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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

When I spoke to the Allen Edmonds Recrafting department, they did mention that any natural expansion in the cork area of the shoe would be lost through the recrafting process - because recrafting returns the shoe to the original out-of-the-box fit.  They mention they have seen nearly whole size differences over time, and when customers got back their recrafted shoes they complained because the shoes felt like they were too small.

 

They did, however, mention they would consider a custom note attached to the returned shoes to have them inspected in order to preserve the current "fit" - rather than completely restore the shoe to the original size which may now be too small for the customer.

 

David

 

People get used to their shoes fitting a certain way, and they forget how the felt when they were new, so none of that surprises me. 

 

The returning of the shoe to it's original "out-of-box" fit is acceptable and should be expected to some extent.  However, there is variance in how much this takes place from pair to pair.  They replace the cork, which theoretically removes some of the impression your foot left in the cork insole, but not entirely, as leather has a "memory".  Obviously, your impression will return within a couple of wears. 

 

When a Goodyear-welted shoe is repaired, the welt is typically removed and replaced in addition to the sole.  When the welt is removed, this leaves the upper temporarily unsecured to anything.  If the shoe is not on it's original last, then when the repairman is stitching on a new welt, it risks not being stitched in the proper place to maintain the original size and shape.  This can permanently alter it's size.  B. Nelson uses sized lasts when they work on shoes, but they aren't going to be as perfect as the original last from the manufacturer.  Since B. Nelson uses lasts, they are certainly better than the average cobbler.  However, you are risking your shoes to a certain extent even if they are sent to the original manufacturer for recrafting, so sending them to anyone else increases the risk even more.    

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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

what was the final cost for these? this might satisfy my need that alden likely won't fulfill in dark brown..

also, could you have optioned out different eyelets, and/or have gotten all eyelets and no speed hooks?

thanks in advance


Yes, very interested in this as well. In a way, I'm in a comparable boat.
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I received two pairs in the mail today.

 

First up is the McTavish Cognac Brown seconds:

 

 

Then the Tan Elgin firsts:

 

 

Family photo of my shoes to date (It's only been about 2 months):

 

And one with the flash for fun:

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

When I spoke to the Allen Edmonds Recrafting department, they did mention that any natural expansion in the cork area of the shoe would be lost through the recrafting process - because recrafting returns the shoe to the original out-of-the-box fit.  They mention they have seen nearly whole size differences over time, and when customers got back their recrafted shoes they complained because the shoes felt like they were too small.

 

They did, however, mention they would consider a custom note attached to the returned shoes to have them inspected in order to preserve the current "fit" - rather than completely restore the shoe to the original size which may now be too small for the customer.

 

David

This is good to know.  Thank you for posting.

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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

At long last...there was a special treat waiting for me when I got home today







For a moment there I thought I was in the Alden thread.  Very nicely done by our friends in AE.  What last was this made with?  

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Originally Posted by tietherope View Post

I received two pairs in the mail today.

 

First up is the McTavish Cognac Brown seconds:

 

 

Then the Tan Elgin firsts:

 

 

Family photo of my shoes to date (It's only been about 2 months):

 

And one with the flash for fun:

 

Looks great!  I was really impressed with the Elgins that someone else posted a few weeks ago so I purchased a pair.

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2/$250 haul. Long Branch and Spiaggia.

Which color laces do you gents prefer on the Spiaggia?

btw...I tied the Long Branch the 'old way' and the Spiaggia the 'new way" as reference to my earlier plight.
Edited by OptoDoc - 8/14/13 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post

I just got these from amazon for $54 and I'm wondering if I should keep them. They're a total knock around pair...and no, no they're not shell cordovan smile.gif

 

Keep them! Those are snazzy and a great deal. I like the green and red ones as well.

 

 

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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

At long last...there was a special treat waiting for me when I got home today

 

These Bayfields are jaw-dropping. Go to bed with a smile on your face tonight, rydenfan!

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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post


Not quite what you're asking for, but here's a picture of the Patriot next to a couple of Aldens:

Top:Patriot(9D), Middle:Alden LWB(Barrie 8.5D), Bottom:Alden LHS(Van 8.5D)


The Patriots are a fairly stubby pair of shoes, and are a little less sleek than even the Alden LHS. But I do like them as they are a pretty classic looking pair of penny loafers.


thanks for taking the time to post this...  I guess this just confirms why I don't like aldens... because in every picture I see of them the wearers feet tend to look short and stubby.  I understand why people like the patriot, especially when compared to the more expensive Aldens, but me with my "little foot" syndrome I just can't see myself wearing them with confidence...  It's a me problem for sure.

