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Wow. They look incredible! I can't believe there was more to remove. I did a few rounds myself and removed a ton of creme. What was your method?
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Hi Guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

 

I recently tried a couple pairs of Allen Edmonds McAllister wingtips, one purchased online, and one from the San Francisco AE store. Overall I was disappointed enough to return both pairs. My foot measures right between 11 and 11.5, and also right between medium and wide, so finding the proper size on that long narrow last was tricky. The SA and I decided that the 11D was sized the best, although it was tight, and I proceeded to take the shoes home.

 

The two problems I immediately had was that the shoes were horrendously uncomfortable (not just tight but stiff), and the leather on the sides of the shoes "winged" out just while I was standing there. Going to a wide size gave me TOO much width, and the leather did the same thing. In addition, on one of the pairs the upper wasn't even stitched to the sole symmetrically on each shoe!

 

Now, I'm certainly not as knowledgeable as many of you, but am also not a total shoe noob, having several pairs of Ferragamo, Gucci, Magli...ect, and this is the only time I have run into this "winging" problem, and certainly the most uncomfortable a new show of any type has been. In fact, when returning the shoes, I purposely wore a pair of Ferragamo Tramezza shoes to illustrate how that pair kept it's shape, which was possibly not a fair comparison given the price point difference, but it IS Allen Edmonds who touts their fine construction after all, so fair enough.

 

To AE's credit, their sales staff was a pleasure to work with, and agreed that the shoe should not be performing like it did. I received a full refund.

 

Now to my question. I REALLY want to like AE, but all the styles I enjoy are built on the 65 last, which just may not fit my foot well. However, regardless of which last, I came away from my first experience with AE disappointed in the quality of the shoes in general. Your "Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread" though has thousands of posts, seemingly from dozens of fans, but is their quality on par with what it once was, or has it gone markedly south?

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Wow. They look incredible! I can't believe there was more to remove. I did a few rounds myself and removed a ton of creme. What was your method?

 

Just an old t-shirt and small amounts of Renovateur at a time, rubbing in small circles, changing the section of shirt when the polish fully stains. I did two rounds on them and got a ton of polish off, it could stand at least a few more but it's good for now since I find Reno can be quite drying to them.

 

I finished them off with 2 small coats of neutral Saphir cordovan cream to give them some much needed moisture and shine. From here they will be fine with the Mac Method, I may hit them again in 6 months and repeat the whole process.

 

 

 

This was the same method I used on the Dundees and the pic below was the start, they had so much polish they were damn near a solid color without any depth. I used almost a full jar of Reno and two of the cloths in the pic to get them to where they are in the pic above from today.

 

Pics from the day I got the Dundees:

 

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Deciding on whether to get the MacNeil webgem. How close is the color of cognac to chili calf? Just got the BB chili grain MacNeil and am worried it might be redundant. Is the cognac used in the macneil 5 CXL?

 

I also have the chili grain MacNeil and pulled the trigger on the cognac MacNeil 5 two weeks ago.  AE does say in the "ask and answer" portion of the webpage that the cognac is CXL.  Were it not for that, I as well would have considered them redundant.

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Awesome Leeds! Still trying to decide on ptbs or a pair of longwings for my next purchase ...

 

This gets said a lot on this thread, but . . . BOTH.  For reals.

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X-post from the MTO thread but thought you guys might be interested in some more photos in here.

Took some Reno to the MTO Cappuccino Bayfields that I bought form Ryden, after a bunch more AE polish came off they are turning into a wonderfully rich and beautiful color. For the first time I am really seeing the difference between the Dark Brown and Cappuccino cordovan. AE had caked so much stuff on both my Dundees and Bayfields that originally they both looked quite similar. Now when seen in the sun the brown has a brownish/olive undertone and the Cappuccino is revealing such an awesome red undertone. I will see if I can find my Nikon and take some picks tomorrow in the sunlight.

BTW: Let me know what you think of the Alden laces, I am not sure they work as well. The Bayfield eyelets are quite far apart. I am going to give them a few test wearings and see if I like them.




















