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Another note...it's amazing how different cordovan shoes look after a little care. i got my black Leeds last night. Out of the box they looked like junk. Within the hour I had them looking like shoes befitting their price tag. I think AE would do better with their cordovan sales if they didn't let every cordovan shoe on the shelf look like a dried out piece of beef jerky.

My Leeds now bring back memories of dad's USAF dress attire.
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We are a fickle, picky bunch aren't we?

True. But then again, most of the non-fickle, non-picky folks won't drop $300 on a pair of shoes, seconds no less, nor $500+ on a pair of firsts!
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True. But then again, most of the non-fickle, non-picky folks won't drop $300 on a pair of shoes, seconds no less, nor $500+ on a pair of firsts!

 

That is so true. And to top it off...we think $300 for a pair of shoes is an ABSOLUTE STEAL!!!

 

 

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That is so true. And to top it off...we think $300 for a pair of shoes is an ABSOLUTE STEAL!!!


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That is so true. And to top it off...we think $300 for a pair of shoes is an ABSOLUTE STEAL!!!

 

 


 

... And I am sure in 20, 30, 40 years, while I am still wearing all these shell cordovan shoes, it will be even more so!  fing02[1].gif

 

I was mentioning to my wife last night, that some of these shoes might last me through my entire career (roughly 30 more years) and hopefully many years of retirement.  A sobering thought. 

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I like the look of flush metal taps but have never had them installed. One consideration would be to look at your older shoes and see where they wear the most as a result of your gait. I tend to wear toes more than heels but since most of my shoes only get a wear a week, it takes a long time to need a re-sole. I think the shoe care thread had a good discussion about flush mount taps. They look (and sound) cool IMO. The plastic version that's not flush looks cheap IMO.

I've had the non-flush, plastic toe taps put on two pairs of shoes. They do look cheap and definitely do not look as cool as the flush mounts, but I have to balance the cheapness of their looks when people can see the bottom of my shoes with the wear they save on the toe of my shoes, which is visible at all times. Might have to ask my cobbler if he does the flush kind.

As for Winston S's problems with his Strands, there are definitely some significant issues there that would certainly bug me for $300 shoes. However, I think the awesomeness of AE's 2nds program tends to cause us to forget that these shoes are designated as 2nds because they supposedly have significant defects that would prevent people from paying full price for them. Not saying Winston shouldn't return and hope for better luck next time, just that everyone should buy 2nds understanding that there's a reason that good-year welted, full-grain leather, American-made shoes are so cheap. So anyway, that's a long way of saying that I'd keep 'em if AE didn't have another pair of 2nds in my size.
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I was mentioning to my wife last night, that some of these shoes might last me through my entire career (roughly 30 more years) and hopefully many years of retirement.  A sobering thought. 



You mean many "happy" years of retirement.  I wish you every success in that regard.

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Just got my five year old Colton's back from the cobbler with some new toes:
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high rez
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Received my Walnut Shell Strand seconds a few hours ago and am a little disappointed and debating whether I should keep them...

What do guys think? Biggest issues are the heel and the medallion. Would you keep?

I really can't tell how much te medallion is off but I have been looking using my phone. The heel is always going to vary because it depends on how well the trimmer rounds the heel out. My experience with shoes is that there is always a difference (even with my C&J, Alden, and to some extent my Grenson Masterpiece).

If you NEED the shoes, are you willing to pay $200 more for first quality? Psychologically, if you wear them enough, you will eventually habituate to them being off centered and not notice. I have a pair of shoes with the broguing off at the toe; they bothered me at first but after 6 months I stopped thinking about it.

Sorry Your Strands have those issues. Mine have minor issues (cut of leather heel counters could be better) but otherwise negligible. I hope my Cambridge are okay.
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If you NEED the shoes, are you willing to pay $200 more for first quality? Psychologically, if you wear them enough, you will eventually habituate to them being off centered and not notice. I have a pair of shoes with the broguing off at the toe; they bothered me at first but after 6 months I stopped thinking about it.

