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If you haven't checked out Carmina yet, be sure to do so.  E.g., their shell is Horween and the same price as AE's when you buy direct off their website, and it achieves a level of fit and finish that AE just can't match.  (That said, I have many more pairs of AE than I do of Carmina - different shoes for different occasions.)

 

That Cognac longwing on dainite has been calling my name.

 

Oh my, or I found a Cognac PTB on dainite...

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If you haven't checked out Carmina yet, be sure to do so.  E.g., their shell is Horween and the same price as AE's when you buy direct off their website, and it achieves a level of fit and finish that AE just can't match.  (That said, I have many more pairs of AE than I do of Carmina - different shoes for different occasions.)

 

That Cognac longwing on dainite has been calling my name.

 

Oh my, or I found a Cognac PTB on dainite...

 

Word.  Had I not done my brown shell MTO MacNeil, I would have been all over it.

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 I personally have enjoyed reading the back-and-forth the last couple of days. I honestly have no clue what the "rules" are, but I would like to learn. Then, once I've learned, I'd like to break all at once (OK...not all of them). That's just who I am though.

 

luv2breformed, I appreciate your posts, and as a previous poster said, I hope none of this deters you from sharing your honest opinion.  On that note, where do you recommend are the best places for me to learn the 'rules' so I can learn how to break them the right way?

 

Also just want to throw out there that I appreciate all of the other posters out there especially Indy, GOP, (1/2)^3, Kahuna, Pepper, Pastor, tif, dubs, NewShoes, etc., etc., etc., blah blah blah. Everyone brings their own taste and they all blend into what is this forum.

 

Half, I have already worn my Neumoks with shorts this year and have visual evidence. Debating about posting right now to get this pot stirring even faster...

 

I think lurking in the Noodles thread and the Good Taste/WAYWRN threads is a good start.  Take note of what you like and why you like it and, with time, you'll start to piece it all together.

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I was once like you, worried about following the rules. And although I do follow them to an extent, I wouldn't worry too much about breaking them. Heck I swear my strands with chino's from time to time and to ME (important) they look just fine. To others maybe it doesn't go or they think it's not formal etc etc.

I love this thread because everyone is here to help and lend a hand when you ask for advice, i've always had a positive experience here. Stay around fellow SF

 

I think Luv's point is that he is fine with people breaking the rules as long as they know the rule and made a conscious decision to do something different.  I'm currently breaking the rule that says I should not wear an odd jacket and trousers without a tie.  From my perspective, this is a perfectly acceptable look in the business world, which I sometimes prefer (depending on the jacket).  I've just learned not to post any pictures on SF when I'm doing this.

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If you haven't checked out Carmina yet, be sure to do so.  E.g., their shell is Horween and the same price as AE's when you buy direct off their website, and it achieves a level of fit and finish that AE just can't match.  (That said, I have many more pairs of AE than I do of Carmina - different shoes for different occasions.)

 

Carmina reminds me of AE in that Carmina is such an incredible value for the price point.  Different shoes and styles, but both priced very competitively for the quality of the shoe.

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luv2breformed, I appreciate your posts, and as a previous poster said, I hope none of this deters you from sharing your honest opinion.  On that note, where do you recommend are the best places for me to learn the 'rules' so I can learn how to break them the right way?

 

I learned in the following ways.

 

1. Posting on WAYWRN and getting destroyed (really people were mostly helpful), time and time again until I figured it out

2. Read WAYWRN and see who gets a lot of thumbs and try to figure out why

2. Noodles Tie Thread

3. Major threads by forum great "Manton". Some off the top of my head include: Non-Rule "Rules", whnay's good taste, Streamlined Shoe Collection, If you do not own these you aren't well dressed, the worst look . . .there are plenty others from him.

4. Bought Flusser's "Dressing the Man" and Roetzel's "Gentleman" on Amazon

5. Read archives of "A Suitable Wardrobe" blog

6. VOXSARTORIA, particularly this little piece: http://web.archive.org/web/20120711003637/http://www.styleforum.net/t/287922/practical-thoughts-on-coherent-combinations-for-beginners

 

There are other things, but these were major contributors. This isn't very "fast" however. Also, I am still relatively newb.

