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Originally Posted by hoit1981 View Post

Presumably if your AE shoes came with JR's they would replace them with JR's?

Right. They will put the original style sole on any shoe at recraft. If you want to CHANGE the sole, they only have six options:

 

Single leather

Double leather

V Tread combination

Mini Lug

Wilbert style rubber

Ashton style rubber

 

Here's the recrafting order form. You can see the options under "Sole Conversion"

http://content.allenedmonds.com/pdf/AERecraftingForm_Final_Interactive_LR.pdf

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Originally Posted by ryansto View Post

Right. They will put the original style sole on any shoe at recraft. If you want to CHANGE the sole, they only have six options:

Single leather
Double leather
V Tread combination
Mini Lug
Wilbert style rubber
Ashton style rubber

Here's the recrafting order form. You can see the options under "Sole Conversion"
http://content.allenedmonds.com/pdf/AERecraftingForm_Final_Interactive_LR.pdf

Hmmm. I wonder if they would use dainite or vibram gumlight if you asked?
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by ryansto View Post

Right. They will put the original style sole on any shoe at recraft. If you want to CHANGE the sole, they only have six options:

Single leather
Double leather
V Tread combination
Mini Lug
Wilbert style rubber
Ashton style rubber

Here's the recrafting order form. You can see the options under "Sole Conversion"
http://content.allenedmonds.com/pdf/AERecraftingForm_Final_Interactive_LR.pdf

Hmmm. I wonder if they would use dainite or vibram gumlight if you asked?


Maybe Allison's got the recraft hook-up . . .

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 


Maybe Allison's got the recraft hook-up . . .

I filled in the special instructions section so we shall see what they say. 

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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

Hmmm. I wonder if they would use dainite or vibram gumlight if you asked?
I had splendid luck getting my Wilberts resoled with gumlite... through B. Nelson in NYC, in just under three weeks from when it left my doorstep to when it got back.
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Originally Posted by random-adam View Post


I had splendid luck getting my Wilberts resoled with gumlite... through B. Nelson in NYC, in just under three weeks from when it left my doorstep to when it got back.

Would you mind posting a picture? I have Trickers on gumlite and I am deciding whether I want to resole them with gumlite or Dainite. 

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Are you guys sure its necessary to use shoe trees with unstructured shoes like the suede Amok? Im looking at them with shoe trees in them and it seems like the trees are stretching out the soft, pliable leather.

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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post
 

Are you guys sure its necessary to use shoe trees with unstructured shoes like the suede Amok? Im looking at them with shoe trees in them and it seems like the trees are stretching out the soft, pliable leather.

 

Yes, you should still use them. Keeping form is only one benefit of shoe trees… they also absorb your foot sweat.

 

If you're worries about stretching the suede, go down a size.

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Originally Posted by sqroot3 View Post

I've had this happen with new Alden shell and, to some extent, my shell Leeds. I find that the shell gets much more resistant to brush marks and those pinpoint light-colored pinheads over the first several wears. Not quite sure why--maybe oxidation or aging of the finish as it's exposed to more air? In any case, you don't need to go crazy on the brushing the first few wears--try again in a week and see if it's any better. Keep us posted...
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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post
 

I'm having a slow process with my Shell Leeds.  I stripped them down to almost bare and then after much brushing I strted adding light layers of cordovan polish (Saphir).  I find that my shoe seems to do better if it gets worn, almost as if the heat from my foot and the bending of the shoe releases the natural oil or something. 

So, my advice, try wearing them in the office or at home, or while driving to work- somewhere that you are alone- and keep wearing/brushing for a week and see what happens? 

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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post
 

I have found the same thing happening with mine. Until recently, I have only used the Mac method. I have started using venetian shoe cream on my shell, and it helps immensely. Also, for my burgundy shell Daltons, they had been brushed so much they were starting to get a dry look to them. I bought some AE Cordovan Creme (I know, many here are not fans) and applied it. The first time I wore the Daltons after that I had multiple comments on my boots. 

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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post

FWIW, I've tried reno, saphir cordovan cream, venetian, AE cordovan cream, deer bone and Alden leather defender on a number of my AE shells.

I find that AE cream actually does a good job giving it a luster compared to everything else except Alden Leather Defender. The leather defender is amazing at leaving a glow/shine after some buffing. It's weird, I know but I apply it every few months for water protection and it really seems to bring some life into the shell.

 

Thanks for all of the advice. Sounds like it's likely drying out. I don't have Venetian Shoe Cream or a polishing bone, but I might try some Saphir Renovateur to see if that helps.

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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post

I have Walnut Strands as well as Suede Strands (which have the insoles you're questioning). Both are comfortable but I do indeed see a change in fit. As best as I can describe it, the poron insole takes up slightly more space in the shoe and therefore gives your foot less volume or space in the shoe. Thus, for me at least, the vamp on my suede strands doesn't close nearly as tightly as my walnut strands. This doesn't bother me at all but I know that some guys really don't like it. But like I said - very comfortable (although the Dainite soles may have something to do with that as well).

 

My understanding is that Brogue Suede Strands don't have a Poron insole, and instead have an added sock liner over the standard leather insole:

 

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Fantastic!  Thanks again for the investigation JS!  That is just a sock liner then.  AE has been experimenting with putting sock liners in some models (the Patriot has one too).  It is nothing different than what you find in pretty much all other nice Goodyear-welted shoes.  In fact, AE has been pretty much the only company that doesn't use them.  

 

Remember, their primary purpose is to cover up the nails that are driven through the insole to attach the heel.  However, AE doesn't drive nails through the insole like all the other Goodyear-welted shoe manufacturers do.  Thus, the sock liner isn't "necessary."  Some people enjoy the added cushion that it provides for the heel, and have considered it to be one of the negatives against AE for not using them over the years.  Personally, I don't really care.  I'm perfectly happy to buy a pair with them though.  It's nothing more than a thin leather covered cushion that is adhered to the top of the insole.  They don't affect the potential longevity of the shoe in a negative way (the way the full Poron insoles may), and can be easily pulled out and replaced as needed.  

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Does anyone know if you can do an MTO with exposed eyelets in a color other than "antique brass"?
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

Would you mind posting a picture? I have Trickers on gumlite and I am deciding whether I want to resole them with gumlite or Dainite. 
I don't have one handy of the bottom of the shoe, but here's what they looked like the day after I got 'em back:



Found out later that they're able to use a darker stitching if asked -- but as casual as they are I didn't mind the lighter contrast, and it got darker anyway within a couple of months.
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post
 

 

Thanks for all of the advice. Sounds like it's likely drying out. I don't have Venetian Shoe Cream or a polishing bone, but I might try some Saphir Renovateur to see if that helps.

 

Reno will help, but I'd also look into getting some Venetian.  I spent the weekend cleaning up my shoes with Venetian, and they looked great afterward.  I use Reno to help remove the original product that AE puts on their shells, but sparingly after that.  

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Originally Posted by BobStrauss View Post
 

 

 

Thanks! This is exactly what I wanted to know. 

 

Also interesting to read about this "roll" phenomenon. 

 

Shell will have some inconsistencies in coloration, as mentioned.  See (#8 or "burgundy in AE's lingo) Kenwoods when new (after I removed AE's cream applied at the factory):

 

 

Rolls vs Creases (tassel loafers are calf, others are black shell): 

 

 

    

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Sizing question.. how does Neumok compare with the Strand (8.5D) and Kenilworth (8D) in sizing?  

 

Really would rather not go back to the store for ANOTHER sizing so soon after the last, lol =]

 

And PA would be the same sizing as Strand, correct?

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