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So I just got off the phone with Allison about my MTO, and I know there were some interested parties, in regards to the options I had chosen. She told me that they were NOT able to do a 270 degree welt, that only 360 was an option. She said the independence lining is a little bit thicker than the normal lining, and only comes in one color (I opted for normal lining, hearing this). She also informed me that changing the piping on the EC was not an option, as this boot doesn't have piping. And lastly, she told me that on the Eagle County, the pull tab was something they couldn't remove. She is going to check everything she told me, since the factory workers are gone for two weeks or so, and then confirm, but she was confident is what she told me. Hope this helps anyone who needed some info.

 

So, as of now, my Eagle County Boots are as follows:

 

-Snuff Suede upper with normal lining (red of blue in color, we haven't confirmed)
-Tone on tone stitching
-Leather insole
-360 degree flat, brown welt and matching stitching
-Light brown transparent sole edge
-Top 4 speed hooks, the rest eyelets. I would like a brushed darkish metal, not sure of my options here.

-Mini Lug Tape sole.

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^^ Honestly it would bug me and that is the reason I don't buy seconds. I am quite OCD. If I buy a first and it has defects I feel OK about returning it. I don't like paying for something that is defected and then not being 'happy' with the defect. Granted I see a lot of people get seconds and report that they don't know why they are seconds, but I don't have that kind of luck. Therefore I avoid the situation entirely.

IMO I would not feel right returning a second quality shoe because it didn't end up having a defect that I could live with. I am probably in the minority.

 

I hear you.  I'm OCD about many things in my life, but thus far shoes haven't really been among them.  I have around 25 pairs of AEs now and the vast majority are seconds.  Of course, the more I read this thread, the more I learn, and the more I learn the more things like this stand out to me - which leads me to fear that even if it doesn't bug me now, it very well might later.

 

As far as returning "too defective" seconds is concerned, I don't hesitate to do it.  I figure AE expects us to - after all, they recently started charging the restocking fee, which I consider to be more or less their version of liquidated damages.  Also, it's not like they provide photographs of the defects before we buy.  If they did that and then had a "caveat emptor" policy, that would be a different matter.

 

FWIW, I've had people at the Shoe Bank tell me before they've sold me a second if they think it will be too defective for me, and I trust their judgment in that regard.  Sort of like the restaurants that set aside the crappy steaks for "well done", I guess.

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Does anyone have experience with recrafting who could speak about the shape of a shoe upon return? I take care of my uppers with general maintenance and use trees religiously, but I have one or two pairs that are getting some bowing around the ankle area. The shoe goes back on the last while the recraft, does that help the shape? That's the only reason I would send them in to get a recraft as I have a great cobbler to do sole or heel replacements. Sidenote: would a heel replacement prevent me from a recraft? Better to just check directly with AE on that question?
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^^ Honestly it would bug me and that is the reason I don't buy seconds. I am quite OCD. If I buy a first and it has defects I feel OK about returning it. I don't like paying for something that is defected and then not being 'happy' with the defect. Granted I see a lot of people get seconds and report that they don't know why they are seconds, but I don't have that kind of luck. Therefore I avoid the situation entirely.

IMO I would not feel right returning a second quality shoe because it didn't end up having a defect that I could live with. I am probably in the minority.

+1000

 

I have way too many OCD's and it extends to shoes as well. I nicked the welt on a pair yesterday and was in a bad mood the rest of the day as a result. I could not let it go...

 

I have tried multiple times to buy seconds and, as you correctly state, either I have bad luck or just can't handle what others are willing to overlook. I always get sucked in by the savings and then they sit around for awhile, un worn, until I return them. I would rather have less pairs at a higher quality than additional pairs at a lower quality.

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Burgundy shell Dalton seconds arrived today.  As far as I can tell, the only significant defect is that the "wing" on the left one is a little misshapen:

 

 

I hope it comes through in the photo.  Anyway, I'm trying to decide if that's a deal-breaker.  I doubt anyone would ever notice besides me, but I will see it every time I look down.  Has anyone else successfully put up with this?  Thanks in advance for any perspectives!

 

For me, it would depend on what I paid for them.  If I paid $560, I would return them and buy firsts because saving $140 isn't worth having such an evident defect.  If I paid $300 for them, I might keep them.

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A lot of it for me depends on where the defect is... if I can see it when I look straight down, it would bother me.  If its hidden on the back... might be OK.

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In the same vein, I received my Mora 2.0 seconds today, got them for $228.Hit/skip? They do have some creasing across the apron, but otherwise look pretty clean.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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^ great looking Moras. I would definitely keep them. I get worse creasing than that after a couple days use.
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^ great looking Moras. I would definitely keep them. I get worse creasing than that after a couple days use.

Thanks, Subutai!

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^ great looking Moras. I would definitely keep them. I get worse creasing than that after a couple days use.

 

Agreed - a no-brainer, I would say.  Nice pickup!

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Burgundy shell Dalton seconds arrived today.  As far as I can tell, the only significant defect is that the "wing" on the left one is a little misshapen:

 

 

I hope it comes through in the photo.  Anyway, I'm trying to decide if that's a deal-breaker.  I doubt anyone would ever notice besides me, but I will see it every time I look down.  Has anyone else successfully put up with this?  Thanks in advance for any perspectives!

 

For me, it would depend on what I paid for them.  If I paid $560, I would return them and buy firsts because saving $140 isn't worth having such an evident defect.  If I paid $300 for them, I might keep them.

 

That is very true - for a pair of shoes that I intend to keep for decades, $140 isn't a big deal.  I do wish shell went on sale more often, though!

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The laces in my Alden Grant last captoe boots broke about a year ago, on just the 3rd time out. Nice tifosi, I love them great boots!

 
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I dunno about that. I believe my straight tip boots are inherently dressier than the Dalton and just look "right" with flat laces.

 

Which lead me to purchasing the TZlaces.

 

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I wanted some flat waxed laces for my Daltons so I ordered a pair for $1.99 on eBay and love them so far. I also bought a few pairs of TZlaces that have yet to arrive so we will see if they are worth the premium.

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Flat-Wax-Waxed-Shoelaces-Strings-Laces-Shoestrings-Bootlaces-Brown-Black-White-/390676491842?pt=US_Unisex_Accessories&var&hash=item5af6222e42&_uhb=1

 

Here they are next to the stock pair that came with my Dalton, I swear I am never going back to the stock pair again.

 

 

 

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When the flat black laces arrive I will post pics with them in my Bayfield, they are going to loo amazing I think. I also now wish the Dalton had speed hooks because the flat laces hold tighter and make getting them on/off a bit of a pain haha

I think you will really like them mine have held up fine. TZ offers both round and flat however they are not waxed. I only purchased the flat and only 1 pair of black. I need to order some more black and plan on getting some round ones, but thinking about it for around a year now guess I actually need to DO it LOL. I will wait until you post pictures of yours with your Bayfields. But I did purchase some colored ones that I wear once in awhile in my boots.

 

Cappuccino Shell Bayfields with Red TZ, stock AE, Alden captoe with blue TZ.

 

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Agreed - a no-brainer, I would say.  Nice pickup!

Thanks, 1.5!

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Thanks, 1.5!
I always read that as 1/8th. Ha!
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I always read that as 1/8th. Ha!

That would be halfofhalfofhalf. lol.

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