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post #571 of 843
10/1/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by silvercitynyc View Post

I have a couple pairs of trousers from Boss. None have ever come apart (so they're durable) and they fit very well.

x2 (lined to the knee).

 

Would never buy their suiting, but the trousers are decent if bought on deep discount.

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post #572 of 843
10/4/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

x2 (lined to the knee).

 

Would never buy their suiting, but the trousers are decent if bought on deep discount.

Way better than Brooks Brothers at the exact same pricing tier. The fabrics are just nicer/softer, and the fit is a more "tailored" fit without being "too skinny" (i.e., perfect for the slightly fit to athletic type of body)

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post #573 of 843
10/4/12 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by JapanAlex01 View Post

I think it's time, to get this flowing again. Bold are ones I have added. I removed some from Fumma's post--like Thom Browne (shudder) and Lanvin. And, for ease of use, I've made it all alphabetical.
Excellent [*****] (IE: Suits made this well are far and few between; if money is no object, your closet would be full of these. This category should be kept to only a few items.)
- Brioni
- Cesare Attolini Napoli
- D'Avenza
- Isaia
- Kiton
- Luciano Barbera Collezioni Sartoriale
- Luigi Borrelli
- RLPL
- Sartoria Castangia
- Sartoria Partenopea
- St Andrew
Very Good[****] (IE: Few suits match the quality of the ones in this category.)
- Belvest
- Borrelli Luxury Vintage
- Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece
- Canali Milano
- Corneliani Linea Sartoria
- Pal Zileri Sartoriale (I think there is another line higher than Sartoriale: The custom made one--IIRC "Abito Privato"--has excellent quality)
- Ravazzolo
- Sartoria Attolini Napoli
- (Most of Raffaelle Caruso) Sartoria Parma / RL Black Label / RL Signature
- Zegna Couture
Good[***] (IE: Quality is superior to most suits.)
- Boglioli
- Brooks Brothers Black Fleece
- Canali
- Cantarelli Tailor
- Corneliani
- Ermenegildo Zegna
- Faconnable Tailleur
- Giorgio Armani (Black Label)
- Hickey Freeman Mainline
- K by Canali
- Paul Smith Mainline (fully canvassed)
- Samuelsohn
Satisfactory [**] (IE: The "average" brands. Quality is acceptable.)
- Brooks Brothers 1818 (half canvassed)
- Cantarelli
- Charles Tyrwhitt
- H. Freemann
- Hackett
- Hickey
- Hickey Freeman LTD (half canvassed)
- Marks and Spencer (any of their "Pure Wool" collection)
- Paul Smith London (half canvassed)
- Racing Green
- Suitsupply
- Z-Zegna
Mediocre[*] (Suits that are mediocre.)
- Etro
- Hugo Boss
- J. Press
- Joseph Abboud
- Marco Valentino (half canvassed)

Is Luigi Borrelli still top tier?
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post #574 of 843
10/4/12 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post


Is Luigi Borrelli still top tier?

I would put Hugo Boss in the "Satisfactory" tier.

Unless, we essentially are saying that to be in "Satisfactory" or above, you HAVE to be at LEAST half-canvassed....

 

If that's the case, then there are several brands currently in that category that need to get pushed lower.....anyone else agree that we should do this methodology? It seems to make sense to me.

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post #575 of 843
10/5/12 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by silvercitynyc View Post

I would put Hugo Boss in the "Satisfactory" tier.


Unless, we essentially are saying that to be in "Satisfactory" or above, you HAVE to be at LEAST half-canvassed....

If that's the case, then there are several brands currently in that category that need to get pushed lower.....anyone else agree that we should do this methodology? It seems to make sense to me.

No.

And you answer had nothing to do with my question.
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post #576 of 843
10/5/12 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post


No.
And you answer had nothing to do with my question.

I wasn't answering your question.

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post #577 of 843
10/5/12 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by silvercitynyc View Post

I wasn't answering your question.

I guess I was confused by you quoting my question then.

The HB debate has run long and hard on this forum. It is generally agreed that they are junk and should be avoided thus their ranking an mediocre. Some don't agree but the general consensus is that and it is not about to change unless HB starts doing something very different.
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post #578 of 843
10/6/12 at 10:37am
Hat about Camoshita, the Japanese brand? I've heard good takings about it, but couldn't find too much about it on SF.
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post #579 of 843
10/15/12 at 8:41am
I also don't see sartorio by kiton? Where would they fall?
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post #580 of 843
10/15/12 at 8:59am
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Edited by Patek - 10/15/12 at 9:12am
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post #581 of 843
10/15/12 at 9:04am
Etro shouldn't be so low on the list; they're half canvassed and made by Lardini. They're miles ahead of Boss.

Also, why was Lanvin removed? Their suits are partially hand made.
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post #582 of 843
10/15/12 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Etro shouldn't be so low on the list; they're half canvassed and made by Lardini. They're miles ahead of Boss.
Also, why was Lanvin removed? Their suits are partially hand made.

By Zegna if I'm not mistaken
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post #583 of 843
10/15/12 at 12:16pm
Also im not sure Isaia, Partenopea and D'avenza should be in the same league as Brioni, Kiton, and attolini. They are great suits but i just don't think they stack up against the others in the category. J press and Etro should be at least above Charles Trywitt
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post #584 of 843
10/15/12 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post

By Zegna if I'm not mistaken

Lanvin is made by Caruso (same Caruso tag as RLBL).
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post #585 of 843
10/15/12 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Lanvin is made by Caruso (same Caruso tag as RLBL).

I saw a tuxedo with a Zegna tag same as dunhill, Zegna, Tom Ford, Gucci. Maybe they are like Gucci and use diff makers?
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