 

 

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I think Luv's point is that he is fine with people breaking the rules as long as they know the rule and made a conscious decision to do something different. 

 

This. I'm reminded of Hosea 4:6, though I am tearing it from its original context horribly. My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.

 

My favorite dressers routinely break rules. But they do so in an obvious or deliberate way. When somebody breaks too many you just get the impression that they don't know what they are doing.

 

Also, since this isn't directed at anyone particular, women and people in general tend to give compliments to clothing that is not good. Also you will sometimes get complimented by a woman because she can see you are "trying" not because you actually look sharp. In fact women's taste in men's clothing is often quite bad and you should not use their approval as a reliable indicator of being well dressed.

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I love it when this thread stops being about sales and starts being about style. I've learned a lot in SF, and routinely make popcorn for my daily WAYWRN reading.

As my living alternates between playing in jazz clubs, playing formal corporate and private events, and teaching at a university, this web site has proven an invaluable resource for getting my @$&! together.

This discussion reminds me of my class in contemporary music composition. We've devised rules and formulas to try to explain why things sound (or look) good. Once those are understood and mastered, clearly intended deviations can make a positive artistic statement. But eschew them all (in both music and style) cavalierly, without the proper study and experience, and you just sound (or look) ignorant.

Excellent discussion, gents.
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Exactly. It's like trying to play free jazz without having any idea what makes jazz good in the first place.

 

I don't agree with L2BR all the time, especially on the country/city thing and the brogue/derby thing because I prefer brogues and because I think that the country-city divide can be broken relatively well if the colors and textures go together, but you're going to look like an idiot if you're wearing a chalk/pin stripe suit with a tweed vest and cap so....

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I mostly lurk, and I like the friendly tone of this thread.  That being said, I think some more discussion of the "rules" and helpful critiques about what does and doesn't work (beyond the ubiquitous black-captoes-for-interviews advice) would be a great addition.

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Jazz flute is for little sissy boys 

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Jazz flute is for little sissy boys 

Tell that to Ron Burgundy
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Carmina reminds me of AE in that Carmina is such an incredible value for the price point.  Different shoes and styles, but both priced very competitively for the quality of the shoe.

 

Carminas (or AS for Herring) will be my next shoe I believe. I'm just waiting for a free shipping promotion from Carmina so that they are even more affordable. 

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I never realized how deep red "chili" was in the color lineup. I was tempted to try something different since I have so much brown in my closet. What does chili pair well with? Where does it not work at all? Can they look clownish?

Thoughts from fans & detractors alike?



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My Chili's look nothing like that at all.... Not sure if it is my monitor but that looks WAY too red for Chili.

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congrats! those are gorgeous!

 

Thank you, Sir! I'm a big fan of your collection. Keep posting!

 

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I need help sizing AE loafers guys. I measured a 10 d at an AE store, but my left foot is more like 9.5 d. I'm thinking I should go down half a size to 9.5 d. 

 

Please let me know your experiences with loafer sizing. THANKS!

 

Which loafer? The Randolph and Patriot fit differently, at least for me they did. If the AE store is close to you, I recommend trying on the shoes over multiple days at different times of day. It's time consuming and a pain, but that will help you figure out whether it's better to go a little more snug or a little looser. You could also wear them around your house on carpet for a couple hours. The loafer strap can feel much different 3 hours into wearing than it did when you walked around at the store. The SA at the AE near me had to exchange his Patriots for that exact reason. He couldn't bear wearing them for an entire day.

 

 

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If you haven't checked out Carmina yet, be sure to do so.  E.g., their shell is Horween and the same price as AE's when you buy direct off their website, and it achieves a level of fit and finish that AE just can't match.  (That said, I have many more pairs of AE than I do of Carmina - different shoes for different occasions.)

 

Thanks for the tip. I've heard great things about their shell and suede. I just wish I could find a place to try them on before buying. Might need to PM you for sizing advice.

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