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For those of you using warm wool socks with boots in colder climates...do you use foot powder?  I don't have particularly stinky feet but after 12-18 hours of more or less constant wear/walking then my feet will get damp enough to necessitate a sock change.  It's not a terrible smell once the old socks come off but it's certainly a bit unpleasant.  I used to do it on long marches in my issued boots (desert) but was wondering if the material in foot powder would damage the interior of my nicer boots (Krause, 744, and some old Red Wings). 

 

Just wondering what you guys do.

 

~Johnny

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Originally Posted by GentlemanJohnny View Post

For those of you using warm wool socks with boots in colder climates...do you use foot powder?  I don't have particularly stinky feet but after 12-18 hours of more or less constant wear/walking then my feet will get damp enough to necessitate a sock change.  It's not a terrible smell once the old socks come off but it's certainly a bit unpleasant.  I used to do it on long marches in my issued boots (desert) but was wondering if the material in foot powder would damage the interior of my nicer boots (Krause, 744, and some old Red Wings). 

 

Just wondering what you guys do.

 

~Johnny

I would just use foot powder. I don't see how it can damage the insides of your shoes. If you are still worried about it, try the non-medicated kind, like baby power or talcum powder. All they do is absorb moisture and aid with the smell.

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I recently thrifted my first pair of horsey shoes! I'm not sure exactly what model they are, but they look like the Walden in shell cordovan.

 

First of all, I have to say, they're ridiculously light-weight and the leather is extremely supple and smooth. It makes me wonder why I've spent so much money buying calf this entire time. That aside, I'm concerned about how to care for the uppers. Would using something like Lexol Leather Cleaner and Conditioner be okay for shell cordovan?

 

I've been Googling this for a while now and it's been recommended not to use creams on shell cordovan but instead to use wax paste. A few recommend just brushing the shell cordovan and then buffing it for a shine. Other recommendations say just sticking with Saphir Renovateur; Horween recommends using Venetian shoe cream and some recommend using Alden or AE cordovan wax/creams.

 

So how should I go about doing this? These shoes could very well be over 20 years old and I would love to make them last another 20! The only products I have access to (in my area) currently are Lexol cleaner/conditioner and Kiwi/Meltonian waxes. 

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It makes me wonder why I've spent so much money buying calf this entire time.

I hear that. Picked up my first pair of shell shoes last June and I don't plan on buying calf again unless my black Park Avenues wear out. The initial outlay is painful, but the reward is so much better.
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That aside, I'm concerned about how to care for the uppers.

What indicators do you see that the uppers need attention? Shell tends to have sufficient oil in it from the start (you noted how supple and smooth it is).

I've heard good things about Alden's Leather Defender for keeping welts from appearing after rain storms, and I've got a quart tin of Venetian Shoe Cream (that source has a great price) that I'd use if I thought it was necessary, but I usually just grab an ancient t-shirt and buff for a while.
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Originally Posted by sungmineyo View Post

From recent 2 discontinued factory 2nd for $250 sale, I scored 1st quality townley cordovan as part of 2 for $250.
It was mainly due to mistake on list they sent me so they decided to obligate my order.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif .

grrr. it was on the list they sent me too,but they didn't take the order...
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I've heard horror stories of people buying vintage shell shoes from thrift stores or eBay and having them crack because of a lack of care for however many years. Even though I can't see any cracks or major scratches in the uppers, I don't want that to happen. So having just bought these, I'm not sure if I should go ahead and condition them with Lexol or simply brush/buff them in order to have the shell secrete the vegetable tanning oils.

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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

I recently thrifted my first pair of horsey shoes! I'm not sure exactly what model they are, but they look like the Walden in shell cordovan.

First of all, I have to say, they're ridiculously light-weight and the leather is extremely supple and smooth. It makes me wonder why I've spent so much money buying calf this entire time. That aside, I'm concerned about how to care for the uppers. Would using something like Lexol Leather Cleaner and Conditioner be okay for shell cordovan?

I've been Googling this for a while now and it's been recommended not to use creams on shell cordovan but instead to use wax paste. A few recommend just brushing the shell cordovan and then buffing it for a shine. Other recommendations say just sticking with Saphir Renovateur; Horween recommends using Venetian shoe cream and some recommend using Alden or AE cordovan wax/creams.

So how should I go about doing this? These shoes could very well be over 20 years old and I would love to make them last another 20! The only products I have access to (in my area) currently are Lexol cleaner/conditioner and Kiwi/Meltonian waxes. 

