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Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post
 

Still obsessing over my Shaker Heights makeup.

 

I asked in another thread here and on AAAC about leathers that were good for all weather while remaining relatively dressy.  A response I hadn't anticipated was Scotch grain.  As I was recently considering some grain MacNeil seconds, I tried to research AE's grain leather and found this neat 50s-vintage shortwing from an apparently German retailer.  Cool shoe--very cool site: http://www.classicshoesformen.com/shoes/neuwertig-circa-1950-all-weather-allen-edmonds-full-brogue-oxford43-435c.

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What I haven't found, however, is much useful information.  What's the forum's general opinion of current grain offerings?  Is the leather high quality, or does it look and feel like plastic?  I've seen some debate one whether Scotch grain is necessarily "corrected grain"; presumably it can be made from any quality of calf or cow hide.

 

I don't know if I'd care for a full boot in this--especially in a plain toe.  If I went this route with my Shaker Heights I would consider keeping the tweed (and a can of Scotchgard) after all.

This is almost the same as my MTO that should be here sometime next month (or the month after).  I will post pictures when they arrive.  I wanted something that looked like English country shoes.

McAllister

Walnut Grain Calf

Brown Stitching 

Brown Split Reverse Welt

Wheeled Edge

Brass Grommets On Eyelets

Flat Laces

Poiron Insole

Black Dainite Sole

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I've got a pair of black calf Strands, with a combination v-tap sole, that I bought before I knew my real size, so they've only been worn a handful of time. Wondering if anyone here would be interested, size 13D. Might put them on the bay, but thought i'd check here first.

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

New and smooth. My cobbler specifically pointed out that if you accidentally stepped in oil or grease it could make the topy not stick as well. That said, it's not the end of the world if you wore them some before deciding.
I think most cobblers sand the sole a little before applying the adhesive for the Topy, so I would say new and smooth is not ideal, and agree that a little wear is fine.
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Originally Posted by Nakedsnake View Post

This thread is soon going to be inundated with photos showing how AE really dropped the ball by putting the Eagle County on that horrid wedged sole. Its a beautiful boot, and the two posted thus far are sublime, but it has made on a more agreeable sole. They would be smart to bring it back with a few small tweaks.
Totally agree, the boot is so much better on a regular sole rather than a wedge/Christy.

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Originally Posted by DJTraveler View Post

Folks, the Eagle has landed.  My MTO Eagle County has landed.  Couldn't be more pleased!!!!!  Thanks to GOP Shoe Guy for the inspiration.

*2066 BOURBON CALF

*TONE ON TONE UPPER STITCHING

*BURNISH MORE HEAVILY ON TOES AND HEEL

*BLACK SPLIT REVERSE WELT

*LEATHER MIDSOLE

*TOBY MINI LUG OUTSOLE

*BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING

Straight out of the box in darker lighting: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




With lighting:







These are awesome, well done.

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Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post

What I haven't found, however, is much useful information.  What's the forum's general opinion of current grain offerings?  Is the leather high quality, or does it look and feel like plastic?  I've seen some debate one whether Scotch grain is necessarily "corrected grain"; presumably it can be made from any quality of calf or cow hide.
I thought scotch grain leather was just stamped leather, so I don't see why they couldn't be high quality leather.
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Originally Posted by Septimus View Post

Any thoughts on these?
Worth getting and then just sending in for recrafting?
Assuming there are no defects on them, it's a toss up between these and seconds in the upcoming sale. These would be better if there were no defects with them. From the pictures I can't see any.
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Originally Posted by d4nimal View Post

This looks badass and not at all the profile I thought it had - I think people had mentioned they had to change the make as they got slapped with a lawsuit (I may be thinking of the wrong boot).  What it used to look like was clearly a work/casual boot with a much stubbier/bulbous toe, but these would be comfortable as a crossover.  I actually like them more than the bayfields, which I always admired.  Can't wait to see yours if you decide to change.
I actually prefer the look over these over the Bayfields as I feel that the Bayfields have a stubbier cap toe.
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Originally Posted by Evolve View Post

Gents, I need to pick up a pair of black captoes soon, and I'm curious to hear opinions on Fifth Avenues as a go-to shoe for job interviews, weddings, funerals, etc. Does the broguing along the cap render these shoes inappropriate for conservative environments, or am I overthinking it?

