I can't find it with a quick search and I have a meeting right now.
I know it's on AAAC because I looked at it about two weeks ago. I'll do another search when I get back if nobody has found it.
On edit, maybe I'm mistaken on the AAAC thread title, but I'm 100% sure they had a good thread on this topic.
Here's one from SF:
LOL, it's amazing how often a thread with a clear stated agenda gets derailed on SF. The link is a classic SF bitch-fest for sure