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I hear that. Picked up my first pair of shell shoes last June and I don't plan on buying calf again unless my black Park Avenues wear out. The initial outlay is painful, but the reward is so much better.
What indicators do you see that the uppers need attention? Shell tends to have sufficient oil in it from the start (you noted how supple and smooth it is).

I've heard good things about Alden's Leather Defender for keeping welts from appearing after rain storms, and I've got a quart tin of Venetian Shoe Cream (that source has a great price) that I'd use if I thought it was necessary, but I usually just grab an ancient t-shirt and buff for a while.


I think your safest best is to pick up either some Saphir Renovateur or the Venetian Shoe Cream and a horsehair brush. First, clean them with a damp, soft cloth. Then after drying, apply a tiny amount of either cream - you will see how the dry leather, if any, gets a little moisture into it. And I mean use these sparingly - just enough for a very thin layer. Then buff off with a cloth and then brush until your arms fall off.

Then over a few days, just brush, brush, brush - no more cream until you see how they come out. This will give you a good idea of what condition they are in. But I am betting you will see results just from one of the two creams.

I would not polish, if you plan to eventually, out of the box. See how this conditioning goes first.
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Originally Posted by PoundSand View Post

grrr. it was on the list they sent me too,but they didn't take the order...
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

I hope you realize the magnitude of the discount you got on those shells.  Short of stealing them, you'll never get another pair for a cheaper price. 

Well I guess so. I got tiny discount for my 1st quality shell Leeds that I ordered week ago and I still thought it was good deal.
But $125 for pair of shell, I feel like bandit.

PoundSand, I ordered them right after they started sale and they charged my cc before they notify me shoe wasn't part of sale so I was just lucky this time.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by GentlemanJohnny View Post

For those of you using warm wool socks with boots in colder climates...do you use foot powder?  I don't have particularly stinky feet but after 12-18 hours of more or less constant wear/walking then my feet will get damp enough to necessitate a sock change.  It's not a terrible smell once the old socks come off but it's certainly a bit unpleasant.  I used to do it on long marches in my issued boots (desert) but was wondering if the material in foot powder would damage the interior of my nicer boots (Krause, 744, and some old Red Wings). 

 

Just wondering what you guys do.

 

~Johnny

Great selection of boots Johnny!

 

I haven't used powder in years, but use wicking socks if I know I am going to do extended walking, hunting, or hiking. Or when I wear my 744's in warmer weather. I've tried most all the wicking socks, REI, Cabelas, patty freaking gucci (although love R4 base layers), those green poly pro GI ones they used to give us, etc. Nothing has even come close for me as the smartwool sock liners.

 

http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/product_Smartwool-Hiking-Liner-Crew-Sock_10032776_10208_10000001_-1_

 

 

37 reviews and a solid 5 moose, so I'm not the only one that thinks so. I'd try a pair and see what you think, pretty sure your feet will stay dry and happy. Good luck.

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Well I guess so. I got tiny discount for my 1st quality shell Leeds that I ordered week ago and I still thought it was good deal.
But $125 for pair of shell, I feel like bandit.

PoundSand, I ordered them right after they started sale and they charged my cc before they notify me shoe wasn't part of sale so I was just lucky this time.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

OMG $125, that would most probably cause me to buy whatever I could get my hands on. Lucky you!

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Regarding the Alden's Leather Defender...do you know if there's silicon in it?  I know it specifically mentions that it's good for shell but I've only ever heard bad things on here regarding spray-on solutions.

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Picked up a pair of Dark Brown Burnished Strand, first pair of AE shoes. My wife hated the walnut color, so went with the dark brown.

 

Had Topy put on them, which I know is frowned upon by some, but where I live, it is a must.

 

I'm already thinking Cordovan Park Avenue in black for my next pair... 

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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post

I haven't a clue how you guys find shoes like this at thrift stores.  The shoes I see always look like they were first mauled by tigers and stink to high heaven!

I found a pair of Alden cordovan brown bluchers in amazing condition and with a recently resoled heel at a Goodwill two or so years ago. $4.00.
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Originally Posted by GentlemanJohnny View Post

Regarding the Alden's Leather Defender...do you know if there's silicon in it?  I know it specifically mentions that it's good for shell but I've only ever heard bad things on here regarding spray-on solutions.

Don't spray it directly on your shoes. Spray it on a soft cloth, and apply the cloth to the shoe. Even the bottle recommends not spraying it directly on the shoe.
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