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The reason for the difference isn't quality driven, as Bespoken said.  It's an aesthetic choice.  The tighter heel makes for a dressier product.  On 270 degree welted shoes, the heel zone of the sole is nailed on.  After the the leather upper is lasted, a heel seat is nailed on, with the nails being driven up through the bottom and clinching into the leather insole.  Lasts have a steel plate on the bottom, which causes the nails to bend and clinch the leather when they strike the plate.  The sole is then nailed in the heel area in the same way, before the actual heel stack is nailed on.  The nails are covered up with the leather cushioned sock liner that you see in other Goodyear-welted shoes.  Contrary to popular belief, that sock liner's 1st intention isn't to pass on comfort to the wearer.  It is to cover up the nails that are holding on the rear of the sole and heel.  AE doesn't make their shoes this way, so those sock liners aren't "needed."

 

It is cheaper, easier, and more streamlined to manufacture 360 degree welts.  That's the reason that AE sticks to that design.  It isn't a cheaper shoe from a shoe quality standpoint.  It's just different.  360 degree welts don't need shanks, and they don't need as many nails.  As mentioned above, they also don't need sock-liners if the sole isn't nailed on at the heel.  They also save a couple of steps in the manufacturing process, which eliminates the need for people to perform those steps.  Those savings are passed on to the customer, and is one of the reasons AE is a more affordable shoe.  Of course, that's at the expense of a more refined looking shoe on some models which may actually be more aesthetically pleasing with a 270 welt.  

 

All companies that do Goodyear-welting (with the exception of AE) alternate between the two methods depending upon what is most appropriate for the style of shoe and its intended function and level of formality.  Traditionally, country or casual styles may be 360, while dressier styles are 270.  AE's company model just disregards these traditions in favor of streamlining their manufacturing.     

 

I love your posts. So much good information in there!

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So I finally decided to pick up a pair of McAllister, and I realized a sale literally just ended a few days ago.

Any idea when the next similar sale for firsts through AE will be? Is there a chance an AE retail store would still honor the sale price?


Check out amazon or Nordstrom
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Looks awesome, AE should use this picture on their website. Any noticeable flaws?

 

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Lasalle 2nds. 

 

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Check out amazon or Nordstrom[/quote

Yeah, both are currently $365. The Nordstrom Men's sale in June may have some, but they don't seem to carry McAllister much in retail stores, so it may not be on their sale list. Amazon seems to have unpredictable discounts.
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Check out amazon or Nordstrom[/quote

Yeah, both are currently $365. The Nordstrom Men's sale in June may have some, but they don't seem to carry McAllister much in retail stores, so it may not be on their sale list. Amazon seems to have unpredictable discounts.

 

Bad luck man. I was just checking out Mcallister a few days ago and they were 200 after 20% off coupon. You can check out the shoe bank for seconds, or take a look at ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Allen-Edmonds-McALLISTER-Oxfords-10-D-Burgundy-/111342304107?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item19ec84bb6b

 

Maybe something like that?

I also did read here that someone was able to get their SA to stick to the sale price a week later. You can call the store and give it a try.

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Got these beauties delivered yesterday. Can't wait to get them in the wild. I don't mind boots at work in a biz casual during the spring.

Chili Dalton's are 1sts as close outs and got a great deal.
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Then spotted these and had to give them a shot. Brown Shell Jeffersons as 2nds.

With flash.
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There are a few small scuffs there on the vamp, but nothing some elbow grease can't get out.

Sunlight
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Only one or two minor flaws and for the price will most def. be keeping them. Super excited.
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The color different between outside and inside is crazy lol. I wouldnt have guess that they are the same shoe

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That pic does lead it to be more reddish. But yea getting them out in the sun just a joy to look at.


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Did you name these shoes? Very clever. Are these made to order? Were these available for purchase at one time? Very interesting. Look great. What are the specifications? S

I did not name them. They were a special group buy from a website called Urban Daddy. It's basically the same shoe as the AE Macneil, but I beleive they're made from horween Dublin leather...not 100% sure on that.
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Aesthetically, the shoes are similar to first quality; But functionally, the shoes creak a bit on the uppers. I'm hoping that it will go away after an  application of Lexol to soften up the leather.  

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Here is a picture of some great AE eye candy, Franciscan in Merlot, with the ever popular independence series lining and soles. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif





I am doing 10% off anything in my classifieds if anyone mentions this thread in a message to me.
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I needed a pair of boot trees for my brown Fifth Street boots.  So I made some.  Here are the pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wowza.

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I needed a pair of boot trees for my brown Fifth Street boots.  So I made some.  Here are the pictures.

 

 

 

 

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Those look incredible.  Nicely done, sir.

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I needed a pair of boot trees for my brown Fifth Street boots.  So I made some.  Here are the pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice handiwork. Are these sealed with poly? If it is, woudlnt that take away from the moisture adsorption ability of the wood?

 

Nonetheless the look great man.

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