Also, thoughts on the Brooks Brothers version of the Fifth Avenue, with the combination sole and Poron footbed? These are available in my size for $199 during the upcoming seconds sale.
It's not the end of the world, but for conservative environments you are better off with a non-perforated captoe like the Park Avenue.
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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post

Looking for some insight from cordovan owners.

I would think it's more preferable to purchase shells in casual shoes rathan than formal shoes due to the shine and additional thickness/bulk. I know this is highly subjective, but would you guys prefer a shell leed or sheel FA?
Not sure what you mean by the shine as you can achieve a great shine with shell too. I personally don't love plain toes, so I would lean towards the Fifth avenue solely on the cap toe.
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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post

Has anyone seen these on the AE website yet? Pretty cool and a great gift for that buddy who's a Shell Fan:

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF99901A_1_40000000001_-1_

Allen Edmonds Cordovan Teardrop Key Fob 99901A Assorted Cordovan

This is a great price on shell anything.
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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post

I'd be interested to see if prices for other makers are going to go up. It's hard to justify AE shells at $650 for me when Alden's are pretty much the same price.
Seems like quality control and customer service are better with AE though.
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Originally Posted by Subutai View Post

As Mdubs and Cold Iron mentioned a few pages ago, it's usually unnecessary to change sizes for shell vs calf. The fit might be slightly different, but I'll add my voice to the many who has plenty who keeps consistent sizing.
 
The 5 Last is generally the most narrow that AE offers. With the 5, some people go down a (1/2) size and up a width. Simply going down a size might make the shoes too narrow. It's actually interesting that you sized down for the Kenilworth as compared to the Strands as they're both on the 5 aren't they? I tend to just go up a width when buying shoes on the 5 last. So I usually wear a 8.5E, I go 8.5EE. Of course, everyone's feet are different. It's also worth mentioning that most AE SA's will suggest going TTS regardless of last. 

After all that it seems I didn't really answer your question! ..... but yeah, from what you've posted, I'd give 8D a shot. 
I think consensus is that you size down 0.5 sizes in the Kenliworths from your 5 last size.
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Originally Posted by chris45 View Post

Bah me again on a sizing question.. How to size on the MacNeil's? I'm 8.5D in Strand (almost fully closed laces) with good fit (not heel slip, etc.) and 8D in Kenilworth (nice lace width) with good fit.

I think I read go down 1/2 size from 5 last.. so was thinking 8D in MacNeil? And is shell any different?

And I don't recall where it was answered where I saw last, but what is the fit on Long Branch.. I see a pair I'm eyeing closely..
Shell is a little looser, but I don't think enough to size down.
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Originally Posted by d4nimal View Post

Am I the first to post pics of his MTO Eagle County?  Here they are off foot and in service (did not take any top down shots - I think it makes legs look like trunks and feet like little stubs).  My first MTO and I love it.

Specs:

Eagle County MTO
2066 Walnut Calf
Brass Eyelets, 3 Speed Hooks
Dark Brown Contrast Stitching
Independence Lining and Insole
Black Split Reverse Welt
Toby Mini Lug
Brown Transparent Edge Dressing

I placed the order mid December and they arrived today.  And all for $197.  I'll be waiting to see everyone else's.
Great makeup here too.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I just received a pair pf clifton's Allison sent me as a trial pair. I was astonished how much sleeker they are compared to my plaza lasted bluchers. Really diggin the last on these may just keep them to satiate myself until my mto is ready.
The 8 last is my favorite last so far. Nice and sleek, but not chiseled.
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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post

Since cordovans are constructed a bit roomier than calf counterparts, is it necessary to downsize by a half if the calf size is a tad roomy to begin with?
If the calf is loose on you already, I would definitely try sizing down.
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Originally Posted by DJTraveler View Post
 

Folks, the Eagle has landed.  My MTO Eagle County has landed.  Couldn't be more pleased!!!!!  Thanks to GOP Shoe Guy for the inspiration.

