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Leica X1

post #1 of 85
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No 4/3 camera, but this looks cool. I wish there was a Leica version of the GF1.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp
post #2 of 85
I'd rather have a GF1, great lens comes with it, but you can swap it out for something else if you need it too.
post #3 of 85
It looks insanely awesome.
post #4 of 85
My dad is getting one.
post #5 of 85
The specs look brilliant, the pocket digital everyone has been waiting for, but $2k? I'll wait to see how M8 prices fare after the M9 is in full release - if they drop to the $2500-3k range, I'll be interested.
post #6 of 85
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Originally Posted by milosz View Post
The specs look brilliant, the pocket digital everyone has been waiting for, but $2k? I'll wait to see how M8 prices fare after the M9 is in full release - if they drop to the $2500-3k range, I'll be interested.

M8's are 2k on eBay
post #7 of 85
I thought the X1 was really impressive. I wonder who did the electronics design for them since it seems like this is a 100% new design. It was what the Sigma DP1 and the Ricoh GR III really should have been, so it's an exciting little device. I'm guessing the sensor is a Samsung? 1.5 crop and Live View (since it behaves like a P&S if necessary).

I've noticed there's quite a bit of misunderstanding with the spec, it's not a true 24mm FOV, it's a 24mm lens mounted on a 1.5x sensor, so it has an FOV of 35mm.
post #8 of 85
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I thought the X1 was really impressive. I wonder who did the electronics design for them since it seems like this is a 100% new design. It was what the Sigma DP1 and the Ricoh GR III really should have been, so it's an exciting little device. I'm guessing the sensor is a Samsung? 1.5 crop and Live View (since it behaves like a P&S if necessary).

I've noticed there's quite a bit of misunderstanding with the spec, it's not a true 24mm FOV, it's a 24mm lens mounted on a 1.5x sensor, so it has an FOV of 35mm.

What's the crop on the GF1's 20mm pancake, or for that matter, the pancake on the EP-1? Is it 1.5x too?
post #9 of 85
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What's the crop on the GF1's 20mm pancake, or for that matter, the pancake on the EP-1? Is it 1.5x too?

Crop is 2x

Your FOV on the X1 should be identical to the E-P1's 17mm (=34mm)

The 20mm will be quite tight (=40mm), some people like that some people don't. I personally prefer FOV's 24-35.
post #10 of 85
Did anyone read the Leica factory tour at DPreview.com? It's really impressive.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicafactory2009/
post #11 of 85
I hate Leica.
post #12 of 85
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I hate Leica.

Is there a reason? I would think it's opulence and price tag would make you swoon, are you more of an Alpa guy?
post #13 of 85
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Crop is 2x

Your FOV on the X1 should be identical to the E-P1's 17mm (=34mm)

The 20mm will be quite tight (=40mm), some people like that some people don't. I personally prefer FOV's 24-35.


I want to start shooting only with one lens, a wide angle. I've used the zoom on my G9 exactly twice in two years.

I'm thinking the pancake for the Lumix GH1, while fast, isn't wide enough. I need to pay with EP-1 and the GH1, stat.

I am sold on the X1, site unseen.
post #14 of 85
Panasonic has a 14mm(=28mm equiv) 2.8 pancake on the roadmap, I forget for when. You may want that lens instead of the 20mm or the 17mm. The GH1 is cool and the EVF on that is very nice. I too, pine for the X1. It's pricey at 2k but not absurdly so. (I can't believe I'm saying this). A good, mid-range DSLR body, say a Pentax K7 or Canon 50D will set you back around 1k, just over 1k. If the 24mm is truly a Leica standard lens, it should be on par with Pentax limited lenses or Canon L lenses at about 500 to 1k. Obviously you lose certain features with the X1, proper viewfinder for one, but for such a small package and really, a very niche product, it's a pretty reasonable price. The M8 and M9 however make baby Jesus cry.
post #15 of 85
If I sold all my other cameras and lenses, I could pay cash for an M9. Unfortunately, the photography that brings in (minimal) income (architectural) for me requires the D700.

I'd like to amend my "win the lottery" post - it would be me, a Macbook Pro, a high-end Land Rover or similar and M9.
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