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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post

Long time lurker, but finally decided to jump on and ask for an opinion. Yesterday, I visited my local store with the intention of picking up a pair of the McAllister in brown. I somehow wound up leaving with the Jefferson in brown instead, and if you asked me why, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reasonable response. So I have two questions:

1. Did I just waste $90 on the Jefferson ("Independence Collection") over the McAllister, for no particularly convincing reason?

2. Considering the fact that my collection is still in its early stages of maturity (Walnut Strand, Black PA), is the Brown Jefferson (or McAllister, for that matter) a wise addition? Does it add sufficient versatility? Should I be looking at a different color? Different shoe altogether?

Thanks.

My take:

1. No, you did not waste $90. The Jefferson is higher quality and materials than the McAllister. You got nicer leather and soles, plus better assembly. That is probably why you liked them - you noticed the difference in quality, without thinking about it.

2. The Jefferson has different style than the Strand and the PA, but it is also an oxford, which is a third fairly formal shoe for you. If you want to do something really different, you might consider something slightly less formal, like a blucher. But back to the plus side - I think you will find brown to be more versatile than either walnut or black, and I bet you will wear the Jefferson the most, for that reason.

No wrong answers!
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post
 

What did you do polish wise to get that two tone look? or is it just the flash creating it on the vamp

Kahuna,

 

The leather has a bit of dye variation, intentionally, but it's not really a two tone show.  (The picture is a bit deceiving...) I use brown shoe cream on the sole edges, and neutral shoe cream on the rest at the suggestion of the Allen Edmonds folks.  Seems to work fine...

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Originally Posted by watchidiot View Post

Just received my 2nds BB MacNeil. Ordered this before BB went on sale. For usd60 I would have gone for 1st though. Having said that this pair looks great. Only thing I see is some minor creasing on the toe which any be seen on the 1st photo but is visible on the 2nd photo. Being in Asia, definitely not enough reason for me to ship back to US. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Beautiful LWBs ... when it is time to retire my Florsheim cognac pebble-grain version, I will seriously consider those.

PS - the creasing must really be minor because I can't see it.
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Originally Posted by DJTraveler View Post

Brown Hinsdales today.  Picked these up at The Rack a couple years ago.  I added a little burnishing myself to the toe.


Another shoe that AE should bring back. Looks good nod[1].gif
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(cross-post from MTO thread)

 

Leeds arrived today . . . awww yeah.

 

 

1095 BROWN SHELL CORDOVAN

TONE ON TONE UPPER STITCHING

BROWN LEATHER INSOLE

BROWN SPLIT REVERSE WELT

BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING

DOUBLE RENDENBACH OUTSOLE WITH COMBO HEEL

post #43206 of 70737
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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post

Long time lurker, but finally decided to jump on and ask for an opinion. Yesterday, I visited my local store with the intention of picking up a pair of the McAllister in brown. I somehow wound up leaving with the Jefferson in brown instead, and if you asked me why, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reasonable response. So I have two questions:

1. Did I just waste $90 on the Jefferson ("Independence Collection") over the McAllister, for no particularly convincing reason?

2. Considering the fact that my collection is still in its early stages of maturity (Walnut Strand, Black PA), is the Brown Jefferson (or McAllister, for that matter) a wise addition? Does it add sufficient versatility? Should I be looking at a different color? Different shoe altogether?

Thanks.

 

1. It's almost crazy not to spend the extra $90 to go for the Jefferson. The leather upper, lining, sole and wheeled welt is worth the upgrade. The finish is nicer aesthetically, on the Independence line shoes, although I'm not sure if the construction or QC is any better. Also, the brown on the Jefferson is richer and more versatile than the McAllister. I have the McAllister in walnut, and I find it kind of a stiff shoe. 

 

2. Brown balmoral wingtip seems like it's perfect in your current lineup. The walnut strand is pretty versatile between both the casual and business casual environments (no one in the real world cares it's a balmoral), your PA will fit your formal days and the Jefferson is right in between. I think the only other shoe that might be more appropriate would have been a longwing blucher or plain toe blucher, but you can get one (or both of those :stirpot:) next. The Jefferson is such a good deal now, and it's not out of place in your collection. 

