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nothing worse than AE's that do not fit well :(

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I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but it looks like Amazon is having a decent sale right now on Park Aves. The price seems to change slightly depending on color and size but for most sizes I tried in black they are going for $320. But if you scroll down a little you'll see that if you're a first-time subscriber to their shoe email list you get 20% off your next purchase. It appears that's 20% off an entire shoe purchase of any eligible shoe, not just one pair. A few of the AE styles are on this list. Be sure you're color/size is fulfilled by Amazon to get the free shipping, returns, price and coupon discount. Check it out...

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Edmonds-Avenue-Oxford-Black/dp/B000H10S22/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1365131710&sr=1-1&keywords=allen+edmonds+park+avenue
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Anyone had any experience with the San Marco's? They're on clearance at the AE site, and I love the look of the pebble grain leather! They have a rubber sole which would suit my business casual needs.

I've seen them up close and they're a little college professorish. Kinda bulbous. You could do better with a captoe blucher with a rubber sole in dk brown. 

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What do you guys think about the Sanford versus the Strand?

I like the Sanford as it is a blucher and works with my high instep fairly well and the 7 last works well for me (but I don't even see them on their website now). But I also like the Strand (in fact I have a pair of Bourbon Strands coming in). Be sure the 5 last on the Strand fits you as the 5 last can be a bit narrow for some people.

Some say the Sanford (blucher) shouldn't be worn with a suit, but I don't follow that rule strictly.

I say go with the one that fits you best and the one you like best.

Chris
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Originally Posted by Rene_Lahm View Post

Anyone had any experience with the San Marco's? They're on clearance at the AE site, and I love the look of the pebble grain leather! They have a rubber sole which would suit my business casual needs.

They are pebble grain and I like them. But I recommend you try them on. They are on the 222 last which is a tad narrow. And the San Marco fits me tighter than the other 222 last AE's I have. My local menswear / shoe store has them in my usual size at half price. I tried them on and they hurt my feet. I really wanted them, especially at half price. But they were a no go for me.

Chris
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The Park Avenue is really the only AE shoe that is right for formal events. Since you can't get a good fit from it (or likely any other shoe on the 5-last, which are typically the most formal), I would suggest a different brand. Give Alden a try.

Is there a specific formal model that everyone goes for in Alden? 

 

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If the shoe is comfortable, it's alright to have a "small V."  As for other brands, the black cap toes I usually recommend do not come in E widths (Meermin and Andrew Lock).  If you're on the border of an E and a EE, I would exhaust your AE options before looking elsewhere.

Thanks. The Vernon seems to be on another last and a formal interview shoes from what I can see. What do you think?

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By "a 3/4 inch gap at the very top of the tongue so it performs a small V," do you mean that the two sides flaps (name, anyone?) do not meet over the tongue?  If so, that's pretty normal, and 3/4" doesn't seem too wide to me.

 

 

These are how they look.

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The pieces are called the eyestay. A 3/4 inch gap means the shoe is likely too narrow. It's not an uncommon sight, as many people wear their shoes like this not knowing that it's incorrectly sized. It's also not as egregiously wide, as a lot of people wear their balmorals with a ginormous gap. But the eyestays on a balmoral should lace just about all they way shut (the sweet spot is about 1/8-1/4 inch gap, so there's still room to pull them snug).

Do you have any recommendations I can possibly try within the AE brand? As stated earlier, I'm thinking about the Vernon, but wasn't sure if that would pass as formal shoes.


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HI, I've done a search on Google and in this forum and I haven't found a relevant post regarding the comparative fit of the AE Jefferson. I've got a a couple of pairs (Fairfax and 5th Avenue) on the #5 Last and they fit me great in a 9D, however I've had to return a couple of 9D on the same Last over the years. The Strand was too narrow and the Kenilworth was just too big overall.

I am thinking of getting the Jefferson in dark brown however I don't have access to a store that carries the particular style. I am hoping some of the forum members who have the Jefferson can comment on the fit in comparison to either the Strand, 5th Ave or Fairfax. Thanks in advance.
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does that dude have asperger's or something? something about his attempt at trolling just seems off, in a "and now, i will engage in what the humans affectionately refer to as 'having fun!'" sort of way. maybe his account got hacked by someone who doesn't speak english normally? confused.gif

 

really???

 

so, in your opinion, the implication being that the poster's English is abnormal and going by your guess as to what he was thinking that he is non-human or sub-human, therefore he must "have asperger's or something". do you seriously believe that people with autism aren't human? either your logic is severely skewed or perhaps, you are just a small-minded, ignorant, hateful person?

 

your profile states "lawyerin' " is what you do for a living. I could use all sorts of clichés--some of them well-deserved, but many of them compleatly wrong--to make guesses about you, but to do so would not be right. however, I can make an educated guess based on your words: you are an asshole.

 

I don't have a pony in this race, but I would like to comment that many high functioning people with Asperger's Syndrome describe it as being an "alien" among humans. In fact, a story was written about a professor with high functioning autism,Temple Grandin, who described social interactions as being like "an anthropologist on Mars."

