Raleigh Denim makes some great jeans. They've really improved and expanded over the last few years as well. I own a pair of Original Raw Thin's and they're great jeans. I have a rather small waist (27 3/4 inches) and I purchased a size 28. They fit rather snug upon initial purchase, and I'd estimate they've stretched about 1/2-1" in the 4 months I've had them. I'd say the waist measure around 29" inches now. My only complaint with the jeans is that I wear a belt and since they've stretched a bit, in the back my belt has caused the fabric to slightly overlap in the waistband to fit my waist better. I always wear a belt so its really only noticable for me. I wear them probably 4-5 times a week, and they have retained their dark indigo color very well. No signs of stress in the crotch, or lose stitches. They're definitely worth spending the $285 on. And if you live around Raleigh take the trip to their store/factory. The guys there are really great!