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I have a pair for every pair of my shoes (~25+ pairs I'd guess). The price for trees is really not indicative of their quality. The JAB ones (http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_101593) are often $6.75 a few times a year and the exact same as the Woodlore ones that sell for $24.95 on AE's website (http://www.woodlore.com/mens-full-shoe-tree-pair/)

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According to the CEO of AE, you want a shoe tree with the most RED cedar (not as much white in the tree) you can find as that color wood has the highest wicking qualities.

Can anyone confirm if the trees sold by JAB are in fact are the "exact same" as the ones purchased directly from AE?

I know they are both made by Woodlore/AE, but I have a hunch that, at some point in the production process, AE grades the quality of their trees based on the heartwood (red) content. This makes logical sense, doesn't it? There is only so much heartwood in the tree, so it makes sense that some trees would be produced with less heartwood than others. Does AE sell these on at reduced prices to their numerous clients that private-label these trees?

I can back this idea up with some anecdotal evidence: I have trees that I've purchased from AE directly as well as trees that I've purchased from the shoe bank. The trees that the shoe bank sells are second quality - something that I did not consider when purchasing them. The only "defect" that I can find in my second-quality trees is that they use less heartwood than my first-quality trees. In fact, my first-quality trees are virtually all heartwood. AE describes their trees on their website as containing at least 75% heartwood. Where do the trees go that use less than 75% heartwood? JAB and others? The lowest AE sells their trees for directly is about $17.50 (2/$39 + 10% sitewide sales), so I wonder why JAB can sell them for under $7 (presumably at a profit).
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How did you learn this? Can you share your intel?
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How do you know what is or isn't included?

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How did you learn this? Can you share your intel?

im unwilling to disclose my exact source as I have a pretty good relationship with my local allen edmondsband I dont wish to jeopardize anyones job nor my rapport with my retailer...I can only say that a store associate told me that its not going to be in the sale, based on her "preliminary" sale list....however she did also say that a couple more styles could be added the list as the sale date approaches, but I wouldnt hang my hat on that being one of the styles
Edited by harlequin782 - 3/26/14 at 5:14pm
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im unwilling to disclose my exact source as I have a pretty good relationship with my local allen edmondsband I dont wish to jeopardize anyones job nor my rapport eithe my retailer...I can only say that a store associate told me that its not going to be in the sale, based on her "preliminary" sale list....however she did also say that a couple more styles could be added the list as the sale date approaches, but I wouldnt hang my hat on that being one of the styles

So to sum up, you don't know anything beyond the Franciscan.

Thanks.
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Last proportions bluchers vs balmoral etc. All play in to it. I would think with the recent changes to the mto program it may mot be possible only one way to find out.....ask.

I called and asked, actually at random got Allison and she said no...I didn't lay on any harm though..
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

So to sum up, you don't know anything beyond the Franciscan.

Thanks.

correct...according to her, since i liked the 333 last, the only other shoe that she shows as being on that last in the sale, is the University, which im not too fond of since i already own a short wingtip in the mcalister. She DID also say that they usually throw one of the woven styles in the sale, so im hoping it will be the Boca Raton, but it hasnt been added yet according to the preliminary list...im keeping my fingers crossed though
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I am still stuck between the Franciscan Walnut and the Mora 2 bourbon ...I really wanted the Mora 2 with the toe cap from the Franciscan...I may settle and perhaps do the Franciscan in Bourbon or wait for a different color to come online for a shell version. Wonder if I acquired Cordovan on my own would AE make a shoe from it?

Well, know the struggle...for I too, faced a similar quandary in trying to decide between the Walnut Franciscan and the Bourbon Mora 2.0...for me, a few things went into my decision to go with the M2. For one, i have come to accept the fact that im apparently a bourbon whore, as i love the color. 2) i already have a walnut shoe, and if you're not careful the waalnut can get a bit too flashy for a wardrobe like mine. im already a tall person so i command enough attention withoutneeding flashy attire...3) though i prefer the 333 last to any of the other lasts, i also prefer the "tidier" look of a double monk vs. the look of a Single monk..but truthfulky, and i really mean this but, you cant go wrong with either style...i think the franciscan could be dressier, but since it is walnut, perhaps not....i can only say that i receive compliments whenever i wear my bourbon M2's...cant go wrong with it.
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Does anyone know what last the Hillsboro is on? It's a discontinued semi-brogue monkstrap. It looks similar to the Franciscan, but instead of a chiseled toe, it's round.
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If I'm not mistaken, those RL Singleton's are made for AE in Bangor, ME by Highland Shoe Company.

