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Failing to prove competence.

post #1 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:42pm
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Nothing worse than submitting what you consider to be good and insightful, and then this one person... ONE PERSON !!, who is officially called your professor , decides to label your paper as an F.


What the ****?

I presented thoughtful and brilliant statements in my paper, and he even stated I did so. There were not any grammatical errors present, nor did he find anything wrong with my overall writing structure.
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post #2 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:45pm
Hmmm. Let's see here. Failed to provide historical perspective, specific arguments, objective references to support your arguments, insightful and meaningful conclusion. I grade this thread F-minus.
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post #3 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
Hmmm. Let's see here.

Failed to provide historical perspective, specific arguments, objective references to support your arguments, insightful and meaningful conclusion.

I grade this thread F-minus.

Are you grading my post as if you were grading a paper?
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post #4 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:48pm
In my experience, a grade of "F" is reserved only for egregious problems, like plagiarism, turning it in late, or COMPLETELY missing the purpose of the assignment and making few attempts to do it correctly. Either you are making this thread up, or you did something wrong. In EITHER case, you need to go to your professor's office hours to discuss it with him to see if you can do a re-write or explain your case in more detail. If you feel the paper is still better than that, even after meeting with him (and assuming he refuses to offer you alternatives or change your grade), you can officially request that his Department Head review the assignment. Finally, what was the assignment? Is this an English course? Is English your native language? I don't get the "competence" aspect or what you're talking about.
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post #5 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
In my experience, a grade of "F" is reserved only for egregious problems, like plagiarism, turning it in late, or COMPLETELY missing the purpose of the assignment and making few attempts to do it correctly. Either you are making this thread up, or you did something wrong. In EITHER case, you need to go to your professor's office hours to discuss it with him to see if you can do a re-write or explain your case in more detail.
Reasons for the grade were I did not present my argument good enough. I basically did not explain the people I was explaining. If that makes sense to you. It's a writing course and yes, english is my first language. The competence part is basically I proved I don't have the necessary skills to do well in that class, when I was sure I did.
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post #6 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by Modern Gatsby View Post
Are you grading my post as if you were grading a paper?

and you're wondering why you failed?
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post #7 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:52pm
One starred.
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post #8 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by oneeightyseven View Post
and you're wondering why you failed?

I noticed it after I made the reply... I kind of skimmed his post.
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post #9 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by Modern Gatsby View Post
Reasons for the grade were I did not present my argument good enough. I basically did not explain the people I was explaining. If that makes sense to you. It's a writing course and yes, english is my first language. The competence part is basically I proved I don't have the necessary skills to do well in that class, when I was sure I did.
Is this a graduate seminar or something? If not...How do you get an F on an undergrad writing course paper? Send me the paper and I will let you know what I think. I have a law degree from Princeton, I know how to write. BTW, "well enough" not "good enough."
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post #10 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by Modern Gatsby View Post
Reasons for the grade were I did not present my argument good enough. I basically did not explain the people I was explaining. If that makes sense to you. It's a writing course and yes, english is my first language. The competence part is basically I proved I don't have the necessary skills to do well in that class, when I was sure I did.
Well, then, as I said, you need to meet with your Prof during his office hours. Get a good, thorough explanation and ask him if there is a way you can revise the paper or make SOME sort of alternative assignment. Show him that you are concerned with your grade. It's possible he gave you that egregiously BAD score just to scare you into making an effort or coming to see him. Again, an "F" is not just 'you didn't do well.' F in a writing class is "you did something REALLY wrong and I want you to understand that." Profs love it when students visit their office hours. Again, if he refuses to budge and you stand by your paper, you CAN take it over his head. I'd avoid that, though, unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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post #11 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:56pm
post your paper and post his explanation of the assignment. I want to laugh.
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post #12 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Well, then, as I said, you need to meet with your Prof during his office hours. Get a good, thorough explanation and ask him if there is a way you can revise the paper or make SOME sort of alternative assignment. Show him that you are concerned with your grade. It's possible he gave you that egregiously BAD score just to scare you into making an effort or coming to see him.

Again, an "F" is not just 'you didn't do well.' F in a writing class is "you did something REALLY wrong and I want you to understand that."

Profs love it when students visit their office hours. Again, if he refuses to budge and you stand by your paper, you CAN take it over his head. I'd avoid that, though, unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.

I think this whole assignment was a scare. He said around 90% of the papers were bad. He believes we didn't put much effort into it because the grade didn't count. Thing is, I took the assignment serious and I believe I turned in a good paper.
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post #13 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Well, then, as I said, you need to meet with your Prof during his office hours. Get a good, thorough explanation and ask him if there is a way you can revise the paper or make SOME sort of alternative assignment. Show him that you are concerned with your grade. It's possible he gave you that egregiously BAD score just to scare you into making an effort or coming to see him. Again, an "F" is not just 'you didn't do well.' F in a writing class is "you did something REALLY wrong and I want you to understand that." Profs love it when students visit their office hours. Again, if he refuses to budge and you stand by your paper, you CAN take it over his head. I'd avoid that, though, unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary. To be honest, you strike me as one of those undergrads who had High School English Teachers who creamed their pants over your half-assed writing attempts and massaged your ego through graduation. Coming to college, you don't have the requisite academic writing skills, but think you are Gore Vidal.
Maybe he CAPITALIZED random words and the PROFESSOR failed him for that?
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post #14 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by Connemara View Post
Is this a graduate seminar or something? If not...How do you get an F on an undergrad writing course paper?

Send me the paper and I will let you know what I think. I have a law degree from Princeton, I know how to write.

BTW, "well enough" not "good enough."

Haha. Made me laugh.
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post #15 of 21
9/20/09 at 8:59pm
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Maybe he CAPITALIZED random words and the PROFESSOR failed him for that?
Hey, Cutty Sark is calling! You haven't quite done the requisite liver-destruction today that he recommends.
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Originally Posted by Modern Gatsby View Post
I think this whole assignment was a scare. He said around 90% of the papers were bad. He believes we didn't put much effort into it because the grade didn't count. Thing is, I took the assignment serious and I believe I turned in a good paper.
This makes sense, honestly. In that case, trust me, going to his office hours to show both your concern and your willingness to work hard in the class will make it all right as rain. Almost nobody goes to office hours; they just bitch and moan about their grades and then leave crappy evaluations. Just going to TALK to the professor helps a lot. p.s. Cunny has been to Princeton like I've got a dozen Mollusks in my bed.
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