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I have both and my knee jerk reaction is Rush St...you get a shoe that is going to have some flair with the Chrome and the Dainite sole gives you a nice all weather shoe....Being a recent suede convert it is hard to argue against the strand, though I would go for a blue suede over a brown as you have a nice array of "brownish" colors

So both shoes have Danite soles. The rush street is $259 currently with the sale. The brogue suede strands I can obtain for $160 for a pair firsts.

Does that change your answer at all? I'm not completely sure I need either one so I could pass on both of them entirely in order to fill other holes in the lineup. Both after all are strands and both are "brown"
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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

(cross-post from MTO thread)

 

Leeds arrived today . . . awww yeah.

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

1095 BROWN SHELL CORDOVAN

TONE ON TONE UPPER STITCHING

BROWN LEATHER INSOLE

BROWN SPLIT REVERSE WELT

BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING

DOUBLE RENDENBACH OUTSOLE WITH COMBO HEEL

 

Oh my, brown Leeds look amazing. Congrats!

 

Wearing my burgundy pair today but would love a pair in brown. 

 

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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post


My take:

1. No, you did not waste $90. The Jefferson is higher quality and materials than the McAllister. You got nicer leather and soles, plus better assembly. That is probably why you liked them - you noticed the difference in quality, without thinking about it.

2. The Jefferson has different style than the Strand and the PA, but it is also an oxford, which is a third fairly formal shoe for you. If you want to do something really different, you might consider something slightly less formal, like a blucher. But back to the plus side - I think you will find brown to be more versatile than either walnut or black, and I bet you will wear the Jefferson the most, for that reason.

No wrong answers!

 

 

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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post
 

 

1. It's almost crazy not to spend the extra $90 to go for the Jefferson. The leather upper, lining, sole and wheeled welt is worth the upgrade. The finish is nicer aesthetically, on the Independence line shoes, although I'm not sure if the construction or QC is any better. Also, the brown on the Jefferson is richer and more versatile than the McAllister. I have the McAllister in walnut, and I find it kind of a stiff shoe. 

 

2. Brown balmoral wingtip seems like it's perfect in your current lineup. The walnut strand is pretty versatile between both the casual and business casual environments (no one in the real world cares it's a balmoral), your PA will fit your formal days and the Jefferson is right in between. I think the only other shoe that might be more appropriate would have been a longwing blucher or plain toe blucher, but you can get one (or both of those :stirpot:) next. The Jefferson is such a good deal now, and it's not out of place in your collection. 

 

Thanks to you both for putting my mind at ease about the purchase. I tried the Jefferson on after having tried on the McAllister, and there was just something about the Jefferson that was calling me to it; I couldn't resist.

 

In fact, I have been on the lookout for a plain toe blucher to add to my collection; thank you NWTeal for the recommendation.

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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post
 

 

 

 

Thanks to you both for putting my mind at ease about the purchase. I tried the Jefferson on after having tried on the McAllister, and there was just something about the Jefferson that was calling me to it; I couldn't resist.

 

In fact, I have been on the lookout for a plain toe blucher to add to my collection; thank you NWTeal for the recommendation.

 No problem! Also, welcome to the thread/forum! Watch out for all of those enablers around here (myself included)!

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Originally Posted by Buddy0329 View Post


So both shoes have Danite soles. The rush street is $259 currently with the sale. The brogue suede strands I can obtain for $160 for a pair firsts.

Does that change your answer at all? I'm not completely sure I need either one so I could pass on both of them entirely in order to fill other holes in the lineup. Both after all are strands and both are "brown"

 

Well you can not argue the price of the Strand.... Rush St seconds are available also on sale probably in that $175-$199. The color of the Rush St just seems to pop on the Chrome leather. 

 

Of course all of the shoes I own are for my pleasure meaning that I could go to work in flip flops, shorts and a tank top everyday which means I have no rules in matching my shoes to anything. So I think you should choose based on what you would reach for to wear more...for me it is the Rush St it just has a killer look. 

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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post

Long time lurker, but finally decided to jump on and ask for an opinion. Yesterday, I visited my local store with the intention of picking up a pair of the McAllister in brown. I somehow wound up leaving with the Jefferson in brown instead, and if you asked me why, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reasonable response. So I have two questions:



1. Did I just waste $90 on the Jefferson ("Independence Collection") over the McAllister, for no particularly convincing reason?



