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I just bought a pair of shells off this website and my total out-of-pocket (after VAT refund and including shipping) was the equivalent of $650 US - in other words, exactly the same as AE's base shell prices.

 

 

Here are my equivalents:

 

AE 1, 5 - 9.5 E

AE 7 - 9 E

Alden Grant - 10 D

Alden Tremont, Barrie, Trubalance - 9.5 D

Carmina Rain - 9 UK

Yeah. After doing some conversions, I guess Carmina's shells just worth it so much for the price.

 

Can we ask for customization? I've always love a pair of shell wholecut with a Norwegian welt that can part-take weather wear as well. Here in WA state, rain is a constant pain.

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

 

I just bought a pair of shells off this website and my total out-of-pocket (after VAT refund and including shipping) was the equivalent of $650 US - in other words, exactly the same as AE's base shell prices.

 

 

Here are my equivalents:

 

AE 1, 5 - 9.5 E

AE 7 - 9 E

Alden Grant - 10 D

Alden Tremont, Barrie, Trubalance - 9.5 D

Carmina Rain - 9 UK

And I almost forgot... Shipping fees. How would that be like? I'm like, totally numbed and could go nuts when it comes to shipping. International shipping would be such a pain...

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I'd like to throw out there that I am not sure where carmina gets their shell, but I don't think it's horween. Additionally I sometimes think sleek euro lasts are a bit counter to shell's more rugged nature. Just some food for thought. YMMV
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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

I just bought a pair of shells off this website and my total out-of-pocket (after VAT refund and including shipping) was the equivalent of $650 US - in other words, exactly the same as AE's base shell prices.


Here are my equivalents:

AE 1, 5 - 9.5 E
AE 7 - 9 E
Alden Grant - 10 D
Alden Tremont, Barrie, Trubalance - 9.5 D
Carmina Rain - 9 UK

In letting these maniacs know that Carmina shell is the same price as AE shell, I think you just opened Pandora's box. Things will never be the same again.
post #42890 of 70737
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Originally Posted by luv2breformed View Post

I'd like to throw out there that I am not sure where carmina gets their shell, but I don't think it's horween. Additionally I sometimes think sleek euro lasts are a bit counter to shell's more rugged nature. Just some food for thought. YMMV

Carmina uses Horween shell. You're thinking of Meermin, which gets their shell elsewhere.

Soller, Oscar and Detroit are nice round lasts.
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Carmina uses Horween shell. You're thinking of Meermin, which gets their shell elsewhere.

Soller, Oscar and Detroit are nice round lasts.

Thanks for the clarification. Excellent points. smile.gif
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My white Neumocks in the wild w/ some not quite matching pants:

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This is a bizarre question, but how shiny is the hardward on the mora's? Are the buckle's shiny? It looks like they're pretty matte from pictures, but I wanted to check. I've seen some monkstraps with brass/silver hardware that's quite shiny and it looks tacky and cheap to me!

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Carmina uses Horween shell. You're thinking of Meermin, which gets their shell elsewhere.

Soller, Oscar and Detroit are nice round lasts.

Carmina gets navy and cognac shell from Horween? Interesting.

Is it trye that Trickers refuses to source shell from Horween because it's of unreliable quality? I'm pretty sure I read that here on SF.

Veering dangerously off-topic here, tho. I would buy a navy shell webgem from AE in a second...
post #42895 of 70737
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

In letting these maniacs know that Carmina shell is the same price as AE shell, I think you just opened Pandora's box. Things will never be the same again.

 

Lol.  When I first figured that out, I was quite surprised.  To me, though, AE and Carmina are different animals - each has their place.

 

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Originally Posted by luv2breformed View Post

I'd like to throw out there that I am not sure where carmina gets their shell, but I don't think it's horween. Additionally I sometimes think sleek euro lasts are a bit counter to shell's more rugged nature. Just some food for thought. YMMV

Carmina uses Horween shell. You're thinking of Meermin, which gets their shell elsewhere.

Soller, Oscar and Detroit are nice round lasts.

 

Just for fun, here are some comparisons:

 

 

l:  Carmina medallion wholecut, navy shell, Rain last, 9 UK

r:  AE Hanover, bourbon calf, 3 last, 9.5 E

 

 

l:  AE Cambridge, burgundy shell, 5 last, 9.5 E

m:  Alden shortwing bal, whiskey shell, Tremont last, 9.5 D

r:  Carmina shortwing blucher, green shell, Rain last, 9 UK

post #42896 of 70737
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


Carmina gets navy and cognac shell from Horween? Interesting.

Is it trye that Trickers refuses to source shell from Horween because it's of unreliable quality? I'm pretty sure I read that here on SF.

Veering dangerously off-topic here, tho. I would buy a navy shell webgem from AE in a second...

 

I did heard of that somewhere, but not due to reliability, but due to the lack of color spectrum they want.

 

Or maybe they just have an anti-American heart....

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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


Carmina gets navy and cognac shell from Horween? Interesting.

Is it trye that Trickers refuses to source shell from Horween because it's of unreliable quality? I'm pretty sure I read that here on SF.

Veering dangerously off-topic here, tho. I would buy a navy shell webgem from AE in a second...

 

I did heard of that somewhere, but not due to reliability, but due to the lack of color spectrum they want.

 

Or maybe they just have an anti-American heart....

 

It's possible that Carmina, like Rancourt, dyes shell itself.  Rancourt gets only natural and Color 8 from Horween, and dyes the former green, navy, etc.  It may also be true that what Carmina calls "cognac" is what Rancourt calls natural.

 

I'm sure there are other shell-hounds in this thread (are your ears burning, mdubs?) who know more about this than I do . . . .

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

It's possible that Carmina, like Rancourt, dyes shell itself.  Rancourt gets only natural and Color 8 from Horween, and dyes the former green, navy, etc.  It may also be true that what Carmina calls "cognac" is what Rancourt calls natural.

I'm sure there are other shell-hounds in this thread (are your ears burning, mdubs?) who know more about this than I do . . . .

Dig.
post #42899 of 70737
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

Veering dangerously off-topic here, tho. I would buy a navy shell webgem from AE in a second...

 

Me too.  AE better get its act together!

 

One more fun comparison - left is Carmina navy shell, right is Rancourt navy shell:

 

 

And now, back to AE . . . ?

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

 

It's possible that Carmina, like Rancourt, dyes shell itself.  Rancourt gets only natural and Color 8 from Horween, and dyes the former green, navy, etc.  It may also be true that what Carmina calls "cognac" is what Rancourt calls natural.

 

I'm sure there are other shell-hounds in this thread (are your ears burning, mdubs?) who know more about this than I do . . . .

Well guys like Carmina had deeper relationship track-down with Horween, so I guess their reputation allows more accommodation and thus allow them to customize their order. Without sufficient knowledges, I bet nobody is willing enough to dye Shell Cordovan on their own.

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