 

*2066 BOURBON CALF
*TONE ON TONE UPPER STITCHING
*BURNISH MORE HEAVILY ON TOES AND HEEL
*BLACK SPLIT REVERSE WELT
*LEATHER MIDSOLE
*TOBY MINI LUG OUTSOLE
*BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING

 

Straight out of the box in darker lighting:

 

 

With lighting:

 

 

AWESOME - congrats and well thought out.  Before I ordered mine I was turning over the idea of whether or not to make it bourbon instead of walnut like I did.  Glad to see if I had it would have still turned out like this - very similar, sort of a darker more mysterious cousin.

 

I can only hope AE puts out more otherwise beautiful boots with some random ugly choices and then puts them on clearance so we can fix them at a ludicrous price.  Congrats again and thanks for the pics.  

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I feel like this is a dumb question, but oh well.

 

 

I purchased a new 100% horsehair brush for my shell Macneils.  I had an AE brush that was pretty new, but defective (hair EVERYWHERE during brushing).  I started using the new brush and it's almost as if it dulls/scratches the leather.  What's the deal?

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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post
 

 

I wouldn't even know how to describe these boots to Allison.

 

"I think I want to replace the tweed with leather, but not just any leather...leather scored with a checkerboard pattern."

 

OptoDoc:  are you thinking of using a scotch or pebble grain on the tweed portion?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post
 

Still obsessing over my Shaker Heights makeup.

 

I asked in another thread here and on AAAC about leathers that were good for all weather while remaining relatively dressy.  A response I hadn't anticipated was Scotch grain.  As I was recently considering some grain MacNeil seconds, I tried to research AE's grain leather and found this neat 50s-vintage shortwing from an apparently German retailer.  Cool shoe--very cool site: http://www.classicshoesformen.com/shoes/neuwertig-circa-1950-all-weather-allen-edmonds-full-brogue-oxford43-435c.

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 75

 

What I haven't found, however, is much useful information.  What's the forum's general opinion of current grain offerings?  Is the leather high quality, or does it look and feel like plastic?  I've seen some debate one whether Scotch grain is necessarily "corrected grain"; presumably it can be made from any quality of calf or cow hide.

 

I don't know if I'd care for a full boot in this--especially in a plain toe.  If I went this route with my Shaker Heights I would consider keeping the tweed (and a can of Scotchgard) after all.

 

WiCaniac:  Scotch grain can still be high quality calfskin.  It is technically corrected grain based on the process that creates the pebble effect.  This process also makes the calfskin more water resistant, which is why it is so popular for winter wear.  C&J does a great job with boots and shoes that combine a Danite sole, storm welt and scotch grain.

 

LL

 

 

 

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Based on Patrick B's pictures, the C&J Islay is at the top of my want list right now as my go-to boot:

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Hey guys,

How do I get on the email for up coming sales on seconds? I only knew about it early because of SF and Dappered.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post

Hey guys,

How do I get on the email for up coming sales on seconds? I only knew about it early because of SF and Dappered.

Thanks,

We all heard by Shoe Bank directly, via retail/outlet stores, online here, etc. -- If you are registered on their email list (you have purchased shoes from them and gave them an email address), you should be getting all the other random sale email blasts they do..

 

Unless others have got a specific email referring to the Factory seconds sale... I've got all the other email blasts but have just heard directly about the big sale..

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Originally Posted by evolved View Post
 

I feel like this is a dumb question, but oh well.

 

 

I purchased a new 100% horsehair brush for my shell Macneils.  I had an AE brush that was pretty new, but defective (hair EVERYWHERE during brushing).  I started using the new brush and it's almost as if it dulls/scratches the leather.  What's the deal?

