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First off, don't worry about wearing your daltons in inclement weather. I've got Burgundy shell daltons, and in the last month, i've worn them in calf deep snow at least twice a week. Just gave them a good brushing, cleaning, and a touch of AE cordovan creme, and they look like mirrors.  I've had a topy applied to those though, one that is similar to the v-tap, but a with a more aggressive tread. . Shell is VERY tough, in my experience, no need to baby it.

 

Thanks for commenting on the independence lining being a little thicker. Im going to change mine back to regular lining then. Would love to get purple lining, but doubt thats an option.

 

As for your Eagle County, those specs, to me, seem really really good. I would go with the light brown transparent edge or brown, the natural will be too flashy. Same goes with the eyelets, I would go with the ones that stand out less. Given the casual make up of this boot,(casual leather, split reverse welt, contrast stitching) adding the flashy eyelets, in my opinion, threatens to make it too casual to dress up. The welt color from those Wilberts would be nice I think.

 

As for the last bit. The 6-2-1 set up is incredibly dumb. I have a pair already, and they are a pain to lace. Im going to go top 4 as speed hooks, since Allison told me I can't have all eyelets. (If you get all eyelets, the ones that used to be speed hooks will have bigger holes) Remember that the Eagle County is taller than your daltons (about an inch), and has 9 eyelets instead of 7. Since you want to dress this up at times, I would go with the V-tread or tempest tap, leaning towards to v-tread. Its a little more dressy, and would help keep the boot from being too casual.

 

Thank you for all of the feedback; I really can't argue with any of it. I agree on the edging, eyelets, and speed hooks, and V-Tread really seems to make the most sense. Thanks again for helping me confirm where I was already leaning.

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Thank you for all of the feedback; I really can't argue with any of it. I agree on the edging, eyelets, and speed hooks, and V-Tread really seems to make the most sense. Thanks again for helping me confirm where I was already leaning.


Thank you, bouncing ideas back and forth has really helped me with my own make up as well, and thank you for adding the information you received from Allison regarding lining and what not. Very interested in seeing how these turn out for us. These make ups; yours, as well as my own, and a few that some of the other members have talked about, are really what the eagle county should have been. AE doesn't have a simple Cap toe boot, which is a staple in my opinion. Really looking forward to all of this, these various make ups will be great to see.

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I'm looking for somewhat of a Jack-of-all-trades, which I realize may be hard to get right. I currently have Burgundy Shell Daltons that fit the dress boot bill very nicely, but I'm reluctant to wear them hard if weather gets bad. I'm looking for something that can handle some rain, works when totally casual (jeans and t-shirt), but also would do fine with a dressed-up a tad with jeans/chinos and a sport coat.

 

Here's what I'm thinking so far:

 

Leather: Brown Chromexcel
Stitching: Contrast, matching the Wilbert welt stitching mentioned below.
Lining/Insole: Independence or Standard, depending upon fit. Allison said Independence takes up more room.
Welt type: Split Reverse, as it leans more rugged.
Welt color: Allison suggested the contrast-stitched "Brown with Reverse Smokey Stitch" of the Wilbert. It looks different here. I'm still not sure if I want the welt leather to match the uppers, the edge dressing, or neither. Thoughts?
Edge dressing: Still trying to decide between Natural Toasted, Light Brown Transparent, Brown Transparent. Thoughts?
Eyelets: Was thinking Brass Agatine, but Allison suggested Copper Agatine might look better as brass might stand out too much. Thoughts?
Speed hooks: I'm thinking 6-holes-3-hooks or 5-holes-4-hooks instead of 6-2-1 as it comes.
Pull tab: Unmodified, as Allison said it can't really be changed to resemble the Dalton or be removed completely. This surprised me, but I'm fine with it.
Sole: As mentioned before, I'm still trying to decide between Double Butyl, V-Tread Tap, Tempest Tap, and Mini-lug Tap: http://issuu.com/allenedmonds/docs/ae_spring_digest_web_lr/46

I think if you've worked it out this completely and thoughtfully, regardless of which you choose you will be happy with it.  None of the things you're considering are really wacky.  Sounds like a more casual boot in most regards.  I think it'd look right at home w/ a stockier mini lug given the other "rugged" characteristics you've chosen, but if you went leather I don't think it would look disjointed.

 

As someone pointed out above, interesting about the Independence Lining.  Hard to imagine it would make more than a millimeter of difference, but who knows.  Props also on the links to pics of stuff like the edge dressing examples - hard to know what's what without poring over every picture in the catalogs.

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I'm considering adding a pair of Neumoks to my stable to wear casually with jeans/chinos/etc... however, I can't decide what color to get! I tend to wear more denim than light chinos and I can't decide between red, blue, and olive. Anyone have strong feelings on the matter? Or great examples of of any of those "in the wild" to help me decide?

Different pants, different lighting. I like my blues.



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I have no connection to the seller, but there are a pair of 8.5D Walnut shell Daltons in the marketplace:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/372492/allen-edmonds-dalton-boots-in-walnut-shell-cordovan-8-5d

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Walnut Wednesday!







Walnut Calf Players Shoe

-Mike
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FWIW I don't notice any size difference at all with independence lining, just extreme comfort.

