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Can I get your advise on how well my 9D Strands fit? Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe. I was thinking this is because the 5 last is the most elongated last of AE. Aside from this I have no problems with the shoe. My foot doesn't slip around inside the shoe whenever I walk. I can lace the shoe completely so I don't think there is a problem with the width.

 

Should I move down to a 8.5D for my next 5 last model?

 

Sadly going to an AE outlet is not an option as it is not available in my country.

 

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Can anyone describe the difference of CXL and Dublin leather?  Thinking of an MTO boot and want to see which one to specify.  Thanks.
I'd ask Horween themselves. I've e-mailed them before, they where pretty helpful. http://horween.com/contact/
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Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe.

Shoe length does not matter. It's a weird thing to hear, but so long as your toes aren't uncomfortable against the front of the shoe it is true. More information here from the folks who make the brannock device.

Short version: heel-to-ball measurement is most reliable for getting the correct shoe size, especially on longer lasts like AE's 5.

Don't go by how much space is in front of your toes. Go by where the ball of your foot sits in relation to the widest part of the shoe.
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Originally Posted by jpjdavid83 View Post

Can I get your advise on how well my 9D Strands fit? Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe. I was thinking this is because the 5 last is the most elongated last of AE. Aside from this I have no problems with the shoe. My foot doesn't slip around inside the shoe whenever I walk. I can lace the shoe completely so I don't think there is a problem with the width.

Should I move down to a 8.5D for my next 5 last model?

Overall, the shoe does not fit, in my opinon.

The quarters of a new shoe should not close. The vamp keeps your heel in place, and prevents your feet from being pushed into the shoe tip when you walk. This is why you see the gap in the back of your heel.

Generally speaking, half an inch is the recommended minimum space in front of your toes. Elongated lasts have more, depending on the style of the shoe tip and the current fashion. For instance, Western boots need quite a bit more space, because no-one has a foot shape that pointy.

The problem is to measure it correctly. When you kneel down to get your fingers to the shoes, you take the load off your foot which makes it a bit shorter. In other words, the usual thumb test creates the impression of having more space than you really have when you walk. Additionally, you may not know whether a particular shoe is meant to have more space by design.

The minimum space is meant to keep your toes from being pressed together while walking, because the rolling movement makes the shoe a bit shorter.

This is why it is sometimes not a good idea to go down in size. It will reduce the volume of the shoe, but it will also make it shorter, moving your toes closer to the tip.

Try the Allen Edmonds sizing guide. Ignore the width, and only measure the lenght. You can substract half a size to get your correct size.

If that turns out to be US 8.5, you should switch. If it's more, you may try the C of B width of the last.
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Try the Allen Edmonds sizing guide. Ignore the width, and only measure the lenght. You can substract half a size to get your correct size.

If that turns out to be US 8.5, you should switch. If it's more, you may try the C of B width of the last.

 

I did actually use their sizing guide which led me ordering a size 9. Size 8.5 is starting to become more logical now.

 
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Short version: heel-to-ball measurement is most reliable for getting the correct shoe size, especially on longer lasts like AE's 5.

 

Thanks i'll try to get a measurement of my heel to ball and compare it against my heel to toe.

 

Appreciate all your inputs.

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Thanks again to Cold Iron for his "Mac method while they're still warm" suggestion - if I may say so myself, the brown shell Strands are looking pretty sweet right about now:

 

How old are these?  Asking because the brown seemed to have lightened up.  They actually look olive to me.  I like it.

 

Thanks!  I've only had them for a few months but they were seconds so I guess there's no telling what their history was before I got them.  However, what you're seeing as olive may be a trick of the light, as I don't really see that in person.

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Can I get your advise on how well my 9D Strands fit? Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe. I was thinking this is because the 5 last is the most elongated last of AE. Aside from this I have no problems with the shoe. My foot doesn't slip around inside the shoe whenever I walk. I can lace the shoe completely so I don't think there is a problem with the width.

 

Should I move down to a 8.5D for my next 5 last model?

 

Sadly going to an AE outlet is not an option as it is not available in my country.

