The StyleForum Working Hierarchical Suit Quality List (SFWHSQL!) - Page 4

I'd be interested in seeing where Tom Ford ends up. His suits are made by Zegna Couture, so the quality must be extraordinary. But in terms of overall value, I'm not sure he's up there with Kiton and and Brioni.

I make RLPL. Do you have a problem with that?


Yes, but only Thai bespoke.


I'm going to have to go with Baroni above all, especially because of the non-opening keyhole lapel buttonhole, which I know that you support.


- B

The titles imply that value to price ratio should factor in somehow, but every inexpensive suit has ended up in the bottom rung no matter what kind of value it represents, and the brands that are very best in terms of construction but still don't necessarily represent a good value are all at the top. And in terms of pricing, are we talking retail or what SF members typically pay? Seems more useful to simply make a ranking based on quality of construction without taking price into consideration. I think that's what most of the posters have bee doing anyway.

Aside from that, even though I'm a relative noob, some of the rankings still don't really make sense to me. We have fully canvassed suits like RLBL and Paul Smith mainline on the same level with half-canvassed suits like Brooks Brothers 1818. I would say that Brooks Brothers 1818 is more akin to the lower Paul Smith London line, and that RLBL and Paul Smith mainline both have significantly better construction and materials. So do we bump RLBL and Paul Smith mainline up to the same level with Isaia or do we bump Brooks Brothers 1818 down to the level of Hugo Boss? Or is it that Isaia doesn't really belong on the same rung with Canali and Brooks Brothers Black Fleece but should be somewhere higher?

Or perhaps there are just too many incremental steps up in quality and too many subjective considerations to make this exercise practical.

The best made suit in the world has still not made an appearence.


- B

Saville Row's Paul Jheeta? I finally got around to looking him up a few weeks ago. Hands down the classiest website with the jazziest music of all Saville Row. Please add Joseph Abboud to the mediocre list. I sold an Abboud suit I never wore a bit ago, it's the quintessential mediocre suit, hell it might even nudge up on satisfactory (but not quite).

Close.


- B

Yes, better.


I seem to recall that Chester Barrie did them then maybe St. Andrew's today?

Am I right on this?

This seems more or less accurate on a quality make basis. I like to think of Zegna as a bit better or at least top of Good if only due to the fabrics. 15 MilMil 15 is a superb fabric that has held up nicely in terms of durable sportcoats for me.

Bijan makes the best suits. Period. Everybody else is a late-to-the-party fussy imitator. This thread can be locked

Invoking The Bijan always ends the thread.

- B

Yes, there is nothing more reliable to determine the best than a popular vote.


- B

Such tomfoolery did give us both Bush (well, in '04) and Barack. I would agree that it is inconclusive. Has Jos. A Banks or Men's Warehouse been placed on the leader board? I agree with MC (below). A "quality" list is what is important and informative.

1. I think price should be taken out of the equation. It's not about value for money, it's about overall quality... that way someone can compare two items on the list versus their stated price and roughly determine which is better value, whatever the price at that time might be...
2. I'd rule off putting bespoke on this list, it's too variable. OTR/RTW is where most people need this reference guide.


I mean sure, just look at what the elections have give us all these years