Where do you see them? I haven't seen them made recently.
I have them on the 744 LTD shell boots and love them. In fact they are so good I don't think that I'm going to bother putting Vibram lug half soles on them. On the other hand the 5th St. Boot also has them and they are totally different. Not sure if it was a bad batch or what but they are very soft and pick up stones and rocks badly. There are some large boulders in here:
And use the serrated edge of a butter knife to clean them up, it leaves some large craters:
These I will eventually get around to putting a thin dress half sole on to protect the butyl soles. But I suspect there was an issue with them to start with. Someone else said that theirs chipped easily which I would think means they were too hard, where as mine were too soft. Not sure how common this is.
I do Patrick, custom order with natural welt.
With burgundy shell and black calf Leeds trifecta.
The natural welt makes them more casual which is what I was shooting for, but not too casual.
I just tried the tan polish for the first time on a pair of walnut Park Avenues and I wasn't impressed. It's yellow wax polish, and when the wax catches on the stitching it leaves little bits of yellow residue that contrast horribly against the darker thread. I've never used the mid-tan, but I would imagine that it would be closer in hue to walnut than the tan polish is.