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Gents, I'm a newbie here and I was hoping to tap into your expertise for some advice.  I am looking to round out my dress shoe rotation.  Here are the shoes I already have:

 

  • Black Park Ave
  • Black Grain MacNeil
  • Walnut Strands
  • Walnut Grain Park Ave (would like to sell these)
  • Merlot McAllister
  • Chili Dalton
  • (I also have Cole Haan single monk strap shoes in a walnut shade)

 

In my mind, the glaring omission is a dark brown blucher.  Indeed, I think I made a big oversight by buying lighter brown shades while neglecting the much more versatile dark brown.  At first I thought about getting Mora 2.0s during the Anniversary Sale, but, as described below, the 8 last does not fit me well, and I had to take a pass.  So I think blucher is the way to go.  Everything points me toward the Kenilworth in dark brown.  I think the Kenilworth in dark brown would be the final piece to round out my dress shoe rotation and would fit in flawlessly with my existing wardrobe.  I like the 5 last and it would be something I could wear it 2-3 per week - a real workhorse shoe for me.

 

Some caveats/thoughts:

 

  • I work in a fairly conservative environment and mainly wear business casual (on the dressier side of business casual, if such a thing exists) or suits (a few times a month)
  • I wear beater shoes for the commute and change into dress shoes at work, so I do not necessarily need something with a tap sole
  • I do not want "casual" AE shoes (Neumok, etc.), when I dress casually I wear sneakers or boots (have pairs of Wolverine 1000 Miles and Fryes)
  • I do not want another cap toe, so the Lexington is out
  • The 8 last does not work for me (so, sadly, Clifton and Mora 2.0 are no goes)
  • I do not care for suede shoes, and do not see them as a good fit with my style/wardrobe...I'm sure that's sacrilege around these parts, so please bear with me

 

If you have read this far:  thanks.  In light of the above, do you agree that getting a dark brown blucher is the next shoe I should purchase?  If so, is the dark brown Kenilworth the way to go?  Am I missing a better option (for example, Leeds)?  Does the Leeds even have a non-custom dark brown option?  I would love to hear thoughts from you guys.  Thanks so much in advance!

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Cordovan dundee
post #43518 of 70737
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Originally Posted by rink View Post

luv2, I have really enjoyed reading your advice and expertise in this thread.  So much so, in fact, that I decided to register to ask you a question.  I recently purchased the BB MacNeil in black grain, which fits this description to a T.  I have been strictly wearing them with dark gray trousers in a business casual setting, so I am glad to hear that my instincts have been correct (I pair the dark gray trousers with a light blue or white shirt, sometimes with a tie--typically some variation of dark navy or burgundy).  What I was wondering was whether the shoes may be paired with any other color of trousers?  The only other color that came to mind was a dark navy pair of trousers - though I typically do not like black shoes with dark navy trousers (reminds me too much of a police uniform, IMHO).  I am fine if the MacNeils can only be paired with dark gray trousers, because I have several of those, but wanted to know if the shoes were a little more versatile than just dark gray trousers.

Thanks in advance for your input.  Again, your advice has really been a welcome addition to this thread!

Black dress shoes will go with any colours of trousers expect brown.

Brown shoes will go with any colour of trousers expect black pants

When I started out buying good dress shoes (AE) I bought the black fifth avenue from Brooks brothers and it's very comfortable but the most drab out of my shoe collection.

Maybe it's in my mind, I wear the fifth ave's once a week.
post #43519 of 70737
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Originally Posted by rink View Post

Gents, I'm a newbie here and I was hoping to tap into your expertise for some advice.  I am looking to round out my dress shoe rotation.  Here are the shoes I already have:
  • Black Park Ave
  • Black Grain MacNeil
  • Walnut Strands
  • Walnut Grain Park Ave (would like to sell these)
  • Merlot McAllister
  • Chili Dalton
  • (I also have Cole Haan single monk strap shoes in a walnut shade)

In my mind, the glaring omission is a dark brown blucher.  Indeed, I think I made a big oversight by buying lighter brown shades while neglecting the much more versatile dark brown.  At first I thought about getting Mora 2.0s during the Anniversary Sale, but, as described below, the 8 last does not fit me well, and I had to take a pass.  So I think blucher is the way to go.  Everything points me toward the Kenilworth in dark brown.  I think the Kenilworth in dark brown would be the final piece to round out my dress shoe rotation and would fit in flawlessly with my existing wardrobe.  I like the 5 last and it would be something I could wear it 2-3 per week - a real workhorse shoe for me.