 

well, I do have a pony in this race and never have I heard of a single person with autism say they actually are an alien. It's one thing for someone with this affliction to describe how it sometimes feels trying to cope with this disability, but it's an entirely different matter for someone else to insinuate that someone with autism is sub-human or such or vice-versa. Stereotyping is based on prejudice, ignorance and hate. Would you think it ok to call a child non-human for having a birth defect that made them look or feel different? There's absolutely no difference.

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Thanks. The Vernon seems to be on another last and a formal interview shoes from what I can see. What do you think?

 

Do you have any recommendations I can possibly try within the AE brand? As stated earlier, I'm thinking about the Vernon, but wasn't sure if that would pass as formal shoes.

 

While the Vernons may not meet the exact definition of a formal interview shoe, to me they do make for fantastic dress shoe. With the exception of the small stitched area around the eye stays, they are close to a whole-cut. Though there is some perfing, it doesn't go overboard, unlike my socks:

 

 

 

 

I'm exceptionally pleased with mine. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif


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While the Vernons may not meet the exact definition of a formal interview shoe, to me they do make for fantastic dress shoe. With the exception of the small stitched area around the eye stays, they are close to a whole-cut. Though there is some broguing, it doesn't go overboard, unlike my socks:

I'm exceptionally pleased with mine. icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif

 

It's too early for me to think about being behind a desk, but those shoes look nice.

 

I guess frogwash could also consider the Harrisons, but I don't know how that last would work for him.

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So guys. Are my Strands way too tight or am I worrying over nothing? They feel comfortable like this, but tightening them much more would probably cause them to be a bit uncomfortable.

 

 

 

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This took time to be approved so many probably missed my post. Anyone?

 

Those are Strand in 11D. My 11D McTavish fit perfectly btw.

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This took time to be approved so many probably missed my post. Anyone?

 

Those are Strand in 11D. My 11D McTavish fit perfectly btw.

 

If they're brand new, they'll probably break in a bit and the gap will probably be cut in half (at least in my experience). I don't think they look bad as is, especially if they're comfortable, and I don't think you have enough space to go wider. I think the next width might close the gap while still leaving you space. You could try on an E, but I think those look fine as is!

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This took time to be approved so many probably missed my post. Anyone?

 

Those are Strand in 11D. My 11D McTavish fit perfectly btw.

Though they are both on the same last, comparing the fit of the McTavish to any of the calf shoes doesn't work. The McTavish is made from a tougher leather than the Stand (or any calf), so it doesn't fit as tightly around the last. They typically run a half-size bigger than the calf equivalent. I would try an 11.5D. For me, I typically take a 9.5E in the 5-last, but for the McTavish, I went down to a 9E.

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Chromexcel Bayfield today.

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HI, I've done a search on Google and in this forum and I haven't found a relevant post regarding the comparative fit of the AE Jefferson. I've got a a couple of pairs (Fairfax and 5th Avenue) on the #5 Last and they fit me great in a 9D, however I've had to return a couple of 9D on the same Last over the years. The Strand was too narrow and the Kenilworth was just too big overall.

I am thinking of getting the Jefferson in dark brown however I don't have access to a store that carries the particular style. I am hoping some of the forum members who have the Jefferson can comment on the fit in comparison to either the Strand, 5th Ave or Fairfax. Thanks in advance.

I do not have the Fairfax or Kenilworth but have a lot of other 5 lasted shoes including the Jefferson in dark brown. I do recall reading that the Fairfax and Kenilworth fit a bit differently.

Looks like the Kenilworth fits half a size larger than other 5 lasted shoes. http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?115067-Allen-Edmonds-Last-number-5-Park-Avenue-(and-others)-vs-Kenilworth And the Fairfax is a bit shorter and wider than other 5 lasted shoes. http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?111114-Sizing-down-to-fit-into-the-Allen-Edmonds-5-last

 

Most 5 lasted shoes fit me perfectly in TTS, I own the Shell Cambridge, Shell PA, Shell Strand, McAllister, McTavish, Black Hills, Elgin, Strawfut, Brooks 7 and Jefferson. The shell shoes fit just slightly larger than calf but not enough to size down, I'd say .025 size difference not a full half size larger. The Jefferson is somewhat in between, just a little more room than the calf but not as large as the shell. The difference is very slight but the leather is soft and has a little give to it is what I think is the reason. Certainly worth a try IMO and it is a great shoe. Good luck.

 

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Though they are both on the same last, comparing the fit of the McTavish to any of the calf shoes doesn't work. The McTavish is made from a tougher leather than the Stand (or any calf), so it doesn't fit as tightly around the last. They typically run a half-size bigger than the calf equivalent. I would try an 11.5D. For me, I typically take a 9.5E in the 5-last, but for the McTavish, I went down to a 9E.

Same here. For all 3 of my rough collection shoes I went down to a 9.5D from a 10D and they fit perfectly.

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