JONES in 30 arrived yesterday and they are sweet. My other pair is THIN in 29. I sized up one because the THIN are definitely skinny, rock star style and I wanted something slightly more "normal" in the fit and cut. They aren't significantly different in the top block as far as I can tell, but the leg is definitely more of a striaight cut as opposed to a tight taper. I haven't taken any measurements, but if anyone is curious just ask!