Some caveats/thoughts:
  • I work in a fairly conservative environment and mainly wear business casual (on the dressier side of business casual, if such a thing exists) or suits (a few times a month)
  • I wear beater shoes for the commute and change into dress shoes at work, so I do not necessarily need something with a tap sole
  • I do not want "casual" AE shoes (Neumok, etc.), when I dress casually I wear sneakers or boots (have pairs of Wolverine 1000 Miles and Fryes)
  • I do not want another cap toe, so the Lexington is out
  • The 8 last does not work for me (so, sadly, Clifton and Mora 2.0 are no goes)
  • I do not care for suede shoes, and do not see them as a good fit with my style/wardrobe...I'm sure that's sacrilege around these parts, so please bear with me

If you have read this far:  thanks.  In light of the above, do you agree that getting a dark brown blucher is the next shoe I should purchase?  If so, is the dark brown Kenilworth the way to go?  Am I missing a better option (for example, Leeds)?  Does the Leeds even have a non-custom dark brown option?  I would love to hear thoughts from you guys.  Thanks so much in advance!

I have the dark brown kenilworth and it's a great shoe. Go for it, you won't be disappointed!

Edit, what is weird is that the kenilworth is on the same last as the park and fifth avenue but I had to size down .5 from my normal size in AE
post #43520 of 70737
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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post


I have the dark brown kenilworth and it's a great shoe. Go for it, you won't be disappointed!

Edit, what is weird is that the kenilworth is on the same last as the park and fifth avenue but I had to size down .5 from my normal size in AE

 

Thanks for the feedback 7_rocket!  And a hat tip as well on the sizing advice - will keep that in mind.  (Thanks as well for your advice on the black grain MacNeils.)

post #43521 of 70737
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Originally Posted by rink View Post

luv2, I have really enjoyed reading your advice and expertise in this thread.  So much so, in fact, that I decided to register to ask you a question.  I recently purchased the BB MacNeil in black grain, which fits this description to a T.  I have been strictly wearing them with dark gray trousers in a business casual setting, so I am glad to hear that my instincts have been correct (I pair the dark gray trousers with a light blue or white shirt, sometimes with a tie--typically some variation of dark navy or burgundy).  What I was wondering was whether the shoes may be paired with any other color of trousers?  The only other color that came to mind was a dark navy pair of trousers - though I typically do not like black shoes with dark navy trousers (reminds me too much of a police uniform, IMHO).  I am fine if the MacNeils can only be paired with dark gray trousers, because I have several of those, but wanted to know if the shoes were a little more versatile than just dark gray trousers.

Thanks in advance for your input.  Again, your advice has really been a welcome addition to this thread!

Aww shucks, thanks for the compliments. The reason I say the casual black shoe is so hard to use is precisely because your trouser options are so limited.

Light colored trousers are right out, so you lose most of your standard khaki's, etc. you are right to avoid navy for the exact reasons you mentioned, it's gone. Your olive trousers will always look better with brown given the earth tones. Same goes from your brown trousers, they'll pair much better with slightly contrasting brown shoes. So what are you really left with? Pretty much nothing.

That said, I think you have 1 other option if you want to try it. Gray suit's favorite shoe color besides black is merlot. Why not flip that palette? I bet your black grain MacNeil would look smashing with deep burgundy cords. I really think that is the only other viable option. YMMV.

Also, you are right to look for a dark brown shoe. I think the kenilworth is a great choice, but I like dark brown split toes A LOT too. Give delray or lasalle a look if the last works for you.
post #43522 of 70737
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Originally Posted by rink View Post

Thanks for the feedback 7_rocket!  And a hat tip as well on the sizing advice - will keep that in mind.  (Thanks as well for your advice on the black grain MacNeils.)

No problem. You might not have to size down so use your discretion of course.

Hope you can try them on before buying
post #43523 of 70737
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Originally Posted by luv2breformed View Post


Aww shucks, thanks for the compliments. The reason I say the casual black shoe is so hard to use is precisely because your trouser options are so limited.

