of boots, my AE "dress shoe" collection is pictured below. Now, the general consensus of the internet is to get a charcoal or navy suit for interviews, a white non-button down pointed collar shirt, with a conservative tie (burgundy or navy).

 

I will most likely buy a navy suit, but I am struggling to decide which shoes to wear. The Macneil, IMO is not an option because it is pebble grained, a blucher, and has a thick double sole. The Walnut Strand is too flashy and informal. My only current "safe" option is my dark brown Park Ave, but many are saying I need a black shoe. The easy choice would be to buy a pair of black balmoral captoes, but I already have the Park Ave's, and believe my current collection is too small to allow such a non-versatile shoe.

 

Do you guys think a burgundy shoe is fair game for an ultra-conservative interview? I was thinking about the McAllister in Merlot (or burgundy), but am not sure if this will be too flashy due to all the brogueing. I'm not exactly keen on getting another 5-last balmoral, but I feel this may be my best choice. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

I'm a physician.  Most if not all specialties in medicine are not so conservative that you would look improper in brown PA's.  If you think you are applying to particularly conservative institutions, then you could get black captoes.  A burgundy McAllister will raise more eyebrows than the brown PA's, although I don't think you would be faulted for wearing those either.  Most applicants seem to wear cheap, poorly-maintained shoes, and I don't think they get judged for it, consciously or unconsciously. 

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Thank you greatly for all the replies. I shudder at the idea as having my already relatively limited collection being 33% Park Aves. I am still young and like to dress somewhat fashion-forward, and I just find the 5 last too blobby unless it has some added design. I don't dislike the shoe by any means, but I must say I am the least eager to wear them out of the bunch. I suppose I will stick with the dark brown Park Ave's I currently own, unless I see a steal for black ones somewhere between now and fall. I also find the idea of Carlyle's quite intriguing, as I do have a few upcoming weddings and the 108 last looks somewhat sleeker than the 5 last.

 

So with the dark brown Park Ave's, would you guys recommend a charcoal or navy suit?

post #44036 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

Thank you greatly for all the replies. I shudder at the idea as having my already relatively limited collection being 33% Park Aves. I am still young and like to dress somewhat fashion-forward, and I just find the 5 last too blobby unless it has some added design. I don't dislike the shoe by any means, but I must say I am the least eager to wear them out of the bunch. I suppose I will stick with the dark brown Park Ave's I currently own, unless I see a steal for black ones somewhere between now and fall. I also find the idea of Carlyle's quite intriguing, as I do have a few upcoming weddings and the 108 last looks somewhat sleeker than the 5 last.



 



So with the dark brown Park Ave's, would you guys recommend a charcoal or navy suit?


 




I honestly don't think it's that big of a discrepancy between a dark brown captoe and a black captoe to warrant a black captoe purchase strictly for interviewing. If you desire a sleeker profile black captoe to justify your purchase, look into Meermin (Hiro, Park and New Rey) as an altnernative for comparable quality shoes.
post #44037 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
 

Thank you greatly for all the replies. I shudder at the idea as having my already relatively limited collection being 33% Park Aves. I am still young and like to dress somewhat fashion-forward, and I just find the 5 last too blobby unless it has some added design. I don't dislike the shoe by any means, but I must say I am the least eager to wear them out of the bunch. I suppose I will stick with the dark brown Park Ave's I currently own, unless I see a steal for black ones somewhere between now and fall. I also find the idea of Carlyle's quite intriguing, as I do have a few upcoming weddings and the 108 last looks somewhat sleeker than the 5 last.

 

So with the dark brown Park Ave's, would you guys recommend a charcoal or navy suit?

 

Navy suit. Burgundy tie. Knock it out of the park.

post #44038 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post

Would you guys say this color is borderline inappropriate for casual business wear? I like the color, but it's getting really popping after stripping out most of the layered polish on top. I think this color is closer to ruby red than burgundy. 



Think you'll be absolutely fine. These look pretty close to Ravello to me, a color that I find perfectly suitable to business casual.
post #44039 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

Thank you greatly for all the replies. I shudder at the idea as having my already relatively limited collection being 33% Park Aves. I am still young and like to dress somewhat fashion-forward, and I just find the 5 last too blobby unless it has some added design. I don't dislike the shoe by any means, but I must say I am the least eager to wear them out of the bunch. I suppose I will stick with the dark brown Park Ave's I currently own, unless I see a steal for black ones somewhere between now and fall. I also find the idea of Carlyle's quite intriguing, as I do have a few upcoming weddings and the 108 last looks somewhat sleeker than the 5 last.

If you're staying with AE shoes, I think the only last that's noticeably sleeker than the 5-last is the 333 last. The 108-last strikes me as about the same as the 5-last in terms of sleekness.

For sleeker shoes, perhaps look into Carmina or Alfred Sargent if you can take a step up in price. To me these brands offer similar value as AE for their price.
post #44040 of 70737

What's with all this sleek talk...do you want to be a man or a cross dressing lady doctor.... :)

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