 

You might be brushing too vigorously, or you may have some dry shell. I've recently found that I could get a very good "glaze" or shine on my AE shells by applying some Saphir Cordovan Cream and letting it sit 5-10 minutes before brushing. I don't even buff with a cloth since it seems to ruin the shine. I think Renovateur and Ventian Shoe Cream work the same for shell, but I have the best results with the Saphir cordovan cream.

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Is it possible to have too much burgundy shell? I have in shell:

1)Burgundy Macneils

2)Burgundy PA

3)Burgundy Dalton

 

I'm looking to get a PTB since that's a "gap" in my lineup and thinking of pulling the trigger during this sale for the shell Leeds. I deally, I'd want a brown shell PTB, but maybe the burgundy worls in the same situations? The alternative is a brown shell Norwich. In some ways I think of a single monk as a PTB with a buckle instead of laces.

 

I'd be wearing them in business casual (wool dress pants, chinos) and casually with jeans.

 

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by chris45 View Post

We all heard by Shoe Bank directly, via retail/outlet stores, online here, etc. -- If you are registered on their email list (you have purchased shoes from them and gave them an email address), you should be getting all the other random sale email blasts they do..

Unless others have got a specific email referring to the Factory seconds sale... I've got all the other email blasts but have just heard directly about the big sale..

Well I'm on the regular mailing list and I do receive emails about sales but nothing about seconds sales.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post
 

Is it possible to have too much burgundy shell? I have in shell:

1)Burgundy Macneils

2)Burgundy PA

3)Burgundy Dalton

 

I'm looking to get a PTB since that's a "gap" in my lineup and thinking of pulling the trigger during this sale for the shell Leeds. I deally, I'd want a brown shell PTB, but maybe the burgundy worls in the same situations? The alternative is a brown shell Norwich. In some ways I think of a single monk as a PTB with a buckle instead of laces.

 

I'd be wearing them in business casual (wool dress pants, chinos) and casually with jeans.

 

Thanks!

 

It's not possible to have too much shell.  ;-)  I have the Norwiches and like them.  And, both burgundy and black Leeds should be on their way to me in the next few days, courtesy of the sale.

 

Have you thought about Dundees?  I have burgundy, brown, and truffle/cappuccino and love them all.  The latter two colors in particular are pretty spectacular, but the truffle/cappuccino is basically extinct so you'd be left with the brown.  I consider the Dundee to be basically a PTB on steroids and I wouldn't hesitate to wear them in any situation where a PTB would be appropriate, including the situations you're describing.

 

Of course, if you go the Allison route and don't mind paying full freight, you could have a brown Leeds made up.  That would be a pretty sweet shoe too.

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Commercial announcement here . . . I'm thinking of unloading my walnut calf Daltons.  Now that I have the shells, there's just no room for them on the rack any longer.  9.5 E, seconds but you really can't tell, purchased new last summer and worn fewer than 10 times since then.  PM me if you think you might be interested - I should be able to cut you a good deal.  Thanks for your consideration and sorry for the interruption!

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

 

It's not possible to have too much shell.  ;-)  I have the Norwiches and like them.  And, both burgundy and black Leeds should be on their way to me in the next few days, courtesy of the sale.

 

Have you thought about Dundees?  I have burgundy, brown, and truffle/cappuccino and love them all.  The latter two colors in particular are pretty spectacular, but the truffle/cappuccino is basically extinct so you'd be left with the brown.  I consider the Dundee to be basically a PTB on steroids and I wouldn't hesitate to wear them in any situation where a PTB would be appropriate, including the situations you're describing.

 

Of course, if you go the Allison route and don't mind paying full freight, you could have a brown Leeds made up.  That would be a pretty sweet shoe too.

 

Thanks for your response. I am looking at the Dundees, I'm trying to see if they are available still. I convinced myself out of them, but now they are back inthe running.  I might go with a CXL Leeds MTO since I want something pretty casual for the PTB. I'm convincing myself that I have to get something during this shell sale since the price jumped up another $55 for firsts this year.

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