 

 

Is there any bowing when you walk in them?  By "bowing" I mean flaring out at the sides, like in this pic:

 

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Originally Posted by jpjdavid83 View Post
 

Can I get your advise on how well my 9D Strands fit? Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe. I was thinking this is because the 5 last is the most elongated last of AE. Aside from this I have no problems with the shoe. My foot doesn't slip around inside the shoe whenever I walk. I can lace the shoe completely so I don't think there is a problem with the width.

 

Should I move down to a 8.5D for my next 5 last model?

 

Sadly going to an AE outlet is not an option as it is not available in my country.

 


agree with the excellent input already provided, but they definitely look too big. almost looks like it's the right size for a running shoe!

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Gents,

How many pairs of dress shoes should a man own in his wardrobe? I don't have to wear suits for work.

So far I have

Fifth Avenue's in Black
Kenilworth in dark brown
Lasalle in Chili - My latest pickup

Do you recommend two black shoes? Or is that too boring?
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Gents,

How many pairs shoes should a man own in his wardrobe?

I believe the answer to this question is n + 1
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Gents,

How many pairs shoes should a man own in his wardrobe?

I believe the answer to this question is n + 1

 

:rotflmao:

 

Yes, for a relatively small collection you can do better than two pairs of black shoes.  How about adding these three:

 

Strand in walnut

Patriot in merlot

Mora 2.0 in bourbon

 

These, plus the three you already have, would give you a pretty wide spectrum of colors and styles - something for basically every occasion plus plenty of room to rotate them (as you must do).

 

Or, you could be like any number of people who subscribe to this thread (myself included) and own 25 pairs or more.

 

:slayer:

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I believe the answer to this question is n + 1

What is n? Age in years? Number of suits? Number of days per week you wear 'nicer' shoes?

-Mike
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Shoe length does not matter. It's a weird thing to hear, but so long as your toes aren't uncomfortable against the front of the shoe it is true. More information here from the folks who make the brannock device.

Short version: heel-to-ball measurement is most reliable for getting the correct shoe size, especially on longer lasts like AE's 5.

Don't go by how much space is in front of your toes. Go by where the ball of your foot sits in relation to the widest part of the shoe.+

+1

 

I bought my first pair of AE's without knowing my true size. I've always had 11.5 in athletic shoes, so I went with an 11.5 D. Before purchasing my second pair I discovered that there is indeed an allen edmonds store in my area (an hour away), and I went in to have my foot measured only to find out I am a 10D on the brannock. Needless to say my first pair of AE shoes are very long, but they are comfortable, and there is no slippage at all. I've owned them since june and they are my favorite shoes (my second pair of AE's and soon to be my favorite are on the way). 

 

The only discomfort that comes from the shoes being longer than they should is that the ball of my foot doesn't line up exactly with where it should be in the shoe. This causes minimal discomfort on occasion.

 

So, in my experience, just as random-adam stated, as long as the ball of your foot is in the right place, and there is no slipping when you walk, the distance from your toe to the end of the shoe is not so important.

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I am just beginning my transition to nicer shoes.  I purchased three pairs of AE at Nordstrom's after Christmas.  All are in the $200 - $225 range.  I have two newbie questions.

 

 

 

 

1.  I really like the color of the Lasalle in Chili, but I like the Clifton style better.  I have tried both shoes on with several outfits and think that the Chili color is more versatile.  What would be the "classic" pant color(s) that the Clifton Brown would go with?  I am likely to only keep one of the shoes.

 

 

2.  The Clifton and Lasalle fit great.  They both seem like they were made the same way.  However, the Player's Shoe feels much smaller and I cannot wear it.  It is too tight on the top of my foot.  I assume that the shoes are made on different lasts.  The Lasalle is still on the AE web site and indicates that it is made on a welted 108 last.  The other two shoes are not active on their web site.  Does anyone know what lasts the other two shoes were made on?

 

Thank you.

 

@chris45 and @halfnhalfnhalf thank you for the AE sales info.

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What is n? Age in years? Number of suits? Number of days per week you wear 'nicer' shoes?

-Mike

at the risk of being the idiot that doesn't realize you are joking... I believe 'n' is the number of shoes you already own.

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