Does anyone really NEED $300 - $600 cordovan shoes?

I'm going to sleep on it and decide what to do on Monday.

Thanks for the thoughts so far.
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I NEED $8k bespoke cordovan shell, but I'll settle for AE seconds  .  .  .

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Received my Walnut Shell Strand seconds a few hours ago and am a little disappointed and debating whether I should keep them. I knew there might be issues considering that these were the last ones in my size. These are quite a bit rougher than the MacNeils I received a few weeks ago.Excuse the poor camera pictures.
The medallion was punched off-centered on the right shoe (left foot) in this picture.
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Another picture showing the off centered medallion.
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This shows how far off the medallion was punched on the left shoe[ Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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This shows the distance between the medallion and the sole on the right shoe
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The width of the heels are different
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The length of the heels are different
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Black marks on the upper near the welt
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More black marks near welt
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Scuff, I think this is OK, I can live with this
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Discoloration on toe, I think this is OK, I can live with this
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Discoloration near lacing, I think this is OK, I can live with this
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What do guys think? Biggest issues are the heel and the medallion. Would you keep?

i can only really tell the difference from the first picture, not so much on the second picture. and the rest of them I can live with, plus the price is right!
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I say Player, but they are so different. I know you said casual. The Neumok is really rustic looking. The Player to me looks so much cooler and more versatile. You could wear them casually, but also wear them out to dinner and bars and such and look good.

I was thinking the same thing -- I think the Neumok even in suede has a much more deconstructed look that might cause its versatility to be limited. It also seems that the stitching on the Neumok is lighter which I think makes them even more casual. Thanks for your input!
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That's an excellent question and one I've considered as well. I think the suede version of the Players and Neumok are both fine choices but I like the blucher Players a bit more than the balmoral Neumok. It's just personal preference but since it's a casual warm weather shoe, I always thought a suede blucher would be a perfect spring/summer shoe, more so than a bal but that's just one man's opinion. I also think the colored laces are a nice touch. Incidentally, Edward, Freeport Store Mgr was wearing the snuff suede Players yesterday when I got the Leeds. He even had some nice red laces. I thought it was a great looking shoe and with the 80 degree weather we've had for the last couple of weeks, I was tempted. I haven't seen the Neumok in person however, so that could be a factor to consider. Neither's a bad choice, that's for sure. I've been seeing lots of Navy suede around the forum lately and the Players is available in navy. That may look nice.

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Happy Birthday! Mine's next month...I'm quickly approaching middle age...42 is middle aged, isn't it? I think I am in fact middle aged now.  peepwall%5B1%5D.gif


Thanks for the Birthday wishes -- and for your input! How did the Players look with the red laces? I never though much about the colored laces until looking at the Neumok (and some other shoes lately) but am very interested to hear how the color laces looked on the Player. I tend to like Balmoral's better in general, but I think you might be right -- as a spring/summer shoe a blucher is a great choice (and hence this is why I was really having my issue deciding between the two).

How was the snuff suede? I'm afraid its too light and therefore hard to keep clean. Any thoughts on that? Would you go with the snuff or the bitter chocolate for versatility?

Thanks again!!
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The Neumok and Players Shoe are both good choices.  Go with the one that fits better.  The #2 last on the Players Shoe is narrower in the toe box.  This may or may not be a problem. 

This was another factor confusing my issue. I have Strands, Fifth Aves and Park Aves and the Neumok is on the 5-last which I really like so far on my foot. Might have to give the 2 a shot though!
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I found the Neumok to be an incredibly poor fitting shoe. I tried on 4-5 different sizes and nothing fit right. Plus, I hate elongated toes.
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Does anyone really NEED $300 - $600 cordovan shoes?
I'm going to sleep on it and decide what to do on Monday.
Thanks for the thoughts so far.

That's what I usually do and (sometimes) I later decide to pass. I know it's not an option but I wonder if these shoes were re-lasted and have the re-attached if it could be re-aligned. Pragmatically I know this does not make sense but curious about the secret magic of cobblers. smile.gif
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