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post #1066 of 1318
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Originally Posted by MZhammer View Post
 


I think Sid Mashburn is made by Caruso, can anyone confirm?

Post a picture of the tag?  They are usually put there by the manufacturer. 

post #1067 of 1318
Here is the tag in my Sid Mashburn suit purchased in August of 2012.
post #1068 of 1318
Can't be bothered to read the whole thread again, this may have been discussed already, but I'm pretty sure J Press Ludlow are half canvassed not fused.
post #1069 of 1318
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Originally Posted by Ianiceman View Post

Can't be bothered to read the whole thread again, this may have been discussed already, but I'm pretty sure J Press Ludlow are half canvassed not fused.

 http://www.styleforum.net/t/168763/j-crew-suits-full-half-or-no-canvas/0_20

post #1070 of 1318
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Here is the tag in my Sid Mashburn suit purchased in August of 2012.

Does not appear to be Caruso made. Doesn't mean it's not nice...
post #1071 of 1318
I don't think it is Caruso either. Would love to know, though.
post #1072 of 1318
I don't believe it is. IIRC, they offer Caruso through their MTM offering, but their base RTW stuff is no longer Caruso. There have been several discussions on the forum about it over the last couple of years.
post #1073 of 1318

Hey everyone, I'm a bit new here and completely new to purchasing suits and tailored clothing, so I'll do my best to phrase my questions in a way that makes sense.

 

I'm a 22 year old soon-to-be college graduate living in New England, USA. I have an interview in early December that I've got to go to, and, as I'm sure you've guessed, I'm here to ask for advice on what style/brand suit I should purchase. My budget isn't too narrow (in my opinion, heh), and I wouldn't mind spending up to $1500 on the entire outfit- assuming I can keep using it for a long time. That's for the suit, the dress shirt, tie, belt, and pocket square if it's suggested. I've already got a pair of dress shoes I'm satisfied with in a merlot color. 

 

So, to get to the meat of it, how much would you recommend I spend? I'm not sure if $1500 is too much for me to spend on this, even if I do have the money. Since I'm here asking for advice, maybe I should save until I've learned more. But, more importantly, what suits can I buy in-person within driving distance? That means New York and Boston are both in range. I'm not willing to purchase a suit online for two reasons; the first, I've never worn a perfectly fitting suit and so I can't give accurate measurements, and the second is that it doesn't meet my timeframe. I need the suit and all alterations done by the first week in December, when I'll be driving down to the day-long interview process.

 

As far as my personal preference, it's a security job (police/FBI sort of gig), and I was thinking an English cut would be more appropriate. I'm military as well, so I really enjoy the crisp, tight fitting cuts. Not European slim, but something that's not boxy and drapey. Just from looking online, I love the way Paul Stuart suits are styled, if that's any help. I've heard the construction isn't exactly what it could be at that price point, but I think everyone seems to think they look great, which is fine with me.

 

In any case, thanks so much for reading this far. Dinerlli, I've read your blog cover to cover, but unfortunately I need something that I can buy in-store and have a sales rep to help fit it. Thanks!

post #1074 of 1318
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Originally Posted by Reiginko View Post

Hey everyone, I'm a bit new here and completely new to purchasing suits and tailored clothing, so I'll do my best to phrase my questions in a way that makes sense.

I'm a 22 year old soon-to-be college graduate living in New England, USA. I have an interview in early December that I've got to go to, and, as I'm sure you've guessed, I'm here to ask for advice on what style/brand suit I should purchase. My budget isn't too narrow (in my opinion, heh), and I wouldn't mind spending up to $1500 on the entire outfit- assuming I can keep using it for a long time. That's for the suit, the dress shirt, tie, belt, and pocket square if it's suggested. I've already got a pair of dress shoes I'm satisfied with in a merlot color. 

So, to get to the meat of it, how much would you recommend I spend? I'm not sure if $1500 is too much for me to spend on this, even if I do have the money. Since I'm here asking for advice, maybe I should save until I've learned more. But, more importantly, what suits can I buy in-person within driving distance? That means New York and Boston are both in range. I'm not willing to purchase a suit online for two reasons; the first, I've never worn a perfectly fitting suit and so I can't give accurate measurements, and the second is that it doesn't meet my timeframe. I need the suit and all alterations done by the first week in December, when I'll be driving down to the day-long interview process.

As far as my personal preference, it's a security job (police/FBI sort of gig), and I was thinking an English cut would be more appropriate. I'm military as well, so I really enjoy the crisp, tight fitting cuts. Not European slim, but something that's not boxy and drapey. Just from looking online, I love the way Paul Stuart suits are styled, if that's any help. I've heard the construction isn't exactly what it could be at that price point, but I think everyone seems to think they look great, which is fine with me.

In any case, thanks so much for reading this far. Dinerlli, I've read your blog cover to cover, but unfortunately I need something that I can buy in-store and have a sales rep to help fit it. Thanks!

On one hand I want to recommend Paul Stuart. However, for a very first suit I'm hesitant to suggest you spend $1,500. What about Brooks Brothers?
post #1075 of 1318
Agreed. Your tastes and probably body size will change. I'd stick with something at a lower price point.
post #1076 of 1318

^^ The following links should help you:

 

For a budget of ~$500 and under:

http://putthison.com/post/64871524857/where-to-look-first-for-a-suit-part-one-far-and

 

For a budget between ~$1,000 and ~$2,500:

http://putthison.com/post/64961612293/where-to-look-first-for-a-suit-part-two-finding

post #1077 of 1318
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On one hand I want to recommend Paul Stuart. However, for a very first suit I'm hesitant to suggest you spend $1,500. What about Brooks Brothers?

