Is Law School right for me? - Page 4

Yes, because everybody who goes to shitlaw and gains a couple years of experience can just lateral over to NYCBIGLAW???? You think nobody is going to care where you went to school? Seriously?

you silly little smalltimer.

Oh and the reality is that just like with any other elite industry, firms will simply not hire out of crappy schools 90% of the time. Yes, they will interview and lead some people along, but in general, the non-target schools just get cut the fuck out 8 out of every 10 years or so.

I would consider Law School just so I can have an excuse to use a monogrammed Louis Vuitton hard briefcase. I have my outfit all picked out--suit with tight bootcut dress trousers, Cuban heeled boots and a Stetson Open Road with a pimptastic custom monogrammed Louis Vuitton briefcase.

You didn't read my post fuckwit. I said: " You don't need to go to a "T14" school to have a top-level legal career." Nothing about NYCBIGLAW. Some people don't want that and yet have excellent careers.

FWIW I know people from non-T14 schools who work for NYBIGLAW (partners), so it is absolutely possible. So you fail again.

My comment about school and class rank are the truth, sorry to tell you. I have never heard a practicing attorney say otherwise except you. Do you think a firm would choose a Harvard grad with no clients over a non-T14 grad with a $1m book of business? Money talks.

why would you want to work outside of NYBIGLAW?

Excellent.

Absolutely. As an engineer, I can duz teh Mathz. Tell me if you think the Law School admissions process really adds up....

good question, it must be an empty existence lol

a master of rhetoric.

You are so not NYCBIGLAW material.

Actually, it's incredible how predictably law school admissions add up. Check out Lawschoolnumbers.com. I applied to 14 schools and accurately predicted every outcome. The formula really is 1/2 LSAT, 1/2 GPA for the vast majority of students. There are some schools the lean one direction of the other (Berkeley takes lower LSATs but higher GPAs, Chicago the opposite). As far as soft factors, diversity makes a difference, but that's about it. Now, whether law school admissions accurately measures one's ability to do well in either law school or practice is an entirely different matter.

You need good grades to get into the Top 14. If not, even if you blow the doors off the LSAT, you will end up at someplace just below.

He said he's interested in law school, not a Ph.D. in mathamatics (sp? - Fuck it, I didn't major in English, either).

You're either both wrong, or both right, or both of the foregoing. Characterize it how you will.

Of course where you went to school and what grades you got don't set your career path in stone. People certainly succeed -- however one chooses to define "success" -- despite academic backgrounds that don't fit the typical BigLaw template.
That said, where you went to school (and to a lesser extent, how well you did) is an important factor, not just in landing your first job but throughout your career. Having graduated from a less-highly-regarded school doesn't foreclose you from most career paths, but it makes many of them much, much harder. Many people will consider where you went to school a significant factor in evaluating your fitness for various positions, even relatively senior positions well into your career.

Sure, if you're a proven business generator that will count for a lot. But that depends in part on the type of business, etc. (it also assumes that -- despite whatever hurdles your academic background may or may not throw in your path -- you're able to develop that book.) And to answer your literal question, I honestly believe that, for a junior or mid-level associate position, there are many firms out there that would hire a Harvard grad with no book over someone from a "lesser" school with $1M in business. (And if you're talking partnership, I don't think $1M in business is going to get it done at some big firms.)

1. Yup, this isn't something they teach you in school or tell you in career counseling, but in many industries and professions it is very important. I have friends who are relatively far in their careers, but have to work twice as hard as those who come from the right schools. Absolutely no bullshit here. It becomes relevant on every level, with every career evaluation. Same goes for experience - sorry, if you pay your dues at some company no one's ever heard of, don't expect to have it count for much, especially if you want to go to a respectable company - and once again, this applies across many industries. You are not getting into Goldman from Mom and Pop Community Bank, and you are not getting into Cravath from Poopsky, Shitkovsky, and Associates. 2. A mil is not what it used to be, from what I hear, it's almost twice that just to pass the hurdle to be considered for a non-equity partner at the big boys...