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Originally Posted by Fabian43 View Post

Can any McGraw owners please comment on fit and how the shoe has worn over time? Thinking of getting a pair in walnut. Also thinking of picking up a pair in chocolate suede.
I'd also be interested in info on the fit of McGraws, particularly compared to 5-last shoes like PAs and 5As.

Also any comparison between McGraws and Westchesters as far as fit or style?

Oh, and, In the non-loafer arena, how do the 4-last Long Branches fit compared to the 5-last shoes?
Edited by Septimus - 7/30/13 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by unrooted View Post

Any opinions on the Kenwood in Saddle Tan?

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF44000_1_40000000001_-1

I can get a pair in my size for $180, but what I really want is a pair of the Oak Street or Rancourt Natural Chromexcel Beefrolls.

You should wait on what you really want.
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You should wait on what you really want.

This!!!!

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Here I was complaining a bit on my MTO...when I got home I found these waiting!

 

 

My shell cordovan Dalton's! Please excuse the poor lighting and photo quality

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Originally Posted by Septimus View Post


I'd also be interested in info on the fit of McGraws, particularly compared to 5-last shoes like PAs and 5As.

Also any comparison between McGraws and Westchesters as far as fit or style?

Oh, and, In the non-loafer arena, how do the 4-last Long Branches fit compared to the 5-last shoes?

I have a wide forefoot relative to the heel and low instep. I wear a 10D in 5 last, and they feel a little loose with thinner socks. Sized down to a 9.5D for the McGraws, and they're a little tight at the toes, but I feel 10D would've been a little too big. Truthfully, I think I'm a 9.5E in all of them.

 

I don't know if that helps any, but yeah. 

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Whew, finally caught all the way back up on this thread. That Nordstrom stuff was brutal...

 

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Originally Posted by Scbrown View Post

So I went into my local AE store today and heard some great news (apologies if this has previously been shared), but the Mora is coming back as the Mora 2.0 with the original design. Gone will be the days of sifting through ebay and forum post. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

In honor here is a picture of my freshly shined original Mora's 

 

 

 

Thanks for this good news! I no longer have to consider paying an arm and an arm (need my legs for shoes) to Ball and Buck -- who no longer have the Mora in brown anyway. Surprised they're calling it Mora 2.0 if it's effectively the original Mora; my understanding is they've brought back models from the dead and even changed them without renaming them.

 

Any word on when this'll be available?

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Originally Posted by lostron View Post

I am still waiting for a good cordovan boot..

 

So I really, really like these Alden's from J.Crew:

 

 

I don't know exactly what it is. I think it's the fact that the heel sticks out a bit, and it looks a little short than AE offerings. Too bad I can't justify $667 for it.

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Originally Posted by Ah Via View Post

I have the same ridge issue with Bourbon McAllister firsts as well.  I wore my first pair a few times, not thinking too much about it, but then looking at pictures of other McAllisters on their website and elsewhere, I thought it was a defect and hoped that they could replace it with a pair without the ridges.  If not, I could live with it.  Customer Service asked me to send them in for inspection.  I received a new pair (excellent customer service) and it had the same ridges.  Here's photos of mine:

 

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This is what Customer Service had to say after I e-mailed them about this:

 

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This must be the way that these shoes are burnished, since these were a special inspected shoe by our quality control manager.  I have seen what you are talking about and it is not clearly defined on the website picture.  I apologize for that.  I know they are darker around the wing tip and cap toe of the shoes.  This is the way these shoe are manufactured.  The tight parts around the last show more definition of color especially on these bourbon shoes since they are manufactured from a walnut to bourbon color through burnishing.

 

So they say this is how it is, though I don't recall the Merlot McAllister display model in the San Francisco AE store having the ridge.  I was going to buy a Merlot pair during their Rediscover America sale later, but now need to consider whether I can live with the ridge.  The pictures on the website don't show this, nor the various pictures I've seen elsewhere.

 

I'll probably end up keeping my pair as I love the Bourbon color.  However with yours I'd be especially bothered by the darker leather, and possibly the wave/wrinkle.  If you have the time to wait for a replacement and are willing to live with the ridges (they may not be noticeable from a distance, and likely others won't notice it), then exchange them for another pair, and hopefully the replacement won't have the other defects, or at least a significantly lower degree that's acceptable.  They're handmade out of natural materials after all.

 

I'm discouraged by the quality control of AE.  I'm waiting for a third pair of Walnut Strand firsts due to quality issues of the first 2 pairs.  The first pair had a dark ridge across one of the caps, and the cap itself was darker than the other and rest of shoe.  The second pair had a noticeable wrinkle on the outside of one shoe (opposite side of the wave of your shoe), and the AE store assistant manager said he's seen worse.  I also had a pair of Bourbon McAllisters in a different size that had one shoe where the finish was lighter than the other.  I've also tried on pairs of Strands and McTavishes where the outside ankle collar of the right shoe feels high, such that I feel it hitting my ankle bone.  It's not bad and you get used to it after a while, and SAs say that they can soften that part for you.  It could also be my feet and ankles aren't perfect/symmetrical, but odd it's coming up now and not other pairs purchased in the past. Maybe with the company's growth some of the employees aren't as precise in making the shoes, and QC don't have time to inspect as many, and/or are willing to let more pass to satisfy demand?

 

AE's customer service is great though, and are more than happy to exchange for new pairs or offer a refund.  Maybe I'm just too picky.  Actually I am picky!  But when you're spending $300+ on a pair of shoes, I want to be satisfied.  I don't expect perfection as the shoes are hand-made out of natural materials, but they should be near-perfect as firsts.  Seconds at a lower price is another thing.

