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That explains the "Made in England" that was throwing me off. Then what is "Brooks Gatsby Brn/White" on the seconds list?

It was the original BB Gatsby, which are these.

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For those that aren't familiar with all the Brooks Brothers (BB) and Ralph Lauren (RL) models, here are the ones I know of. I've linked to their respective websites if possible. Feel free to let me know of any additions or corrections and I can try to keep it up-to-date. Also, if you know which last a given RL model is on, let me know and I'll add it. I'm not positive about the links with question marks; please let me know if you can confirm.

 

Brooks Brothers (differences include Poron insole, combination outsole, and branding):

 

Ralph Lauren:

 

Wait so the McAllisters on the shoebank inventory list will be on sale at the BB shoes price? There are no separate BB - McAllisters on the shoe bank list.

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Keep the box, email the outlet and tell then you're sending back. They'll email you a return label.

There's a $10 restock fee for 2nds

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Originally Posted by EEWithoutStyle View Post

I'm thinking about picking up a pair of Park Aves during the sale as I will need them for upcoming interviews.  How do returns/exchanges work if there is a major visible defect or defect I am not happy about?  I have never ordered seconds before.
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Keep the box, email the outlet and tell then you're sending back. They'll email you a return label.

There's a $10 restock fee for 2nds

Thank you!

post #33920 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Does anyone know the model name of this shoe? It's on the 5603 last.



5603 is probably the style number. That's the Schautal- essentially a snuff suede MacNeil. Someone on here said that AE made them exclusively for ether Nordstrom Rack, or the European market, I believe.

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Thank you!

 

I found a thread over at AAAC covering it. Looks like it is essentially a Macneil in suede. Made for The Rack.

 

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 Just got the scoop from Brenda at AE and she was very helpful. 

She said she has been with AE for over 20 years and she has never heard of the Schautal. She had to do some digging on her computer to find it and you won't find it on the AE web site.

The Schuatal is made only for the Nordstrom Rack and it was introduced in October 2012. It is not a factory second nor is it made in an inferior manner. 

It is definitely made in USA from first quality materials. Essentially it is a suede leather MacNeil, double oak sole, etc. on a 97 last (same as #7). 

On these she said the final number in the style "5603" does not mean the specific last anymore. She said there are too many lasts now so AE went to double digit numbers to specify the last. 

A very nice shoe!
post #33922 of 70737
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Originally Posted by njruss View Post
 

Been a decent week.  Yesterday, my Banff slippers arrived after 4 weeks and today my black Mctavish seconds from the $159 sale.  This is the 1st pair of seconds that arrived with shoe bags.  Clearly they had been laced before but there is absolutely not a mark on the soles.  Do you think this indicates that they were returns of firsts instead of true seconds?  The box is labeled as a second.

Also, there is no little marking on the bottom like one usually sees on seconds.

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Originally Posted by ryansto View Post
 

5603 is probably the style number. That's the Schautal- essentially a snuff suede MacNeil. Someone on here said that AE made them exclusively for ether Nordstrom Rack, or the European market, I believe.

^This. It's made for the European market.

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Regardless of what Brenda at AE says, all the Schnautals I've seen at the Rack have the marking on the bottom indicating seconds. 

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'custom' makeup over at mouldedshoe

 

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'custom' makeup over at mouldedshoe


Looks like a derby boot version of the Morgan.
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Question: is the Long Branch essentially a Dalton with a Vibram sole and no lace holes at the top?

 

It seems to be a happy medium to me - not dressy enough to wear with a suit, but perhaps the lighter brown can be worn with charcoal/navy trousers and a tie + blazer?


Edited by 850csi - 11/21/13 at 9:22pm
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Question: is the Long Branch essentially a Dalton with a Vibram sole and no lace holes at the top?

It seems to be a happy medium to me - not dressy enough to wear with a suit, but perhaps the lighter brown can be worn with charcoal/navy trousers and a tie + blazer?

Yeah, they are both on the 511 last. I would say the main difference is the leather, it's a more distressed looking leather (or waxed leather). Combined with the speed hooks and the vibram sole, it has a more casual feel.

To me it almost feels like a boot like version of the McTavish, where as the Dalton is more of a boot version of the McAllister.

Whether you personally try and pull it off with a sport coat/blazer and a tie is up to your personal style. To me this straddles a little too far on the casual side to pull off a tie.

But I am now Style advisor. :-)

-Mike
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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post

Regardless of what Brenda at AE says, all the Schnautals I've seen at the Rack have the marking on the bottom indicating seconds. 

Whether or not these are seconds is irrelevant to me or to the question I asked. Are they not worthy because you don't like them or because they're seconds?

I'll go back to my normal corners of STyleforum now, because frankly, this level of snobbishness does not make me want to dive into this thread.
post #33930 of 70737
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

^This. It's made for the European market.

I read that here before somewhere, but it prompts the question "What European market"? Allen Edmonds are almost impossible to find in Europe.

When I want them, I've ordered from Jeffersonville, had them shipped to my sister-in-law near Boston, and then had her stick them in her suitcase on her next trip to Europe.
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