 



not sure if you will run into paul stuart sale before december. i saw a few in july on sale for $700 plus tax and tailor. i think that type of sale goes on about twice a year...

i also think brooks brothers milano fit is actually quite good. definitely a lot slimmer than their more traditional fits. they seem to be always on sale with 25% off.
post #1078 of 1318

Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it.

 

If Paul Stuart is having a sale, will it be listed on their website? I'd be alright with waiting another week or two to pull the trigger, but I've got a feeling they'll be saving the sales for after Christmas. I'll try on the Milano Brooks Brothers suits for sure, but from what I can tell right now the prices aren't really too far apart: $998 for a Milano 1818 suit from Brooks Brothers, half-canvassed, or $1284 for the Paul Stuart standard wool suit, fully canvassed. Are there noteworthy construction differences between the two? I know the PS is fully canvassed, but I'm really not sure how valuable that is to me. Will one be more expensive to tailor? Is one made of a superior material?

 

Brooks Brothers: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Milano-Fit-Solid-1818-Suit/MK00224,default,pd.html?dwvar_MK00224_Color=NAVY&contentpos=38&cgid=0216

Paul Stuart: http://www.paulstuart.com/product_info.cfm?ProdID=7266&ProdCatId=1007&MainCatId=14&HEADERMENUID=1&SUBPRODCATID=0

 

Still go for the Milano? You've all got more experience than I do. And thanks again, I'd be lost without this place.

 

EDIT: Also, and if this isn't the correct place for this question to be asked I apologize, but am I correct in assuming that at my price point I should be alright with most any dress shirt as long as I get it taken in to fit me properly?

post #1079 of 1318
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Originally Posted by Reiginko View Post
 

Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it.

 

If Paul Stuart is having a sale, will it be listed on their website? I'd be alright with waiting another week or two to pull the trigger, but I've got a feeling they'll be saving the sales for after Christmas. I'll try on the Milano Brooks Brothers suits for sure, but from what I can tell right now the prices aren't really too far apart: $998 for a Milano 1818 suit from Brooks Brothers, half-canvassed, or $1284 for the Paul Stuart standard wool suit, fully canvassed. Are there noteworthy construction differences between the two? I know the PS is fully canvassed, but I'm really not sure how valuable that is to me. Will one be more expensive to tailor? Is one made of a superior material?

 

Brooks Brothers: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Milano-Fit-Solid-1818-Suit/MK00224,default,pd.html?dwvar_MK00224_Color=NAVY&contentpos=38&cgid=0216

Paul Stuart: http://www.paulstuart.com/product_info.cfm?ProdID=7266&ProdCatId=1007&MainCatId=14&HEADERMENUID=1&SUBPRODCATID=0

 

Still go for the Milano? You've all got more experience than I do. And thanks again, I'd be lost without this place.

 

EDIT: Also, and if this isn't the correct place for this question to be asked I apologize, but am I correct in assuming that at my price point I should be alright with most any dress shirt as long as I get it taken in to fit me properly?


i think your question deserves perhaps a thread of its own.  try search "first suit" on the forum and you may just get your answer. 

 

the $998 price tag for milano is a bit steep - there are often 25%/FF sales going on and i think you can probably pull one off for about $700 regularly - basic tailor is free at the BB store.

 

i actually prefer the milano slimmer cut to paul stuart's.  i thought the quality and construction for paul stuart is superb but the style is just meh. i wouldn't spend $1200 for one, but at $700, probably. i really couldn't tell any significant difference between the canvassing.

 

you might have looked into it already, you can always try suitsupply. good dollar to quality ratio. decent construction with average fabric and a modern cut.  you can also wander around saks - they occasionally have some canali/zegna on sale for under $1000.

 

in general - i don't agree with getting a cheap suit as your first suit because that cheap first suit will be a complete waste of your money.  you won't get any killer deals at this stage of your life (you don't REALLY know what fits you yet), but you should always get the best suit you can get/afford.

post #1080 of 1318
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Originally Posted by Reiginko View Post
 

Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it.

 

If Paul Stuart is having a sale, will it be listed on their website? I'd be alright with waiting another week or two to pull the trigger, but I've got a feeling they'll be saving the sales for after Christmas. I'll try on the Milano Brooks Brothers suits for sure, but from what I can tell right now the prices aren't really too far apart: $998 for a Milano 1818 suit from Brooks Brothers, half-canvassed, or $1284 for the Paul Stuart standard wool suit, fully canvassed. Are there noteworthy construction differences between the two? I know the PS is fully canvassed, but I'm really not sure how valuable that is to me. Will one be more expensive to tailor? Is one made of a superior material?

 

Brooks Brothers: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Milano-Fit-Solid-1818-Suit/MK00224,default,pd.html?dwvar_MK00224_Color=NAVY&contentpos=38&cgid=0216

Paul Stuart: http://www.paulstuart.com/product_info.cfm?ProdID=7266&ProdCatId=1007&MainCatId=14&HEADERMENUID=1&SUBPRODCATID=0

 

Still go for the Milano? You've all got more experience than I do. And thanks again, I'd be lost without this place.

 

EDIT: Also, and if this isn't the correct place for this question to be asked I apologize, but am I correct in assuming that at my price point I should be alright with most any dress shirt as long as I get it taken in to fit me properly?


also, always go with a friend that knows a thing or two about the fit (and you).  sales reps will rarely tell you when the suit fits poorly (because they want to sell you a suit, and upsell you whenever they can).  they'll always tell you that you look fantastic and with some tailoring you are ready to be the director of FBI.

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