Light colored trousers are right out, so you lose most of your standard khaki's, etc. you are right to avoid navy for the exact reasons you mentioned, it's gone. Your olive trousers will always look better with brown given the earth tones. Same goes from your brown trousers, they'll pair much better with slightly contrasting brown shoes. So what are you really left with? Pretty much nothing.

That said, I think you have 1 other option if you want to try it. Gray suit's favorite shoe color besides black is merlot. Why not flip that palette? I bet your black grain MacNeil would look smashing with deep burgundy cords. I really think that is the only other viable option. YMMV.

Also, you are right to look for a dark brown shoe. I think the kenilworth is a great choice, but I like dark brown split toes A LOT too. Give delray or lasalle a look if the last works for you.

 

Thanks, luv2 - this is very helpful, and reaffirms my intuition about sticking with dark gray (which is actually quite the boost to my style morale to be on the same page as you, haha).  I really love the idea of the black MacNeil with a dark burgundy pair of trousers...but I don't own a pair of burgundy trousers...yet!  I will have to put those on my mental wish/shopping list.  Thanks for the suggestion.

 

Thanks as well for your advice on the Kenilworth.  I do like the look of the Delray, but, unfortunately, it is an 8 last shoe, so I do not think it would fit me well.  Although perhaps I should head down to the local AE and give it a shot.

 

Again, thanks for your input - both here and elsewhere in this thread.

 

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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post


No problem. You might not have to size down so use your discretion of course.

Hope you can try them on before buying

 

7_rocket, given your advice on sizing, I will definitely swing by the AE store before I purchase.  I think I might wait a few months and hope the Kenilworth ends up in a sale (whether it be first quality or second quality).

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Got a new pair of black Park Aves delivered the other day.  I have not worn them yet.  Literally brand new from the factory.  Using Allen Edmonds Premium Shoe Polish, I was just polishing them a minute ago for a wedding I'm in tomorrow and everything was going great.  I thought to myself, "Self, why don't you try to put a high shine on these bad boys?"

 

Attempting to mimic the instructional Youtube videos where guys have a cotton cloth over their fingers, dip them into a little water, then into their wax tin, and then polish the toe cap for a high shine, I ran into a little trouble (yes, I was using the creme that comes in the squeezy tube and not actual carnauba wax).  As soon as I put my cloth-covered, wet fingers on the toe of the shoe I felt them stick a little bit.  I immediately pulled my fingers off and there was a dull spot left behind that appeared to be totally stripped of any sort of finish.   I had already applied the Premium Shoe Polish and let it dry.  The plan was to buff it off with a damp cloth. 

 

After reapplying more polish and then brushing with a horsehair brush and buffing with a cloth, it looks a lot better but I can still see a dull spot about the size of two fingers right on the toe of the right shoe.  If you look really close you can even see a ridged ring around the dull area that seems to indicate I pulled a layer of finish off.  Any suggestions on how I can buff this out and make it all match again?

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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post

I love this shoe! When did they stop making it? I'd give a pretty penny for a black pair.

Very nice combination...compliments
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Lexington vs. Harrison 

 

I am in the market for a brown cap toe and pretty much had my mind made up on the Lexington at the sale price, but noticed there is a brown Harrison in my size via seconds for close to same sale price.

 

I am leaning toward the Harrison, bc. upgraded leather and supposed higher grade shoe, and the sleeker design.

 

Unknowns: Any experience in how the Harrison holds up (search turned up creasing issues, but no pics)? Also I am unfamiliar with how the 333 last fits  

 

Knowns: I already know how the 65 Last (Lexington fits), my Stands in same last are by far my most comfortable shoes.

 

Would appreciate any input on which shoe you would go with.

post #43527 of 70737
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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post
 

Every collection, in my opinion and others, needs a dress pair in black.  The Allen Edmonds Web Site has many black shoes and boots with an option to see what dress pants, casual pants, and jeans looks like.

 

All my best,


David

 

 

 

Disgusting.

 

Those combos look terrible.

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AE needs to add a selvage denim option.
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Disgusting.

Those combos look terrible.
Yes, I think that's the point: it lets you see all the combinations, so you know that some look terrible.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

AE needs to add a selvage denim option.
Lol. With an adjustable width cuff.
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