 

Thanks for the long and thoughtful reply. I have since returned my third pair of Merlot McAllisters and have been contacted by Allison at AE to discuss it. My understanding is she was to ensure the third pair was specially inspected (not sure if by here), but as you see there were a handful of things that weren't ideal. However, the fact that she reached out to me and we'll be talking is a good sign.

 

After what you and others have confirmed, I think that's just what nowadays McAllisters are like. I believe others have said that older McAllisters don't have this ridge. I wonder what could've changed to cause this. Only MoneyWellSpent could guess. :)

 

After all this, I think if I get a pair that look like my first one, I'll keep them. But I have no regrets returning pairs 2 and 3.

 

I just wanted to add that I had the same problem as you did with the ankle rubbing on just the right food of my Cognac McTavishes and Natural Finches. Luckily, this seems to go away with wear. I also rubbed in some Leather Lotion or Conditioner/Cleaner to help soften it up.

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So I really, really like these Alden's from J.Crew:

 

 

 

I don't know exactly what it is. I think it's the fact that the heel sticks out a bit, and it looks a little short than AE offerings. Too bad I can't justify $667 for it.

seconds pop up on ebay from time to time. and the occasional jcrew coupon that slips alden purchases through..

 I got a pair of those for 30% off last year iirc with a coupon

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Here I was complaining a bit on my MTO...when I got home I found these waiting!




My shell cordovan Dalton's! Please excuse the poor lighting and photo quality

Congrats sebutai. Awesome buy! Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

So I really, really like these Alden's from J.Crew:




I don't know exactly what it is. I think it's the fact that the heel sticks out a bit, and it looks a little short than AE offerings. Too bad I can't justify $667 for it.

I have a pair and love them. Just be forewarned that the pic you posted somehow shows the boot to be sleeker than it really is. The toe box is not as flat or as low as in the pic. It's a bit higher or a bit more bulbous, although I don't mean that in a bad way. Check the Alden thread for some irl pics.
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My Ridgeways are also the Horween Cognac Dublin Leather. After the Allen-Edmonds Leather Lotion, I use the Allen-Edmonds Neutral Carnuba Shoe Polish most of the time, but sometimes I use Kiwi Neutral Shoe Polish.  I hope that I don't traumatize anyone out there in Cyberspace, but sometimes it seems like Kiwi polishes shine better than any of the various Allen-Edmonds products, but I didn't just say that.  I am certainly not going to tell anyone that I sometimes use Kiwi Tan Shoe Polish on my Walnut Allen-Edmonds shoes or that I once used Allen-Edmonds Light Brown Shoe Cream on a pair of Walnut shoes (the Lombards) that got a little messed up and now look perfect.

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Originally Posted by carlos20co View Post

 My feet 26 cm and I wear size 8 in the 5 last which is the last of the park avenues 

Is your fit snug? Did you measure your feet with socks on? If so, were those thin dress socks?

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Originally Posted by Mark S View Post

Hi Guys,

This is my first post here and I was really hoping for some advice.  I am very new to the "high end" dress shoe world.  I bought 2 pairs of Allen Edmond Strands online.  The size is 10 D.  I have been searching all morning and haven't been able to find an answer to my question.  I measure exactly 10 D on a Brannock device.  The shoes appear to be perfect length, toe box/ball area is super comfortable, very minimal heel slippage BUT the shoe feels too tight in the middle area, across the outside arch of my foot (inside is OK).  Basically across the narrowest part of the sole, ahead of the heel, is where it feels tight on my foot.  Now, I would think going up in width would be the answer, however I believe width is measured at the widest part of the shoe (ball area) which fits me perfectly as-is.  Every question about width I can find seems to be regarding rubbing toes, but my issue is further back in the shoe, ahead of the heel but before the ball (essentially the part of the shoe below the laces, but on the lower outside edge of my foot).

I have only worn the shoes for a few hours, but I would like to know if that area of the shoe will stretch or not.  Again, the rest of the shoe is perfect (length, toe box, etc.) which is where everyone else seems to be having issues.  My only option is to buy online unless I want to pay $410/pair (I'm in Canada), so getting sized at an AE store isn't an option for me.  These are "5" last shoes.  I bought them from the Shoebank, so I can return them but at my cost of shipping.

Thanks in advance for any insight, I'm really torn.  They definitely aren't broken in yet, but I am wondering if that area will stretch, or if moving from a 10D to 9.5 E would be better, even though the 10 D fits well everywhere else.  I'm not sure I really want to go to a local Harry Rosen and waste a bunch of their time on sizes without any intention of ever buying from them, since I only buy online.

I also find the 5 last narrow. I have to go from a D width to an E.
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I have now passed the 12 week mark of wait for my MTO's...Anyone else waited that long or am I the lucky winner?

As of today I am 13 weeks and 5 days for a pair of Shell Walnut MacNeils. After 10 weeks (though Iw as told 6-8 to make them when I ordered them), I was told, when I called AE, not when they called me, that my first pair did not pass inspection. Understandable, and I appreciate high standards and what a top quality product. But at that time I was told my remakes would be made in an expedited fashion, and I should be hearing rom them in 1 week or so. 

 

It is frustrating for me. But I am still looking forward to what I know will be one of my favorite shoes. Though, not as much as I was 3+ months back when I finally pulled he trigger on them. 

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