Dark Brown vs. Cappuccino cordovan:



Very nice boots...Great colors
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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

X-post from the MTO thread but thought you guys might be interested in some more photos in here.

 

Took some Reno to the MTO Cappuccino Bayfields that I bought form Ryden, after a bunch more AE polish came off they are turning into a wonderfully rich and beautiful color. For the first time I am really seeing the difference between the Dark Brown and Cappuccino cordovan. AE had caked so much stuff on both my Dundees and Bayfields that originally they both looked quite similar. Now when seen in the sun the brown has a brownish/olive undertone and the Cappuccino is revealing such an awesome red undertone. I will see if I can find my Nikon and take some picks tomorrow in the sunlight.

 

BTW: Let me know what you think of the Alden laces, I am not sure they work as well. The Bayfield eyelets are quite far apart. I am going to give them a few test wearings and see if I like them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dark Brown vs. Cappuccino cordovan:

 

The Cappuccinos are butta!

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My MTOs all have taken about 5 weeks. But I think a super conservative estimate would be 8 weeks (unless they fail an inspection).

I didnt see the lakeshore offered in custom shoes, do i contact ae about this?

Are all shoes available for mto?
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"~~Hi Guys. Long time lurker, first time poster. I recently tried a couple pairs of Allen Edmonds McAllister wingtips, one purchased online, and one from the San Francisco AE store. Overall I was disappointed enough to return both pairs. My foot measures right between 11 and 11.5, and also right between medium and wide, so finding the proper size on that long narrow last was tricky. The SA and I decided that the 11D was sized the best, although it was tight, and I proceeded to take the shoes home. The two problems I immediately had was that the shoes were horrendously uncomfortable (not just tight but stiff), and the leather on the sides of the shoes "winged" out just while I was standing there. Going to a wide size gave me TOO much width, and the leather did the same thing. In addition, on one of the pairs the upper wasn't even stitched to the sole symmetrically on each shoe! Now, I'm certainly not as knowledgeable as many of you, but am also not a total shoe noob, having several pairs of Ferragamo, Gucci, Magli...ect, and this is the only time I have run into this "winging" problem, and certainly the most uncomfortable a new show of any type has been. In fact, when returning the shoes, I purposely wore a pair of Ferragamo Tramezza shoes to illustrate how that pair kept it's shape, which was possibly not a fair comparison given the price point difference, but it IS Allen Edmonds who touts their fine construction after all, so fair enough. To AE's credit, their sales staff was a pleasure to work with, and agreed that the shoe should not be performing like it did. I received a full refund. Now to my question. I REALLY want to like AE, but all the styles I enjoy are built on the 65 last, which just may not fit my foot well. However, regardless of which last, I came away from my first experience with AE disappointed in the quality of the shoes in general. Your "Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread" though has thousands of posts, seemingly from dozens of fans, but is their quality on par with what it once was, or has it gone markedly south?"

 

I had a similar issue with the AE sizing on the 65 last. I had originally purchased the Park Avenues in 7.5E from the Michigan store after being measured by the sales rep. They were very tight width wise, but the rep said they would break in after a dozen or so wears. They loosened up a little, but never felt comfortable or "right". I called AE customer service, and was set on exchanging them for a pair of 7.5EE, but the AE phone rep talked me out of it, and recommended 8E instead. Here is the way she explained the sizing to me:

 

~~the size increases in length 1/6th of an inch and ¼ quarter of an inch in width each half size. If you just change the width and stay in the same length, the width changes 3/16th of an inch in both the toe box and the heel.

 

I found that by moving up to the 8E, I was able to get adequate side and toe box relief, while still having a good, snug fit in the heel. Might be worth a shot to try on a pair of 11.5D in your case to see if that helps the fit. The pair you purchased was clearly way too tight, which probably contributed to the winging issues you were having.

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They look great! Are they tighter on the toes compared to the 5 last?
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Can we start using spoilers tags more often?
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well played...it just drives me crazy to see 10 pictures reqouted 20 times. Sorry to be a PITA
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well played...it just drives me crazy to see 10 pictures reqouted 20 times. Sorry to be a PITA

LoL. No I agree. :-)
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