2. Considering the fact that my collection is still in its early stages of maturity (Walnut Strand, Black PA), is the Brown Jefferson (or McAllister, for that matter) a wise addition? Does it add sufficient versatility? Should I be looking at a different color? Different shoe altogether?



Thanks.

 



1) Did you touch the leather on both the McAllisters and Jeffersons? Unless budget is a huge concern, the Jeffersons is the preferred choice.

2) That depends on how many shoes you want in your collection. If you only want three shoes total, then perhaps a blucher may be better in a 3-pair collection. Honestly, I think shoes are more for yourself than for everybody else anyway. Nobody is going to care whether your wingtips are derbies or balmorals.
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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post

Long time lurker, but finally decided to jump on and ask for an opinion. Yesterday, I visited my local store with the intention of picking up a pair of the McAllister in brown. I somehow wound up leaving with the Jefferson in brown instead, and if you asked me why, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reasonable response. So I have two questions:

1. Did I just waste $90 on the Jefferson ("Independence Collection") over the McAllister, for no particularly convincing reason?

2. Considering the fact that my collection is still in its early stages of maturity (Walnut Strand, Black PA), is the Brown Jefferson (or McAllister, for that matter) a wise addition? Does it add sufficient versatility? Should I be looking at a different color? Different shoe altogether?

Thanks.

Agree with the other posters, even though I have two pairs of McAllisters myself. Just wanted to add if you are going to purchase a fourth, definitely look for a burgundy/merlot pair. I find them the most versatile of the colors, and just have a uniquely gorgeous look. I have the merlot McAllisters and they are my favorite pair out of the six I have.
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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

(cross-post from MTO thread)

 

Leeds arrived today . . . awww yeah.

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

1095 BROWN SHELL CORDOVAN

TONE ON TONE UPPER STITCHING

BROWN LEATHER INSOLE

BROWN SPLIT REVERSE WELT

BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING

DOUBLE RENDENBACH OUTSOLE WITH COMBO HEEL

 

Oh my, brown Leeds look amazing. Congrats!

 

Wearing my burgundy pair today but would love a pair in brown. 

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

:fistbump:

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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post
 

 No problem! Also, welcome to the thread/forum! Watch out for all of those enablers around here (myself included)!

 

Thank you!

 

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Originally Posted by mzaki View Post

Long time lurker, but finally decided to jump on and ask for an opinion. Yesterday, I visited my local store with the intention of picking up a pair of the McAllister in brown. I somehow wound up leaving with the Jefferson in brown instead, and if you asked me why, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reasonable response. So I have two questions:



1. Did I just waste $90 on the Jefferson ("Independence Collection") over the McAllister, for no particularly convincing reason?



2. Considering the fact that my collection is still in its early stages of maturity (Walnut Strand, Black PA), is the Brown Jefferson (or McAllister, for that matter) a wise addition? Does it add sufficient versatility? Should I be looking at a different color? Different shoe altogether?



Thanks.

 



1) Did you touch the leather on both the McAllisters and Jeffersons? Unless budget is a huge concern, the Jeffersons is the preferred choice.

2) That depends on how many shoes you want in your collection. If you only want three shoes total, then perhaps a blucher may be better in a 3-pair collection. Honestly, I think shoes are more for yourself than for everybody else anyway. Nobody is going to care whether your wingtips are derbies or balmorals.

 

Thank you for your insights. I did handle both the McAllister and the Jefferson, and while the Jefferson certainly subjectively felt like a nicer shoe to me in every way, I wanted to hear the thoughts of those who know much more than I do. I hope to add several more pairs of shoes to my collection, with a plain toe blucher as the next addition; the recent photos of the Leeds posted by halfnhalfnhalf and Burzan have piqued my interest.

 

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Originally Posted by devastitis View Post


Agree with the other posters, even though I have two pairs of McAllisters myself. Just wanted to add if you are going to purchase a fourth, definitely look for a burgundy/merlot pair. I find them the most versatile of the colors, and just have a uniquely gorgeous look. I have the merlot McAllisters and they are my favorite pair out of the six I have.

 

Thank you. Merlot is indeed a beautiful color, and I hope to own a pair.

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