 

I KNOW I'm not mistaken that they are well built and great looking.

 

And I'm absolutely positive that getting those for $125 is a steal, despite a cosmetic blip or two.

 

I own the Singletons (in tan and in brown both) and absolutely love them.  I think I paid $149 for each pair of seconds.

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Brown suede Lucca 1sts I scored during the 2 for 250 sale landed today. Joins his other two Italian line brothers, Verona and Modena. Just insanely comfortable. I think I could wear these as house slippers. A few more sales and I'll be able to wear AE's Italian collection every day of the week. I never even liked bit loafers before I tried one of these on. Once you try them on and feel how comfortable they are, they go from looking "80's Wall St d-bag" to "sleek and classic."

What would you guys wear the Lucca with? I say it's suede and a loafer, so it's casual. My wife says the shiny horse bit makes it too "fancy" for anything short of a suit.
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Toronto Members,

Where did you guys get your belts to match your walnut strand and color chili? I don't feel to spend $100 bucks on a belt from AE.

Yes I'm asking for a bargain here. No flames shog[1].gif
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A really great video on AE shoes made circa 1940. I don't presume AE still makes shoes with those exact procedures anymore.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qoAXzhWw6M

 

 

AE should definitely bring back shoe socks! By the way, can shoes really bend like that? (toward the end of the video). 

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Hello,

 

How tight is the new shoe supposed to fit.

 

I got 9.5E PA, I tired it it was snug fit. I returned it (Due to a defect) and got a different salesman to measure my feet. This one said I should be wearing 10D. It was a more loose fit with a little more wiggle room to my pinky toe, but also has a little more heel slipage, which I was told was normal. For 9.5E I can make the eyelet tab more parallel (if that matters).

 

I also got 10D Delray and it is like super loose (which is weird because placed sole to sole the 10D PA is wider). I am going to switch that into a 9.5D which fit snug and comfortable when I tired in store.

 

Is it weird to have 9.5D in 8 last and 10D in 5 last (which supposedly is already longer..). I imagine 9.5E for 5 last is the more logical choice (sorry I am OCD about the size being different..)

 

The reason I am asking is because I am planning to get more shoes in 5 last and trying to decide between 9.5E and 10D.

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Originally Posted by Spiker View Post

Hello,

How tight is the new shoe supposed to fit.

I got 9.5E PA, I tired it it was snug fit. I returned it (Due to a defect) and got a different salesman to measure my feet. This one said I should be wearing 10D. It was a more loose fit with a little more wiggle room to my pinky toe, but also has a little more heel slipage, which I was told was normal. For 9.5E I can make the eyelet tab more parallel (if that matters).

I also got 10D Delray and it is like super loose (which is weird because placed sole to sole the 10D PA is wider). I am going to switch that into a 9.5D which fit snug and comfortable when I tired in store.

Is it weird to have 9.5D in 8 last and 10D in 5 last (which supposedly is already longer..). I imagine 9.5E for 5 last is the more logical choice (sorry I am OCD about the size being different..)

The reason I am asking is because I am planning to get more shoes in 5 last and trying to decide between 9.5E and 10D.

More important to fit than length of the toe is getting the ball of your foot to fall into the widest part of the shoe. As long as you have a good fit in each last, don't worry about how you got there.

Also, having the same size sole does not guarantee that two different models will have the same volume dimensions inside. For example, my strands and kenilworths have identical footprints, but the latter is much roomier.
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How did you learn this? Can you share your intel?
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

How do you know what is or isn't included?

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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

How did you learn this? Can you share your intel?

im unwilling to disclose my exact source as I have a pretty good relationship with my local allen edmondsband I dont wish to jeopardize anyones job nor my rapport with my retailer...I can only say that a store associate told me that its not going to be in the sale, based on her "preliminary" sale list....however she did also say that a couple more styles could be added the list as the sale date approaches, but I wouldnt hang my hat on that being one of the styles

I was in a retail store today and a SA was going over some sale shoes that wouldn't start till April with another customer. He laughed at the McNeil saying he could see why it was on sale...geez. So I guess it's not to closely held. I didn't ask to what was on it but I thought she pointed out the Franciscan. Which I want as well. Though bourbon would be awesome.
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