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

 

I agree with Pastor but that seems normal to me smile.gif

 

All summer when home I have worn my Patriots more than any other shoe which includes working from home today. I just went into the closet and was surprised at how much difference in length there is compared to my 5 lasted shoes. But compared to the Leeds on the 1 last not so much. In 10D:

 

Hmmm don't think I've ever worn the Leeds with technical fly fishing pants before....  I had to put socks on for the Leeds and quick picture. The Patriot is one of the most comfortable shoes I have ever owned. Exactly 3 months ago SouthNarc posted pics of his Manchester's -

I have desired a pair ever since then and yesterday finally ordered them. With luck they will fit and I can only hope they are as comfortable as the Patriot's.


Yeah, all this talk about the patriots got me thinking about which slip on AE I would buy if I were to buy a pair...  It would definitely be the Manchesters.  I realize the patriots are very comfortable, but spending $350 on a pair of comfortable shoes is something that I just can't feel good about.  I wouldn't spend the money on a pair of leeds either.  For me, looks come first when it comes to shoes, not comfort.  Thats just my opinion though...  and I am a college student/part time worker so I don't wear them for more than 2-3 hours a week, so take my opinion for what its worth.

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Recently purchased two pairs of the Cordovan Park Avenues, but was expecting more of a sheen like other non-AE cordovan shoes I've had.  I know I can put a mirror shine on the toe, but doing so will be noticeably different than the rest of the shoe and I don't care for that look.  I compared these shoes to my Bostonian Akrons, which have a stronger sheen.  Will more of a sheen appear over time or with the proper care?  If these can't approach my Bostonians, any suggestions on other non-AE (perish the thought!) shoes that are like the Park Avenues?  Thanks.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

People get used to their shoes fitting a certain way, and they forget how the felt when they were new, so none of that surprises me. 

 

The returning of the shoe to it's original "out-of-box" fit is acceptable and should be expected to some extent.  However, there is variance in how much this takes place from pair to pair.  They replace the cork, which theoretically removes some of the impression your foot left in the cork insole, but not entirely, as leather has a "memory".  Obviously, your impression will return within a couple of wears. 

 

When a Goodyear-welted shoe is repaired, the welt is typically removed and replaced in addition to the sole.  When the welt is removed, this leaves the upper temporarily unsecured to anything.  If the shoe is not on it's original last, then when the repairman is stitching on a new welt, it risks not being stitched in the proper place to maintain the original size and shape.  This can permanently alter it's size.  B. Nelson uses sized lasts when they work on shoes, but they aren't going to be as perfect as the original last from the manufacturer.  Since B. Nelson uses lasts, they are certainly better than the average cobbler.  However, you are risking your shoes to a certain extent even if they are sent to the original manufacturer for recrafting, so sending them to anyone else increases the risk even more.    

 

If at all possible, I would not trust any of my Allen Edmonds shoes to be recrafted by anyone except AE.  

 

Now that you mention it, they did suggest I could avoid having my shoes returned to the original out-of-the-box fit if they were able to use the existing welt and just recraft the remaining portions of the shoes.  They told me that an inspection could provide an answer to the welt issue.

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I see a lot of vintage clothing in my side job and a million Allen Edmonds shoes. I always liked Monk Straps, but found most styles pretty bland. These little gems came around a few weeks ago and I love the lines. Horribly, they are not my size... But they hit all the right notes for me. What do you think???

Should anyone ever see an Allen Edmonds "Times Square" in 13D... Let me know please. I searched google and all over. This may be the only pair of AE Times Squares alive and well on the planet. A heartbreak, as I must now find a pair in my size!

(PS: I enjoy this appreciation thread! Thanks!)
Edited by Ctphr - 8/14/13 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post



2/$250 haul. Long Branch and Spiaggia.
 

 

From one Long Branch to another . . . how about a larger photo!

 

And did you add a shine to them?

 

David

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I can snap some more pictures in the daylight but here is the Alden Naval Boot with the AE Bayfield











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