I would definitely stick with the Independence lining if you have the cash, it's 100% worth it
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Are they able to do a 270 degree welt? They don't on any current models so I wouldn't've guessed so.

 

I asked Allison about the pull tab and whether she could have it moved down to resemble the Dalton, and she said it pretty much needs to stay as-is. I got the impression they wouldn't even let you opt out, but I'm not positive.

 

All accounts of the Poron insole make it sound like it makes them tighter, so I assume no Poron could make it roomier. I don't know how the Independence lining/insole compare to the standard and Poron insoles.

 

 

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Interesting stuff here. I just emailed her back today with specs, so im going to wait and see what she says. Hopefully I can get what I want, but if there is some stuff that I can't have, i'll understand. Im not sure about any of my requests yet and whether or not they can be accommodated. Everything i've requested (except the 270 welt), i've seen asked for/done in at least one post before, as before I made this list up, I went back and looked at A LOT of MTO make ups on here. Thanks for chiming in on the Poron insole, what you said has echoed what i've heard.

 

What are the prospective specs on your make up? We're going to have a boat load of great looking eagle county boots on this thread in about 2-3 months time.

 

Can anyone comment on how the independence lining affects fit? My understanding is that there is no difference in fit, only in feeling, with the independence lining being a little softer, and a little bit more well made.

 

While I wouldn't get your hopes up on the 270 welt, it would be absolutely fantastic if they would accommodate that.  Their Executive Line from a few years ago was 270 degree welted, so they may surprise us all and do it.  That would open up a whole new realm of possibilities for them, as there are many people who shift to other brands specifically because they don't want their dress shoes to be 360 degree welted.  I'd be all over a Fifth Avenue or a Park Avenue built on the 8-last with a 270 welt, JR sole with dovetail heel, and wheeled welt as a new "workhorse" suit shoe. 

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Edge dressing: Still trying to decide between Natural Toasted, Light Brown Transparent, Brown Transparent. Thoughts?

Are there examples of each of these? I placed an order yesterday for light brown transparent, and Allison said they're pretty much all the same. Someone was saying natural looks a little more "flashy"...anyone have examples of all three colors?

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FWIW I don't notice any size difference at all with independence lining, just extreme comfort.

I would definitely stick with the Independence lining if you have the cash, it's 100% worth it

How much extra for the independence lining?

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post
 

 

Thank you for all of the feedback; I really can't argue with any of it. I agree on the edging, eyelets, and speed hooks, and V-Tread really seems to make the most sense. Thanks again for helping me confirm where I was already leaning.

 

FWIW, the thought that came to my head was that if you went CXL + mini lug, the boot might end up being too casual to dress up. V-tread probably makes sense.

 

As far the lining - for me, the cowhide EC fit perfectly. Allison was of the opinion that a calfskin shoe would actually feel a little looser, and that going with the Independence lining would tighten it back up a bit. So I went with the Independence insole/lining.

 

I went with brass eyelets because it better matched the black/chili color scheme I'm going for.

 

 

 

 

Fellas, has anyone ever put chili stitching on a black welt?

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Going with the Sheltons on a cold Wednesday:

 

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Pants raised slightly, indoor flash pix.

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Will there be a seconds sale for Christmas? or when is the next sale? I really wanted some walnut strands in seconds.
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Will there be a seconds sale for Christmas? or when is the next sale? I really wanted some walnut strands in seconds.

I'd keep an eye or at or after Christmas. If nothing else, Brooks Brothers sells an AE strand for $368 in walnut. The day after Christmas it should be 25%+15% off, bringing the price for firsts down to $234.60 assuming the sale is the same as last year.
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Props also on the links to pics of stuff like the edge dressing examples - hard to know what's what without poring over every picture in the catalogs.

 

Please see this post for an updated list of all MTO options I'm aware of. I have more links to different edge dressings, for example:

 

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I'm looking into an Eagle County made-to-order and in such wanted to gather all the options I have available. From looking some other MTOs, I've come up with the following options. Please let me know if there are any additions or corrections and I'll update as necessary. I know at the very least that I wasn't able to find all the edge dressing options someone figured out before.

 

Leather: any leather (calf/cowhide/Chromexcel/shell) in stock
Extra burnishing? optional
Stitching: tone-on-tone, contrast, practically any thread color (khaki, etc.)

Binding (topline piping / slip beading): certain color, none
Lining: unlined, standard, Independence lambskin, more?
Insole: standard, Independence, Poron, orthotic(?), more?
Welt type: flat, split reverse, more?
Wheeled edge (fudging)? optional on flat welts
Welt color: ("soft?") natural, chili, brown, black, "brown with reverse smokey stitch", more?
Edge dressing: ("natural?") tannatural toasted, light brown transparentbrown transparent, black, more?

Eyelets: blind, brass agatine, copper agatine, matched agatine (is this available?), more?
Speed hooks? optional on boots
Pull tab? optional on boots? Allison said can't be removed as part of the pattern.
Sole: anything found here: http://issuu.com/allenedmonds/docs/ae_spring_digest_web_lr/46


Edited by kentyman - 12/11/13 at 9:19am
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