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post #1 of 15
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Ive grown immune to most of the derangements of New Yorkers, but the dog-thing still has me shaking my head on a daily basis.

On weekend afternoons every third person on the street has a dog in tow. The lap-dogs I can understand, even if I think they're ridiculous animals, but many people seem to favor large and intelligent breeds. Do these people not realize that a Doberman requires more exercise than 2 pslow walks per day, or do they just not care?

The behavior of dog owners is another issue. Letting your dog piss on pavement is standard. The shit-stain left on the sidewalk by a sticky dog turd, that's common too, and you also have to be vigilant not to step on the nugget that never got picked up at all. People will bring their dog into any kind of store at all, and immediately go on the defensive when they're told it's not okay by the staff. Last week a lady in front of me in the post office line tried to tell the clerk that this particular shit-mongrel was a "working dog," and earned the sympathy of the other customers in the process.

The saddest thing is the single, 30-something woman with a pet dog. These ladies are well represented in my neighborhood, and treat their dogs like the kid they'll never have.

NYers need to stop wasting their energy on these silly animals and start popping out some kids.
post #2 of 15
Some neighborhoods in my city are absolutely, completely infested with dogs. Every other person at any given time of day is walking a dog.
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
The lap-dogs I can understand, even if I think they're ridiculous animals, but many people seem to favor large and intelligent breeds.

I always thought that smaller dogs ( like lap dogs ) are generally smarter than large breeds. Where is JLibourel or Lefty when you need them?

I'm not remotely as knowledgeable of the French as Etienne, GDL, or RJman but in my few trips to Paris I was really surprised to see dogs at most restaurants and even in hospitals. No comparison to dog love in NYC and Paris.
post #4 of 15
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I always thought that smaller dogs ( like lap dogs ) are generally smarter than large breeds. Where is JLibourel or Lefty when you need them?

I had never heard this. Small dogs were mostly bred to look cute or sit around and not move much (true lap dogs). They are dumb and don't require much physical or mental stimulation. The few small breeds which weren't lap dogs were terriers, and they were bred to just follow scent or flashes of fur and dig out small rodents.

Larger dogs were often working or herding dogs, and had to be smart enough to make judgments and decisions on their own. The dogs that make some horrible apartment dogs are the smartest, and also most high energy dogs. They need mental and physical stimulation. German Shepherds, Border Collie, Shetland Sheepdogs, Belgian Malinois, etc.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by crazyquik View Post
I had never heard this. Small dogs were mostly bred to look cute or sit around and not move much (true lap dogs). They are dumb and don't require much physical or mental stimulation. The few small breeds which weren't lap dogs were terriers, and they were bred to just follow scent or flashes of fur and dig out small rodents.

Larger dogs were often working or herding dogs, and had to be smart enough to make judgments and decisions on their own. The dogs that make some horrible apartment dogs are the smartest, and also most high energy dogs. They need mental and physical stimulation. German Shepherds, Border Collie, Shetland Sheepdogs, Belgian Malinois, etc.

Interesting that all the dogs you cite are herding dogs. A lot of the time when these breeds are not purpose-bred from working stock, the intelligence goes very quickly and all you're left with is the "hyperness." Every GSD I've been in an obedience class with has left me very underwhelmed, my Tosas way outclassed them in the obedience department.

Standard Poodles are usually rated very high in the intelligence department. Some "primitive" dogs are very good at figuring things out. Someone in "Lefty's Random Dog Thread" was recently saying how a Basenji he knew was diabolically clever. I'm not sure there is a direct correlation between size and intelligence. My family always felt the smartest dog they had was a Rat Terrier. A lot of the giant breed dogs seem somewhat slow-witted.

You've got to remember, when speaking of dogs in the city, that they are great social lubricators. It's kind of a conundrum. If you are single, having a dog will get you a lot more dates. Downside: It's a lot harder to keep a dog when you're single. Even aside from amorous concerns, they're a great way to make friends. My wife and I have become great friends with a delightful woman who lives up the street only because she and I would encounter each other while we were walking our respective dogs.
post #6 of 15
I don't think the largest breeds would be all that smart, most of them were bred for the purposes of guarding correct?
post #7 of 15
Dogs in the city are the reason why I no longer want to live in New York. I love everything that the city has to offer but I can't get over the fact that whenever I have to walk somewhere I have to keep my eyes peeled for dog terds, smeared shit on the sidewalk, pools of piss, and not to mention the stench of animal waste.
post #8 of 15
This sounds disgusting. I can't imagine keeping a dog in the city, but dealing with the mess left by someone else's dog sounds even worse.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
I love everything that the city has to offer but I can't get over the fact that whenever I have to walk somewhere I have to keep my eyes peeled for people terds, smeared shit on the sidewalk, pools of piss, and not to mention the stench of human waste.

Sounds like a stroll after the bars let out in the East Village.

Dogs make the city livable. You want clean streets? Try Singapore.

lefty
post #10 of 15
Upper east side actually.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
Dogs in the city are the reason why I no longer want to live in New York. I love everything that the city has to offer but I can't get over the fact that whenever I have to walk somewhere I have to keep my eyes peeled for dog terds, smeared shit on the sidewalk, pools of piss, and not to mention the stench of animal waste.

Did you leave NYC in 1977? I'm not a dog owner but, although I see a lot of dogs on the streets, I almost never ever see dog turds that have not been picked up. Been here 10 years and lived in several neighborhoods - honestly don't think I've seen more than 5 or 6 turds this entire time.

Anyone who thinks that NYC has a dog/dogpoo problem needs to visit European cities ASAP, e.g. Paris in particular. There, an infinitesimally small number of dog owners actually pick up their dog's turds, even though it's technically the law.
post #12 of 15
No, I still work and go to school there. I don't often see terds, but smeared shit that has been stepped in and tracked down the sidewalk is not uncommon. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and I could not imagine living in a city without my furry friend, but it's awful how selfish and irresponsible some dog owners can be. One of our "neighbors" openly allowed her dog to piss on our door (that's a different story for a different day). I think it would be fair to say that the offenses are limited to a small number of people.
post #13 of 15
Dogs are better than crying, screaming kids.

In fact, in downtown Seattle, nobody has kids, they have dogs.
post #14 of 15
I've always had a dog and can't imagine not having one. My current one often travels with me and therefore adds to the dog congestion on the sidewalks of NYC and elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post
Interesting that all the dogs you cite are herding dogs. A lot of the time when these breeds are not purpose-bred from working stock, the intelligence goes very quickly and all you're left with is the "hyperness."

Perhaps if their owners kept them mentally stimulated they wouldn't have this problem? Sort of like kids; if you keep them learning and stimulated while they are growing up, they will probably be smarter in school and better adults.
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